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    Shaw's promise to double nurses' pay
    published: Sunday | October 7, 2007



    Shaw
    The Nurses' Association of Jamaica (NAJ) is pressing the Government to fulfil a promise made by Finance Minister Audley Shaw, when he was in Opposition, to double the take-home pay of nurses when he became minister.

    It was at the NAJ's 60th Anniversary/founder's luncheon on July 19, 2006, that Mr. Shaw gave the commitment, which he subsequently said he could not recall.

    Here are excerpts from the speech:

    I believe our nurses require special attention. I believe that there should be a risk differential that is paid to nurses for the work that they are doing (applause). When the firemen go to work at midnight, there is a special amount of money given to them for taxi; there is taxi money given to the firemen for the hours that they have to go to work. The point that I am trying to make is that Mrs. Allwood-Anderson (NAJ president) has been quite sharp in making this point, that the Minister of Finance must not be allowed to hide behind the memorandum of understanding and say his hands are tied. The fact is, that, even if the base pay is not touched, there are other areas that can be (inaudible due to applause).

    The other area that I would put - I would say categorically right now, I'll put it on the table publicly today - that the issue of sessional work, or overtime work, as more people understand it to be, we believe that overtime work by nurses should not attract any taxes (applause). If you were to start with those two things - this differential for the nurses and not taxing overtime pay - it would have an immediate impact! (applause)

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    But I want to go further! And I hope I don't get myself into too deep a trouble today. I want to say that Mrs. Allwood-Anderson has publicly stated that the take-home pay of nurses ought to be doubled, and I want to publicly support that position (applause). Doubling the take-home pay of that nurse who has a master's degree means that instead of getting US$540 per month, she's going to get $1,080 per month. That is still one third of what she would get … and that is still 20 per cent or 15 per cent of what she would get if she were working in Florida, or New York, or elsewhere.

    So, while doubling the nurses' salary might appear to be ambitious, I don't believe it is overly ambitious. I don't believe that it is. I believe that in the context of where you are starting from, it is still a relatively modest claim.
    I believe that this is something that I would like to give the commitment that, as Minister of Finance, this would have to be just the starting position, just the starting position, doubling the salary of nurses!

    And I'm going to tell you something: We can find the money to do it! And I don't want you to be cynical about it. Let me tell you why I think we can find the money to do it. Cut out the corruption! Cut out the corruption! And I'll give you just one example. It's covered on two pages of the newspapers today. Cut out the corruption! Cut out the nepotism! Cut out the issue of contracts being awarded to yourself!

    mismanagement
    Another example is not just corruption. It's mismanagement! Yesterday, in the House of Parliament, we found that some $2.7 billion of overdraft has been racked up by the Sugar Company of Jamaica. You know why? Because, instead of the minister finding the money either from the Consolidated Fund or PetroCaribe Fund … There's cash around the place; there's money around the place! You have the Consolidated Fund, you have PetroCaribe, you have the net international reserves - US$2 billion … There is money, but he allows one company - the Sugar Company - to rack up those kinds of overdrafts at an interest rate of 43 per cent! Forty-three percentage interest rate! As I said to the Finance Minister, it is an absolutely scandal and an absolute disgrace! So, he runs a close overdraft and he tells the nurses, "I don't have any … (inaudible).

    In those two examples alone - Sandals Whitehouse and the Sugar Company of Jamaica - we are seeing almost $6 billion; two billion more than you need to double your salary, going down the drain.

    The final point then is to say, how do we finance it? We finance it by cutting out the corruption. The Leader of the Opposition has a bill before Parliament now, calling for precisely what Mr. Christie has called for. Mr. Christie, in his report, has asked that the Government pass a law that makes it legal for anybody … to be able to illegally award contracts to themselves without vacating the chair, declaring interest and making sure that the transparent system of competitive award of contracts takes place.

    issue of governance
    How can a country be wealthy if one third of our adults are not working? If one third of our adults are not productive human beings, how can we be wealthy, and is it any surprise that we have such a high crime rate? And so, it is an issue of governance, attracting investors, training people, putting them to work and then from that, you raise more taxes, and not borrow your way out. We are borrowing our way out to build up the NIR!

    But then when you borrow, everything instead of earning your way out … When you earn, you earn taxes; when you earn taxes you pay your nurses. We are borrowing and when you borrow, every year the budget comes and what happens at that time? Seventy dollars out of every hundred-dollar bill has to pay debt! But I tell you, it's worse than that!

    Because our revenues are not adequate to cover our debt, we now have to borrow money just to cover the debt, and borrow more money to pay nurses, to pay police. It is unsustainable! It just cannot continue.
    So, today I say to you: Don't give up your fight! Mrs. Allwood-Anderson, you are on the runway! Don't give up your fight! You keep hope alive! Keep it alive!

    You know, I'm glad for my mother. Before she died, she left all of her children with the fear of the Lord in their hearts, and I read the Bible a lot, and one of the words in the Bible allows you hope. And the book of Job tells us that there is hope of a tree that will be cut down; that it will sprout again, and from the tender branch thereof, it shall not cease. Jamaica can sprout again! And the nurses will sprout again! God bless all of you! (applause)

    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

  • #2
    There is just this little thing the backers of 'promising and not delivering'...the backers of the JLP and PNP for that matter...who now claim -"how could the nurses be so foolish as to believe Finance Minister Audley Shaw?...

    ...that little thing goes to the heart of how we make discisions on which party we make governments. You see a big reason why we vote parties into power is belief in promises!

