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    Greenspan bashes Bush policies
    Former Fed Chair says administration put politics before sound economics
    The Associated Press
    Updated: 7:18 p.m. ET Sept 15, 2007

    WASHINGTON - Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, in his new book, bashes President Bush for not responsibly handling the nation’s spending and racking up big budget deficits.

    A self-described “libertarian Republican,” Greenspan takes his own party to task for forsaking conservative principles that favor small government.

    “My biggest frustration remained the president’s unwillingness to wield his veto against out-of-control spending,” Greenspan wrote.

    Bush took office in 2001, the last time the government produced a budget surplus. Every year after that, the government has been in the red. In 2004, the deficit swelled to a record $413 billion.

    “The Republicans in Congress lost their way,” Greenspan wrote. “They swapped principle for power. They ended up with neither. They deserved to lose.”

    In 2006, voters put Democrats in charge of Congress for the first time in a dozen years.

    Greenspan’s memoir, “The Age of Turbulence: Adventures in a New World,” is scheduled for release Monday. The Associated Press purchased a copy Saturday at a retailer in the Washington area.
    The book is a recollection of his life and his time as Fed chief.

    Lamented build-up of deficits
    Greenspan, 81, ran the Fed for 18 1/2 years and was the second-longest serving chief. He served under four presidents, starting with his initial nomination by Ronald Reagan.

    He says he began to write the book on Feb. 1, 2006, the day his successor — Ben Bernanke — took over.
    The ex-Fed chief writes that he laments the loss of fiscal discipline.
    “‘Deficits don’t matter,’ to my chagrin, became part of Republicans’ rhetoric.”

    Greenspan long has argued that persistent budget deficits pose a danger to the economy over the long run.

    At the Fed, he repeatedly urged Congress to put back in place a budget mechanism that requires any new spending increases or tax cuts to be offset by spending reductions or tax increases.

    Surplesses never materialized
    Large projected surpluses were the basis for Bush’s $1.35 trillion, 10-year tax cut approved in the summer of 2001.

    Budget experts projected the government would run a whopping $5.6 trillion worth of surpluses over the subsequent decade after the cuts.

    Those surpluses, the basis for Bush’s campaign promises of a tax cut, never materialized.

    “In the revised world of growing deficits, the goals were no longer entirely appropriate,” Greenspan noted. Bush, he said, stuck with his campaign promises anyway. “Most troubling to me was the readiness of both Congress and the administration to abandon fiscal discipline.”

    Greenspan, in testimony before Congress in 2001 gave a major boost to Bush’s tax-cut plan, irking Democrats.

    At that time, Greenspan argued a tax cut could help the economy deal with sagging growth. The economy slipped into a recession in March 2001. The downturn ended in November of that year.

    Surpluses quickly turned to deficits after the bursting of the stock market bubble and the 2001 recession cut into government revenues.

    Government spending increased to pay for the fight against terrorism and receipts declined because of a string of tax cuts.

    White House defends tax cuts
    The Bush White House defended its fiscal policies in light of the Greenspan book.

    “Clearly those tax cuts proved to be the right medicine for an ailing economy,” White House spokesman Tony Fratto said. The 2001 recession was a mild one.

    “Tax cuts contributed a portion to early deficits, but those tax cuts accelerated growth over time leading to increased business activity, increased job growth and increased tax receipts, which today has us at low historic deficit levels and on a path to a surplus,” Fratto said.

    As to the spending side, Fratto added: “We’re not going to apologize for increased spending to protect our national security.”

    Of the conflict in the Middle East, Greenspan said: “I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil.”

    Greenspan said he was surprised by the political grip that Bush exerted over his administration.

    The Bush administration turned out to be different from “the reincarnation” of the Ford administration that Greenspan said he had imagined. “Now the political operation was far more dominant.” Greenspan was chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers under President Ford.

    Not in the 'inner circle'
    Power in the Bush White House was concentrated. “I certainly did not qualify as part of the inner circle, nor did I want to be,” Greenspan said.

    Greenspan enjoyed a good relationship with Bush’s predecessor, Bill Clinton, “a fellow information hound.”

    They also were on the same economic page. During the Clinton administration, budget deficits turned to surpluses. But Greenspan was “disappointed and sad” when news surfaced that Clinton had an affair with Monica Lewinsky, a White House intern.

