I cant believe this

[Sickko]

On Saturday night, 24 hours after the second debate...Dionne Jackson Miller has had to ask Bruce Golding a question that Audley Shaw failed to answer several times...the one if the JLP government will have to raise taxes if they get into office

And people here talking bout clarity....

[Mosiah]

Perhaps, sickko, but Portia is not doing a good job at all!

[Willi]

Not at all. I am in agreement.

She is out of her depth and I am a bit embarrassed for her!

Also, the talk of Mamma is extremely condescending, especially when she refers to herself as "Portia"..

She clearly has NO clue about Govt financing, as shown by the answer to the health fee question.

[Sickko]

Trust me I am very surprised, she is not doing too badly at all and I keep loking for the ear piece as if some one is helping her but I cnat see any...I had not planned to watch as I thought Bruce would have cleaned the floor with her from the very start.

maybe the two very serious questions from the two RJR women rocked him back on his heels a bit....aahh I see it now, it is woman time so they ganged up on him and tried to help Sister P by coming out at him aggresively to throw him off his game and giver her an edge.

[Sickko]

Well Lazie refers to himself in the third person so what...ha ha ha, seriously Willi she has exceeded my expectations...

[Karl]

Not at all.

She is out of her depth!

Also, the talk of Mamma is extremely condescending, especially when she refers to herself as "Portia"..

She clearly has NO clue about Govt financing, as shown by the answer to the health fee question.

Bruce is the better debater, that is not in doubt. Bruce is also more comfortable with the range of topics. Buce also has the ammunition as the entire country is impatient where "rate of progress" is concerned.

...but, he by his answers is making it clear that excepting for his removal of education fees - (By the way how far is he going with that? Secondary schools through to the various vocational institutions and colleges through to the various universities?) - and his 'free health services' he is not promising any other immediate quick solutions.

[Willi]

Lazie is not offering himself for public office!

If she exceeded your expectation, then it would have been abysmally low. Is your opinion of her so low???

[Karl]

Lazie is not offering himself for public office!

If she exceeded your expectation, then it would have been abysmally low. Is your opinion of her so low???

Based on the put down hype...since she took office..and the fact of the ammunition Bruce has, she is not doing badly in my opinion.

[Willi]

Bruce is the better debater, that is not in doubt. Bruce is also more comfortable with the range of topics. Buce also has the ammunition as the entire country is impatient where "rate of progress" is concerned.

...but, he by his answers is making it clear that excepting for his removal of education fees - (By the way how far is he going with that? Secondary schools through to the various vocational institutions and colleges through to the various universities?) - and his 'free health services' he is not promising any other immediate quick solutions.

But this is what I TOLD you long ago.

Mosiah did the same, as he pointed out that it will be tough going to raise growth rates with the given psychology and work ethic of many elements of the population.

[Sickko]

in a word....yes.

[Mosiah]

"...but, he by his answers is making it clear that excepting for his removal of education fees - (By the way how far is he going with that? Secondary schools through to the various vocational institutions and colleges through to the various universities?) - and his 'free health services' he is not promising any other immediate quick solutions."

Is that a bad thing?

[Karl]

But this is what I TOLD you long ago.

Mosiah did the same, as he pointed out that it will be tough going to raise growth rates with the given psychology and work ethic of many elements of the population.

I do not think there is one person here who expect immediate Utopia. ...and, I am equally sure you did not which to convey the idea that only the above reasons would prevent an immediate turn around in "rate of progress".

[Willi]

The only good point for Portia was that her closing soundbite was decent.

She superceded the coaching and put some real emotion in it.

[Mosiah]

Maybe not immediate utopia, but 18 years?!?!

[Karl]

"...but, he by his answers is making it clear that excepting for his removal of education fees - (By the way how far is he going with that? Secondary schools through to the various vocational institutions and colleges through to the various universities?) - and his 'free health services' he is not promising any other immediate quick solutions."

Is that a bad thing?

It aids the PNP by making all the people understand that the JLP is not promising much more than what currently holds...certainly at the very least in the short-term.

That is why Portia, in my opinon, should have highlighted what has been accomplished during the last 18 years...and, how staying the course on expanding reach...and, improving delivery of services was a natural continuation on the course.

I'll also say this, Bruce did not nearly use the mode of the people i.e. dissatisfaction with "rate of progress" to 'blow' Mrs Simpson-Miller out of the water. I was on the edge of my seat waiting for him to lower the hammer. Instead I think at times he was close to being rude and missed opportunities to play on areas of weakness by Mrs. Simpson-Miller.

In fact, I think both debaters spent too much time praising the other's programs. Time I think could have been better spent promoting their own programs. E.g. Portia 'point blank' accused the JLP of regurgitating the PNP's ongoing projects and plans. Bruce went into a praise of/agreeing that, his words, "there are many programs of the PNP we will continue" ...and, something about those programs being too many to list (or that is what I think). Portia went out of her way to talk about things we may have said (put promised for may have said) and not followed through on...and, so on.

Portia did not do badly. She may also have connected with better with the masses.