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  • Did Harambe deserve to die because of a parent's negligence?

    Gorillas are self-aware. They love, laugh, sing, play, and grieve. Western lowland gorillas are gentle animals. They don’t attack unless they’re provoked.

    Who can forget gorilla Binti Jua, who gently picked up an unconscious boy who had fallen into her enclosure and cradled him in her arms before carefully handing him over to Brookfield Zoo keepers?


    http://www.peta.org/blog/gorilla-pay...20Link%20Share


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    Harambe chilling.

    And chilling video of encounter with boy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4KrNrFeXh8


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    • #3
      stupid question...of course he didn't deserve to die...but they had to shoot him...he would have crushed that kid with his bare hands...

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      • #4
        More like their laugh and play could be interpreted as physical assault or murder if 400 lbs of fist or foot gets planted on your face with laughter or thrown around like a rag doll,now try that with a 4 y.o.and yes those parents should be charged with child endangerment for letting him run wild.

        It is a stupid question.
        THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

        "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


        "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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        • #5
          Why are we so...so nasty on this Forum? Why does the question have to be "stupid"?

          It is a fair question.

          Thanks for your responses tho.



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          • #6
            Did Harambe deserve to die because of a parent's negligence?

            Give me the other options given the scenario in front of you , a 400 lb animal whose form of play (could) be hazardous to your health.Now put that in context of a child no more than 4 ?

            Sorry if it came off the wrong way .
            THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

            "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


            "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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            • #7
              I framed the question that way to get a response. So, it's not my opinion, necessarily, that the mother was negligent, or that Harambe should not have been killed. But sometimes we can just respond without the vitriol and bile. Good lord!

              My opinion? I think it was an unfortunate situation, but the child had to be put out of harm's way.

              Should the mother face some sort of charge? It is said she had a lot of children in her care at the time. Is that what you want to do in a zoo?

              But maybe her grief is enough. Just imagine the trauma of watching this unfold! They have already posted pictures of her on the Internet, complete with her workplace, the church she attends and her phone number. Half of those people bothering her would have no problem stringing up a black man for looking at their daughters.

              Then it is said she is suing the zoo! She may have a point and could certainly win in court!

              My thing is this zoo thing is not what we need in a 21st century world. I am not sure we have the right to be imprisoning exotic animals from around the world for our viewing pleasure.


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              • #8
                I framed the question that way to get a response :

                You expected a civil response, a sarcastic response, an amusing response, a sympathetic response, a rude response ?

                You got a response, i was hoping your skin would be thick enough to take one you wouldnt like or welcome.

                Again sorry it came off the wrong way.
                THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

                "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


                "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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                • #9
                  Apology accepted, my brother!

                  The thing is, that is how a lot of people have been bringing up the topic. For some of us, animals are more worthy than humans. I can imagine if the mom was black! Yes, I had to go there!

                  I'm sure the mom has already received death threats and some idiot may try to carry it out.


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                  • #10
                    I know a Caucasian friend just posted senseless killing on FB,i just shook my head.

                    I don't think these people think color , animals simply value more even in cases of children. :
                    THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

                    "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


                    "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                      Gorillas are self-aware. They love, laugh, sing, play, and grieve. Western lowland gorillas are gentle animals. They don’t attack unless they’re provoked.

                      Who can forget gorilla Binti Jua, who gently picked up an unconscious boy who had fallen into her enclosure and cradled him in her arms before carefully handing him over to Brookfield Zoo keepers?


                      http://www.peta.org/blog/gorilla-pay...20Link%20Share
                      A Very tough question!

                      Maybe the best way to answer it...would to consider if that was your child.
                      The only time TRUTH will hurt you...is if you ignore it long enough

                      HL

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                        Gorillas are self-aware. They love, laugh, sing, play, and grieve. Western lowland gorillas are gentle animals. They don’t attack unless they’re provoked.

                        Who can forget gorilla Binti Jua, who gently picked up an unconscious boy who had fallen into her enclosure and cradled him in her arms before carefully handing him over to Brookfield Zoo keepers?


                        http://www.peta.org/blog/gorilla-pay...20Link%20Share
                        Yes, the correct decision was made to shoot the Gorilla. The animal was aggressive with the child and did not obey instructions to go into the cage. The other Gorillas were not shout because they obeyed instruction when into their cages. The screaming crowd was a huge problem. Here is a better outcome when a similar accident happened and the Gorillas obeyed instructions .....http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/kil...cid=spartanntp
                        The same type of thinking that created a problem cannot be used to solve the problem.

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                        • #13
                          lol...how did this turn into a black lives matter topic?

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                          • #14
                            Were the parents negligent? Is that for sure? Or was the zoo negligent for not having the visitors sufficiently and safely separated from the animals?

                            I am not judging the parents because I don't think we have enough information to say they were negligent. The zoo did the right thing BTW. Had the child been harmed or killed by the gorilla (accidentally or otherwise) what would the reaction be?

                            Either way, it's a sad tale.

                            One take on this is that gorillas and other animals should not be in a zoo to begin with, and their habitat needs to be protected so they can live in the wild as they are supposed to.
                            Peter R

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                            • #15
                              Did it?


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