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  • #46
    Originally posted by Don1 View Post
    Nothing is ever complete

    Beyond Einstein...People who believe Mankind can discover a so-called "theory of everything" are completely off the wall. Monumentally conceited

    The irony of science is: The more we learn...The more we find there is to learn. So in effect we discover more multiples of ignorance with each advance in scientific knowledge

    This is an exponential construct we will never get ahead of imo...

    Humans merely plod along discovering tiny particles of knowledge in a limitless universe we're ignorant about .... And that's only the 1 universe we believe we exist in... Mi naw even talk the rest ah dem
    Now yuh-a talk!
    Clap im!
    ...han agen! ...han agen...han...
    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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    • #47
      Unfortunately, when it comes to JP Morgan, this is what comes to mind:

      From J.P. Morgan Chase, an Apology And $5 Million in Slavery Reparations

      By*KEN MAGILL,*Staff Reporter of the Sun
      February 1, 2005

      J.P. Morgan Chase & Company's recent apology for ties to slavery and a corresponding $5 million scholarship program it set up for black students was a "step in the right direction for a tainted corporation," but the nation's no. 2 bank has a long way to go before it has fully paid its debt to African Americans, said one of the slave-reparations movement's central figures, Deadria Farmer-Paellmann.

      J.P. Morgan Chase filed a disclosure statement with the city of Chicago on January 20 acknowledging that between 1831 and 1865, two of J.P. Morgan Chase's predecessor banks - Citizens Bank and Canal Bank in Louisiana - accepted approximately 13,000 slaves as collateral for loans and ended up owning approximately 1,250 of them as a result of defaults.

      The company apologized on its Web site and to employees and said it will provide $5 million over five years for full tuition for African American undergraduates from Louisiana to attend college in their home state.

      The scholarship is believed to be the first time an American company has paid reparations for slavery.


      http://www.nysun.com/business/from-j...-million/8580/

      I guess they're still way better than the rest.


      BLACK LIVES MATTER

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      • #48
        I believe (I am not sure) that the modern electrical universe 'alternative' scientist sbelieve that Gravity is just another electro magnetic force that is not fully understood but is subjected to inverse square laws because it is an EM force.

        Tesla in his typical rude fashion ridiculed Einstein Space-Time curvature as impossible because something (mass) cannot act on nothing (space-time) to produce something (gravity.) He believed that 'the Ether' fills space and that it contains energy (would that be zero point energy?) that fills the universe and drives everything.

        Maybe Tesla and Einstein were referring to the same thing but looking at it from different angles? Only time will tell.
        The same type of thinking that created a problem cannot be used to solve the problem.

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        • #49
          Interesting. Yes it is certainly possible that they were not far off from each other. Just a different way of modelling a problem.

          The idea of the existence of an "ether" was very popular up to early 20th century. Today it is not used but "dark matter" doesn't sound that different from an ether to me, from my uneducated laymans understanding.

          Interestingly enough Einstein in his later life wasn't a big fan of quantum mechanics and its dependence on probabilities. He liked to say that "God doesn't play dice". , a very unusual argument for a scientist to make. Clearly they all had their biases like the rest of us.
          Last edited by Islandman; December 23, 2015, 04:03 PM.
          "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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          • #50
            Yup. Einstein was no fan of quantum mechanics.

            What is also interesting is that Tesla was no fan of the electron as a particle. He was very upset that the electron was viewed as a particle carrier of his beloved electricity and he declared that it does not exist.

            A simplified modern view of the electron is that is exist at a point only when measured ... My layman thinking is that 'this line of reasoning' has met Tesla half-way between 'no existence as a particle' and existing only when measured...
            The same type of thinking that created a problem cannot be used to solve the problem.

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