Still think Trump is stupid and not a great danger?

[Gamma]

It didn't hurt Bill did it? Why should it hurt her? Benghazi and Iraq might be stumbling blocks ... Trump has a shitload of dirt be he doesn't care ...

[Mosiah]

I don't expect them to isolate Bill, but how do you compare a womanizer, especially one who didn't have to work very hard at it, to a man who is on his 3rd marriage and who has plain insulted women throughout his life?!?

[Rockman]

Trump is a sleazy citizen,Hillary is a sleazy public official.
I suspect something if a compromise will be made behind closed doors,other than that,she is in for a life altering mud fight.

[Me]

Look like you need to look at some of the accusations involved in those cases. as ugly as Donald file and uglier for some of them.

[Me]

Very smart man. Beat millions in negative ads, was better at branding his opponents than any of those adds did to him, and get on message about immigration, defense and jobs.

As I said from long time. Very smart man. Academic elites couldn't see the obvious.

[Sir X]

What was the obvious?

[Me]

As I said from long time. Very smart man. Academic elites couldn't see the obvious.

branding, social media and connection to people through a simple and effective message.
Anyone who ever drive through these (former) factory towns should not be surprised. At least Silver try hedge him bet a little in the end after making a fool of himself in the primaries.

[Islandman]

Not sure if it was obvious as a winning strategy but give him his due, he took on two political establishments and beat them handily. He tapped into a vein that the elitists and professional pundits and pollsters just could not believe was flowing strong enough to pay dividends.

He did it without the traditional organization, without the funds and without the big time surrogates that Clinton had. Basically using social media and his personal brand. Truly remarkable.....and gut wrenching.

[Islandman]

Brexit was the eye opener for me. I spent quite a bit of time reading about the people who voted for it and why they did. Most people are not stupid and evil in the way that people who don't agree with them want to believe.

[Me]

Not sure if it was obvious as a winning strategy but give him his due, he took on two political establishments and beat them handily. He tapped into a vein that the elitists and professional pundits and pollsters just could not believe was flowing strong enough to pay dividends.

He did it without the traditional organization, without the funds and without the big time surrogates that Clinton had. Basically using social media and his personal brand. Truly remarkable.....and gut wrenching.

Media has changed - it was obvious from the primary that he understood social media and branding. The traditional media and politicians did not.

The message of trade and illegal immigration resonates. All you have to do is drive through these towns with failed manufacturing. it is the same message that resonated during the primaries (look at performance in open primaries).

The man told people the states that he was going to take and went and took them.

[Gamma]

Brexit resulted in immediate buyers remorse!

So the system is rigged?!!

[Sir X]

You giving him too much credit and not the people,it happened in Jamaica when Holness got swept out in his 1st term.

It's a protest vote ,angry white people upset with Washington and wallstreet,i think Bernie would have whipped his ass.

[Me]

Brexit was the eye opener for me. I spent quite a bit of time reading about the people who voted for it and why they did. Most people are not stupid and evil in the way that people who don't agree with them want to believe.

There is no counterargument to his position on the negative impact of trade without getting into a highly technical discussion.

"Open Trade" has meant corporate profits and the shipping of local jobs to "more efficient economies"

[Gamma]

Which he did! Trump ties shirts the works.

Hitler was democratically elected....

[Islandman]

Yes I shared a story just this week here about the factory town in the Carolinas that my company has all but shut down and moved to Mexico.

I realised early that issues those were strong messages but I also felt his negatives were going to be too much to overcome. I really didn't think he could pull it off in a general election. I was wrong.