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  • Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders, are they the two sides of

    the same coin?

    Just think on this, Trump and Sanders make the following claims or at the least represent or put forward the following:-
    - Our economy is in the tank!

    This is on the strongest and most robust economy in the world.

    - Trade: In absolute terms international trade deals have caused the loss of jobs, hundred of thousands of jobs in the United States!

    This in the face of omission of benefits these trade policies bring to the US in terms of keeping US workers in jobs and expanding job opportunities in US.

    - They use the Hitler-like tactic of either repeated outright lies - (...and insinuate or loudly and publicly label those opponents who call them out on the lies as liars) - or obliquely suggest same.

    Repeat a lie often enough...vast numbers eventually accept it as truth!

    To be fair the Republicans have for decades invested in that 'art' of repeated lies morphing into 'truth' for some appreciable numbers of US citizens.

    See:
    Hillary Clinton is untrustworthy!
    The GOP believes in smaller government!
    The GOP believes in keeping 'The Government' out of your lives!
    The GOP defends and believes in The Constitution!


    - They both espouse 'going authoritarian' on leadership.
    The preach belief in getting their way in the face of opposition to 'what they claim they shall install'.

    - They divide the people along racial lines.

    Bernie: Plants the thought of white/black divide. Hillary only wins contests because large numbers of blacks vote for her without even a nod to the white %age of the population.

    Trump: Makes no bones of his racist tendencies.

    Bernie's Freudian slip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6IlGoeDIUQ


    - They both promise what they cannot deliver as they ignore the reality of some appreciable numbers of Republicans in the Congress who shall not go along with their promises.

    So obvious this does not even demand a 'good look'.

    There is a slowly growing realization that these guys have a real shot at becoming our next US president and, if they actually believe what they say, being smart persons knowing exactly what it is they say, there is reason to believe that each is racist and a dictator in the making!!!
    Last edited by Karl; March 15, 2016, 02:33 PM.
    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

  • #2
    Originally posted by Karl View Post
    They both speak to blacks as being 'the only poor'! Bernie's Freudian slip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6IlGoeDIUQ [/I]
    Freudian slip?! What's wrong with what Bernie said? I would trust Bernie when it comes to racial issues more than I'll trust Hillary! The man endorsed Jesse Jackson for president in 1998!

    Trump now - he would deserve anything that catches him square between...zas crise, koo di time!!


    BLACK LIVES MATTER

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    • #3
      It would be a bit of an exaggeration (in my view) to say that they are two sides of the same coin, but I have made the argument here before that the movements they are leading are closer than many of us realise. They make similar arguments about what they see as the problems, but with different tones.

      It is quite likely that a not insignificant number of Bernies people would vote for Trump over Hilary in a general election.
      "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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      • #4
        Trump is for working class whites,pro police and rednecks.I don't think a Trump presidency would give a rat's ass about the inner city.

        Wallstreet Godfather

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJj2kSbwpqE
        THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

        "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


        "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
          Freudian slip?! What's wrong with what Bernie said?
          On categorizing of blacks and race, what he said exposes the inner self of, the true self of the man!
          "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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          • #6
            Oh? Do you recall the frustrated Freudian slip by the Clinton's back in 2008 in the Carolinas as it became more obvious that Obama was going to win?

            Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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            • #7
              What about exactly? That blacks live in ghettos? He also there are no poor whites. Or something like that.

              Hey, they're all uncomfortable talking about and bring around blacks, so I'll excuse so-called Freudian slips within reason.


              BLACK LIVES MATTER

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              • #8
                Regardless his progressive agenda for minorities and the poor exceeds that of Hillary.

                How many Freudian slips have Clinton made,ohhh please and how detrimental have some of her past advocacy been to people of color,she voted for the increase in the criminal industrial complex,in other words Hillary talks the talk while Bernie walks the walk.
                THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

                "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


                "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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                • #9
                  Tank yuh tank yuh tank yuh .... How much has clintons 3 strikes law enhanced the prison industry by mainly which segment of society?

                  On the issue of civil rights I will side with Bernie all day

                  Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                  • #10
                    Unfortunately, Bill's fat is used to fry Hillary. The presidency is more than just civil rights. Bernie's focus is solely fixed on Wall Street.
                    Hey .. look at the bright side .... at least you're not a Liverpool fan! - Lazie 2/24/10 Paul Marin -19 is one thing, 20 is a whole other matter. It gets even worse if they win the UCL. *groan*. 05/18/2011.MU fans naah cough, but all a unuh a vomit?-Lazie 1/11/2015

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                    • #11
                      Not true,civil rights ,income inequality, investing in the cities.
                      THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

                      "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


                      "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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                      • #12
                        side issues after he sticks it to Wall Street. Plus his foreign policies are very weak.
                        Hey .. look at the bright side .... at least you're not a Liverpool fan! - Lazie 2/24/10 Paul Marin -19 is one thing, 20 is a whole other matter. It gets even worse if they win the UCL. *groan*. 05/18/2011.MU fans naah cough, but all a unuh a vomit?-Lazie 1/11/2015

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                        • #13
                          ...hehe...that's the Bern.
                          THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

                          "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


                          "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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                          • #14
                            True enough Jangle. But I'm not feeling Hilary...she is not connecting with me

                            Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                            • #15
                              Hillary doesn't have the charisma of an Obama or of most politicians but I like her work ethics and her composure. She is and has been a hard worker from her college days. She went about her business taking up causes without seeking political glory and when she became Secretary of State, she practically ran herself in the ground travelling all over the world repairing the damage done by Bush. Forget about the rhetoric from the Repugs about America being weak, when Obama came into power, most of the US allies were reeling from the worldwide recession and the bond was weaker than it is today. She represents the best of all evils that is running for the office today.
                              Hey .. look at the bright side .... at least you're not a Liverpool fan! - Lazie 2/24/10 Paul Marin -19 is one thing, 20 is a whole other matter. It gets even worse if they win the UCL. *groan*. 05/18/2011.MU fans naah cough, but all a unuh a vomit?-Lazie 1/11/2015

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