    Are these people saying "they are all just a lying bunch" therefore vote not for the future, but for fear of the known past? ...and, if that is what we must do...is not the lyings soon a part of the past? Where then do we go from there?
    Last edited by Karl; October 8, 2007, 09:51 AM.
    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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    • #3
      Look at the balance. Who has broken more promises to date????

      I propose to you that it is not even close.

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      • #4
        bet you him come with the PNP, JLP thing. The problem with Karl is him can't blame one over the other, only praise him praise one over the other, on any issue at at all.
        • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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        • #5
          AMEN! naw lie...mi still amazed by that.

          Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Willi View Post
            Look at the balance. Who has broken more promises to date????

            I propose to you that it is not even close.
            You are joking? Right?

            The question (unspoken? - looks to me like a 'like ova yuh ead' question! ...but that's another matter. ) you asked in your reply is; what promises could the JLP have made during the 18 years that they could be judged on not carrying out during those last 18 years?

            The answer would have to be something of this order in another question: They were never given the chance to even look at their promises during the last 18 years...so how do we judge whether or not they would have had 1 or 2 or a 1,000,000 broken promises?

            ...ask yuh agen - A joke yuh dida mek? rite?
            Last edited by Karl; October 8, 2007, 10:03 AM.
            "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Assasin View Post
              bet you him come with the PNP, JLP thing. The problem with Karl is him can't blame one over the other, only praise him praise one over the other, on any issue at at all.
              Fabrication gets you nowhere!

              Just one example: I have consistently sung the praises of Robert Lightbourne and his introduction of "value-added manufacture"...introduction of what some tried to pour scorn on and called Lightbourne's "screw-driver industry".
              "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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              • #8
                willi, thats totally disingenuous... the pnp has been in power for 18 yrs... the point isnt in how many promises not kept but the principle of promises made to secure votes for power, conscious that the promise has no foundation and is not intended to e met...

                are we going to be in the business of keeping score on unkept promises by the administrations... seems totally unproductive...

                if we are to progress, we are to hold the politicians accountable to their actions, or lack thereof...

                audley shaw made a campaign promise and he is to be held accountable... either he apologise to the nurses, attempt to make a reasonable attempt at placating them with a reasonable resolution or resign and spare the party from being tarred with the broad brush of insincerity...
                'to get what we've never had, we MUST do what we've never done'

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                • #9
                  it is bad that that is the only example you can find because some of us only heard of Lightbourne so we can't comment.

                  Think, Karl and think of something in the last 20 years, Ah bwoy that must be hard, tek your time
                  • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Assasin View Post
                    it is bad that that is the only example you can find because some of us only heard of Lightbourne so we can't comment.

                    Think, Karl and think of something in the last 20 years, Ah bwoy that must be hard, tek your time
                    Help me - You all point to - you said, look at the last 20 years - 1st 2years: '87-'89 as being a part of that great economic boom. I asked for whom was that boom? ...then the following 18 years, '89 - 2007; they proved a good strident opposition. They emphasized some wrongs and inefficiencies of the PNP that needed airing. ...but, then immediately before the elections they embarked on the greatest period of lying to the Jamaican electorate that I have ever witnessed.

                    Well enough people believed them...so now they have caught the 'country'. They must rule. ...as a JLP friend of mine told me through 7.15 am Eastern this morning to 8.15 am Eastern..."Just wait Karl and you shall see how Bruce makes everything better"?

                    I answered "We'll see! Then we can talk again. Just remember that no part of what we are facing is by itself in isolation. When you pull here...there is a reaction elsewhere?"

                    JLP friend: "Well do not expect him to solve everything in 5 years".

                    I answered "Well it is a slow tedious process! Just as the PNP were doing! Watch your Brucie stay the course." Pray for the finding of oil!"

                    There was much more to the conversation...but...after my friend, who incidentally is an accountant...gave me a big to-do about balancing the books...and, I shot back that 'borrowing, seek aid and grants' which Brucie and the boys claimed was turning the country into a laughing stock as "beggars" inplying that should not be a part of the equation...my JLP friend said, "Let's stop...when you are ready to talk, believe and see that the economic policies of the past government were wacked we'll talk".

                    The quotations are not to be taken as verbatim - rather my best memory of the trend of the conversation!

                    Sooooo Sass: All I am asking you to do is list the good things the JLP has done during the last 20 years...as my memory does not have too many outside of the 1 I mentioned...and, the so-called 1 of great economic properity for our people during the '80s (false conclusion) that you have been touting!

                    Thanks!

                    PS: Tek yuh time. Mi gawn a road!
                    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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                    • #11
                      so you can't find one in the last 20 years then?

                      That was my point.

                      Thanks
                      • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                      • #12
                        thank you, baddaz.

                        Willi, if I didn't know better, I would swear yuh really a triba...NAH!


                        BLACK LIVES MATTER

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                        • #13
                          Spare the party from being tarred with the broad brush of insincerity ??

                          The PNP survived 18 years of this..

                          The PNP have set the bar.. ah nuh dem fault.. di JLP nuh haffi jump too high fi clear it.. as much as unnuh comrade ah try... try harder.

                          When REAL scandal lick... mi will tell unnuh.. save unnuh energy fi dat and stop wid di 'crying wolf'..

                          Mi hear one a talk bout 'new dispensation'..

                          LOL !! WHOEEE !!

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                          • #14
                            Tell us again about the 'new dispensation'

                            Heh, heh.

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