I would like to analyze Brucie's

[Muadib]

Willi come on man I know
that you know better. Many corporations that we hold in esteem did way more than just pollute waters in Africa, matter of fact it may have been better if they had just polluted the water. We are just seeing the ones that are being exposed. Best we leave the exploitation of Africa argument alone and just look to make abetter future.

In sub-culture it is referenced as:

Informah fi Dead !

Your slip is showing Jawge..

[Jawge]

ben what is readily apparent here
is that you have very little to contribute on the above subject matter. Boss just accept that this one is out of your scope, then read what is being put forth by myself and Willi and see if you can learn something. What you don't know, is that it is your slip that is showing (you understand nothing about corporations). Time fi mi get a piece of tracing now

[Muadib]

ben what is readily apparent here
is that you have very little to contribute on the above subject matter. Boss just accept that this one is out of your scope, then read what is being put forth by myself and Willi and see if you can learn something. What you don't know, is that it is your slip that is showing (you understand nothing about corporations). Time fi mi get a piece of tracing now

Jawge, with all due respect.. you are not in the league that you THINK you are.

You introduce complex topics at a very superficial level and then procede to expose your rather limited and simplistic reasoning ability..

Your foundation is weak.. it is akin to the phenomenon of ex-cons that through rudimentary methods during incarceration have an expanded vocabulary but not a good grasp of usage.

[Jawge]

Willi, I would like to close this by
saying that Brucie has been exposed on his leadership skills. I was the leader of the opposition and saw the fruitful groundwork in banking been layed by the PNP. I would monitor it and treat it as a prize. I would make plans for offshore banking to build on the prize and use the dividents to boost the economy (ofcourse I would see to it that all outlets give me credit for it, hey I am a politician) Therefore when certain info comes that would threaten my longterm objectives, I would ignore it. You don't want to win basket economy, there is no point in destroying the economy to win because it may take eons to rebuild and the populace will quickly turn on you in times of hardships. This brings me to another point; maybe this is why Eddie just don't see Brucie as a leader, Brucie is not shrewd and calculating (in short not a chessmaster) In all it's hard to regain trust here: What will one corp think? What if I fall out of favour with Brucie's govt.? it takes time to build a name in banking and I think we ost that chance. Do you really think companies and interests in Europe and N.america are climbing over each other to leave their money with us to play with?(JLP can fool the populace with that) You have to build a sytem of trust where your name gets out that your banking system is sound and whatever you do stays in the bank. We may have lost that chance completely (like it or not but it's a fact).

Bless.

[Muadib]

Willi, I would like to close this by
saying that Brucie has been exposed on his leadership skills. I was the leader of the opposition and saw the fruitful groundwork in banking been layed by the PNP. I would monitor it and treat it as a prize. I would make plans for offshore banking to build on the prize and use the dividents to boost the economy (ofcourse I would see to it that all outlets give me credit for it, hey I am a politician) Therefore when certain info comes that would threaten my longterm objectives, I would ignore it. You don't want to win basket economy, there is no point in destroying the economy to win because it may take eons to rebuild and the populace will quickly turn on you in times of hardships. This brings me to another point; maybe this is why Eddie just don't see Brucie as a leader, Brucie is not shrewd and calculating (in short not a chessmaster) In all it's hard to regain trust here: What will one corp think? What if I fall out of favour with Brucie's govt.? it takes time to build a name in banking and I think we ost that chance. Do you really think companies and interests in Europe and N.america are climbing over each other to leave their money with us to play with?(JLP can fool the populace with that) You have to build a sytem of trust where your name gets out that your banking system is sound and whatever you do stays in the bank. We may have lost that chance completely (like it or not but it's a fact).

Bless.

You are so full ot 5h1t it is embarassing...

[Willi]

G

U cant be serious.

What fruitful work are U talking about, wrt banking infrastructure.

Methinks someone is fooling you.

Politicians will be politicians and they will say whatever they think will further their cause. BG is no different in that respect.

Seaga is just mad at BG as he was impatient and pushed him out. Seaga did worse to Shearer, so I have no sympathy.

Talk of trust??? This govt has put us at the bottom of Transparency Intl list and U think people local and foreign have confidence in them???

[Lazie]

"Methinks someone is fooling you."

Really? I thought he was just being Jawge.

[Jawge]

Willi I want you to
read this article and tell me what you see going on here.

To the gallery: Ben and lazie read slowly and pay attention to what's in red. Please draw a conclusion and give a response filled with logic and reason. Thanks.

NEW ORLEANS - Hurricane Katrina victims whose homes and businesses were destroyed when floodwaters breached levees in the 2005 storm cannot recover money from their insurance companies for the damages, a federal appeals court ruled Thursday.
The case could affect thousands of rebuilding residents and business owners in Louisiana. Robert Hartwig, chief economist at the industry-funded Insurance Information Institute in New York, said in June that a ruling against the industry could have cost insurers $1 billion.
“This event was excluded from coverage under the plaintiffs’ insurance policies, and under Louisiana law, we are bound to enforce the unambiguous terms of their insurance contracts as written,” Judge Carolyn King wrote for a three-judge panel of the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
As a result, the panel found those who filed the suit “are not entitled to recover under their policies,” she said.
More than a dozen insurance companies, including Allstate and Travelers, were defendants.
The decision overturns a ruling by U.S. District Judge Stanwood Duval Jr., who in November sided with policyholders arguing that language excluding water damage from some of their insurance policies was ambiguous.
Duval said the policies did not distinguish between floods caused by an act of God — such as excessive rainfall — and floods caused by an act of man, which would include the levee breaches following Katrina’s landfall.
But the appeals panel concluded that “even if the plaintiffs can prove that the levees were negligently designed, constructed, or maintained and that the breaches were due to this negligence, the flood exclusions in the plaintiffs’ policies unambiguously preclude their recovery.”
“Regardless of what caused the failure of the flood-control structures that were put in place to prevent such a catastrophe, their failure resulted in a widespread flood that damaged the plaintiffs’ property,” and policies clearly excluded water damage caused by floods, King wrote.
This was a consolidated case, including about 40 named plaintiffs, including Xavier University, and more than a dozen insurance companies. It is just one of the cases pending in federal court over Katrina damage. The Army Corps of Engineers faces thousands of claims for damage resulting after the levees breached; King noted in her opinion that dozens more cases, some consolidated and involving property owners suing insurers, are pending in federal court in New Orleans.
Allstate spokesman Mike Siemienas said the Illinois-based company is pleased with the court’s findings. Several other attorneys, on both sides of the case, did not immediately return telephone messages or declined comment.

