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  • #31
    But if they have a puppet in the whitehouse ...

    Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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    • #32
      https://www.buzzfeed.com/craigsilver...-trump-misinfo

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      • #33
        Then all bets are off.

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        • #34
          any questions?

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          • #35
            Too many to count.
            "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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            • #36
              Legion

              White people ten back dem country!

              Looks like a lot of voters did not declare their hand. Bradley effect...

              Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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              • #37
                Yep.
                "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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                • #38
                  hillary is the status quo...two faced politician playing both sides of the fence...if you want change & action danald chumps is obviously the better choice

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                  • #39
                    Hillary?

                    Like most of us...certainly I am and am comfortable with that fact...a complicated person.

                    - She is for free trade...certainly for TTP (she said so and acted in that manner)...and stated the agreement as written needs modifications.

                    - She is hawkish on how to deal with ISIS...but thinks long term on believing it is imperative to act such that relations with the Muslim world morph towards living in harmony.

                    - She supports the Jewish state's right to peaceful existence and would provide the tools to ensure its survival...even as she believes in creation of a Palestinian State.

                    - She is a liberal and support social positions as it pertains to helping the poor and disadvantaged - Non-privatization of Social Security, Universal Health Care = modifying The Affordable Care Act (inclusive of expanding Medicare and Medicaid), Expanding subsidies and grants to expand and improve education opportunities for those who need same...and on and on.

                    - She is for developing as rapidly as possible 'current new technologies' and developing capabilities of same and creation of others - research and development expansion.

                    - She is for building out (= expansion and modernization) and expanding reach of the 'essential services' - roads, water, telecommunication, electricity, etc.

                    - She is for expansion and improvement of exploration of Space.

                    - She is for world peace.

                    - She is for protection of the environment - (She believes we inhabit Sapce Ship Earth and protection and security of Space Ship Earth, currently our only means of transportation, is a no-brainer. Hey we cannot hop off as presently there is no means of hopping onto another!)

                    - She is for economic strengthening of our USA economy and the world's economy...including not driving tens of millions of undocumented persons and their trillions of economic activity out of the country. She recognizes that America's greatest market lies outside of her shores and the building of well thought out trade agreements with international partners is the way to go. - She recognizes that USA factories (substitution for productive capacity) cannot continue to support the hundred of millions of USA citizens it currently does and expand on those numbers if the USA does not exploit its external markets.

                    - She supports regulations that protect the American masses as man's first instinct is personal protection of self and family, therefore government's need to constantly address protection for the common good.

                    e.g. Dodd-Frank

                    - She is a career politician and her very self-preservation lies in doing the most good for the most people. She is not a public sector only person - She is an Entrepreneur. She made a business out of public engagements...delivering speeches, writing books, etc. ...and recognizes that importance of a "Wall Street" to the nation and lives of individuals - One reason she rails against "Wall Street" in the context of preserving same as a more compassionate entity (= moderation and control on level of profiteering).


                    ...I could go on and on!!!!! ...point is, she is a complicated human being! ...but she comes down heavily on the side of logic and pragmatism.
                    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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                    • #40
                      Trump is a con man.. you been conned.. don't fret doh cause is not you one gullible !

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                      • #41
                        Trump?

                        - Realtor, all his life! New York born and bred realtor from a bygone age. That age was taught as selling 'the buyer' (=anyone who is potentially a purchaser of what you have to sell! Real property...fantasy...etc.) ...by any means possible. CLOSE THE DEAL AT ALL COST! A joke that spoke to real estate selling - "Kill 'them' with bullshit! Confuse 'them'! Get 'them' to pant at 'the opportunity'! ...and CLOSE THE DEAL BEFORE 'THEY' WAKE UP!"

                        Has be just played his real estate training to the max...and closed the deal? ...or will we see a less self-centered and kinder Donald Trump?

                        One thing we know, we have elected a ruthless take no prisoners man!
                        Look out America! Look out World! Yup he has that ruthlessness of purpose that could make there be 'hell to pay' or if he turns away from everything we previously knew of him - My way or the highway! -...an agent of great positive change. There will be no middle road for this driven man.

                        I am very apprehensive! ...and I fear...physically and emotionally...the worst!
                        "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Don1 View Post
                          LOL! You're falling for the corporate media propaganda

                          Yes...Russia under Putin is far more assertive than the post-collapse government of Yeltsin. But to suggest Putin is more "militarily aggressive" than the average US president (much less a President Killary) is at odds with the facts. As logical people we depend on facts

                          Let's examine merely the facts of the last 15 years of "peace-loving" USA and its direct & proxy military interventions:

                          Afghanistan invasion: Longest war in US history & still ongoing. 100K+ dead
                          Life cycle war costs ~$1.5 TRILLION

                          Iraq invasion: 2nd longest war in US history & still ongoing. 250K+ dead. Illegal regime change executed. ISIS/ISIL created from the chaos...and the Islamist madness metastasizing globally
                          Life cycle costs ~$3 TRILLION

                          Libya bombing: Illegal regime change executed. 75K+ dead. Country torn apart with no functioning government. Chaos spread throughout N Africa

                          Syria regime change op. ~300K dead. US arming & supporting so-called "rebels" who are openly allied with declared ISIS/Al Nusra terrorists. Country torn apart

                          Yemen bombing: US supporting & arming Saudi Arabia & Gulf states in that war ~30K dead (so far).

                          This is the epitome of "military aggressiveness" If any other country had performed these works...it would be condemned.

                          Now some may agree with the political motives behind these awful military interventions...and see the US as some kind of savior. But that would be further buying into nonsensical corporate media & govt propaganda.

                          In reality these US interventions are disasters of historic proportions
                          Do you think Trump's solution will be bomb 'the **** out of them'...or allow Putin to do as he will?

                          ...will he follow the powerful's role of raiding those countries for their natural wealth?
                          "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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                          • #43
                            But Elda....

                            Originally posted by Karl View Post
                            Do you think Trump's solution will be bomb 'the **** out of them'...or allow Putin to do as he will?

                            ...will he follow the powerful's role of raiding those countries for their natural wealth?
                            How mi fi know dat?
                            Last edited by Don1; November 9, 2016, 11:04 AM.
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                            Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                            D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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                            • #44
                              guess you didn't read the podesta email dump...poor you

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Bricktop View Post
                                hillary is the status quo...two faced politician playing both sides of the fence...if you want change & action danald chumps is obviously the better choice
                                So which side is Donald playing?
                                "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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