    When Bush’s father was president, Greenspan recalled that he found himself in a public conflict with the White House. Greenspan had suggested inflation risks were still high enough that the Fed would be more inclined to boost interest rates, rather than lower them. The president quickly challenged the notion.

    For Bush’s father, the economy was his “Achilles’ heel, and as a result we ended up with a terrible relationship.” The economy went into a recession in the summer of 1990 and emerged from it in the spring of 1991.

    Many supporters of the elder Bush blamed Greenspan’s tight-money policies for the recession that contributed to Bush’s loss to Clinton.

    © 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20781873/
    Last edited by Karl; September 15, 2007, 08:56 PM.

  • #2
    good article sah
    • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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    • #3
      good one sah.

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      • #4
        Dont get me started.

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        • #5
          I maintain that the problem is not the tax cuts because the tax revenue collected has actually increased since the tax cuts have been in effect and the US economy has amazingly continued to grow despite heavy body blows over the last decade like the dot com meltdown, 911, war funding, Katrina/Rita, etc, etc

          The problem is the out of control spending on things like the private contracts given away in Iraq to do nothing, the Alaska "Bridge to Nowhere", and the countless other federally funded projects stuffed with pork.
          "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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          • #6
            Islandman the tax cut has not put the kind of tax in the kitty that was there before. Let us face it from the tax cut to Iraq, Bush them just had reckless policies that did not target growth put rather philosophy.
            • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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            • #7
              Are you just saying that or have you researched it? The federal tax revenues in the US have consistently increased since the tax cuts have been in place. I know this is counter-intuitive but what happens is the economy is stimulated by the tax cuts and hence grows faster even though the % of tax collected is lower.

              It is standard macro-economics that increasing tax rates past a certain point results in lower overall revenue instead of higher.

              Here is part of an article from the March 25, 2007 NY Times which is for the most part an anti-Bush newspaper.
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              "While the blistering growth rate of Federal tax revenues has slowed, revenues are still rising at an unexpectedly high rate, narrowing the deficit and providing vindication for backers of President Bush’s 2001 and 2003 tax cuts. In the fourth quarter of 2006, according to the Treasury Department, federal receipts rose 8.17 percent from the quarter a year earlier. For the first five months of the current fiscal year, which started in October, federal tax receipts were up 9.3 percent. “There’s no sign of a slowdown at the federal level like the one showing up at the state level,” said Aviva Aron-Dine, a policy analyst at the center for Budget and Policy Priorities in Washington.

              What accounts for the difference? Broadly speaking, the trends of state and federal tax revenues are tethered to the economy at large. But the structure of the two tax systems can produce divergent results, especially when economic gains are not distributed evenly.

              At the state level, personal income taxes produce about 39 percent of revenues. But over all, state income taxes aren’t very progressive — because in many states, people pay the same tax rate regardless of their income. And several states, including populous ones like Florida and Texas, don’t have an income tax. Sales taxes, which closely track the behavior of the broad consuming public, account for about 37 percent of state revenues. Combine these two features, and it means that state tax receipts, like Wal-Mart’s sales, are more likely to depend on how much the average consumer is earning and spending. "

              In terms of recent revenue growth, at least, the federal government is more like Saks. Its taxes derive largely from payroll and income taxes, with a significant contribution from corporate income taxes. The federal income tax is progressive, with brackets from 10 percent to 35 percent. So an economy in which corporations and high-income workers are thriving, and in which median incomes are barely budging, would still produce a large increase in tax revenue.

              That’s precisely what has happened in recent years. As corporate profits have increased sharply, corporate income taxes soared to $353.9 billion in fiscal 2006 from $131.8 billion in fiscal 2003. And as Emmanuel Saez, professor of economics at the University of California, Berkeley, has noted, the incomes of the top 1 percent rose dramatically from 2003 to 2005, from 14.9 percent of the total to 17.4 percent.
              "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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              • #8
                Last time I heard it had increase above 2000 level but not near the late 1990s level.
                • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                • #9
                  I don't know about that. Check out this graph or maybe you have one that shows something diferent


                  http://taxprof.typepad.com/./photos/...ue20growth.jpg
                  "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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