[Willi]

Willi I want you to
read this article and tell me what you see going on here.

To the gallery: Ben and lazie read slowly and pay attention to what's in red. Please draw a conclusion and give a response filled with logic and reason. Thanks.

NEW ORLEANS - Hurricane Katrina victims whose homes and businesses were destroyed when floodwaters breached levees in the 2005 storm cannot recover money from their insurance companies for the damages, a federal appeals court ruled Thursday.
The case could affect thousands of rebuilding residents and business owners in Louisiana. Robert Hartwig, chief economist at the industry-funded Insurance Information Institute in New York, said in June that a ruling against the industry could have cost insurers $1 billion.
“This event was excluded from coverage under the plaintiffs’ insurance policies, and under Louisiana law, we are bound to enforce the unambiguous terms of their insurance contracts as written,” Judge Carolyn King wrote for a three-judge panel of the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.
As a result, the panel found those who filed the suit “are not entitled to recover under their policies,” she said.
More than a dozen insurance companies, including Allstate and Travelers, were defendants.
The decision overturns a ruling by U.S. District Judge Stanwood Duval Jr., who in November sided with policyholders arguing that language excluding water damage from some of their insurance policies was ambiguous.
Duval said the policies did not distinguish between floods caused by an act of God — such as excessive rainfall — and floods caused by an act of man, which would include the levee breaches following Katrina’s landfall.
But the appeals panel concluded that “even if the plaintiffs can prove that the levees were negligently designed, constructed, or maintained and that the breaches were due to this negligence, the flood exclusions in the plaintiffs’ policies unambiguously preclude their recovery.”
“Regardless of what caused the failure of the flood-control structures that were put in place to prevent such a catastrophe, their failure resulted in a widespread flood that damaged the plaintiffs’ property,” and policies clearly excluded water damage caused by floods, King wrote.
This was a consolidated case, including about 40 named plaintiffs, including Xavier University, and more than a dozen insurance companies. It is just one of the cases pending in federal court over Katrina damage. The Army Corps of Engineers faces thousands of claims for damage resulting after the levees breached; King noted in her opinion that dozens more cases, some consolidated and involving property owners suing insurers, are pending in federal court in New Orleans.
Allstate spokesman Mike Siemienas said the Illinois-based company is pleased with the court’s findings. Several other attorneys, on both sides of the case, did not immediately return telephone messages or declined comment.

Please clarify what exactly U want a comment on. This seems like a non-sequitor.

[Jawge]

Well there were rants saying
that corporations cannot have their way in the states and yada, yada.

[Willi]

Well there were rants saying
that corporations cannot have their way in the states and yada, yada.

That was more about open illeglities.

However, you now my take on the US. U must have seen my post.

Many will think me extreme, but the recent comments about a newer whiter Norleans sez it all.

Those levees were blown to facilitate socio-ethnic cleansing and regentrification. All poor people had to go. The New Norleans will be the new DisneyLand.

Courts finding for Insurance companies is nothing new, nor particularly sinister. Check out the movie Sickko.

The US has more that its fair share of problems, though until recently, they never made it get in the way of business.

Jamaica made everything get in the way of business.

UK has better governance than the US.

[Jawge]

Okay so now we shift
gears to England. Lazie and Ben; the US doesn't count. Okay Willi I will
get back to you. Quick question: The poor own homes and busineses in New Orleans? Seems as if I'm in the wrong state

[Muadib]

Okay so now we shift
gears to England. Lazie and Ben; the US doesn't count. Okay Willi I will
get back to you. Quick question: The poor own homes and busineses in New Orleans? Seems as if I'm in the wrong state

You are truly pathetic.

Defending the indefensible is a herculean task even with good reasoning skills... you are one long 'In Living Color Skit' you know the one I am talking about.. the ex-con with the 'impressive' vocabulary..

[Willi]

Okay so now we shift
gears to England. Lazie and Ben; the US doesn't count. Okay Willi I will
get back to you. Quick question: The poor own homes and busineses in New Orleans? Seems as if I'm in the wrong state

Do you even have a basis for comparison??

I know what I am talking about. My Bro is in Politics in the UK!!

I see first hand their implementation of the moggle and can compare with the US and Jamaica.

I haffi agree with BenJ here, you are grasping at straws. Jamaica is an example for no one. We are totally screwed up. e have the worst of all worlds.

Can you even imagine how far ahead of us our Caribbean neighbours are?? Is like they live in annadah universe.

[Karl]

That is the salient point.

In all jurisdictions, National security and sovereignty trumps banking secrecy.

Agreed 100%...but, it also means we must be careful...very careful on when...

...and the how of,

...and about what matter/topic/event that leads to delving into and revealing what under normal circumstances should remain secret and safe.

Jawge is on solid grounds when he says Goldings actions will give, at the very least, some holders (persons and entities) of worthwhile funds pause.