SpaceX completes orbital gymnastics..Sticks the Landing

[Don1]

Musk is quite the innovator. If even two of Tesla Motors, Space X, Gigafactory , Hyperloop and Solar City lives up to their full potential he will be in VERY rare company indeed. One who revolutionized one (or more) industries.

Also, as accomplished as Edison was, lets not forget that he had JP Morgan as his backer, and they were both more than willing to destroy any and every other competitor. Their collective effort to crush the adaptation of alternating current is perhaps the best example of this. Personally I think Nikola Tesla was way more brilliant than Edison.

Agreed

Edison was brilliant as a conceptualizer & businessman ....but totally over-hyped... in typical Babylon Media style

[Mosiah]

I agree, Tesla, the inventor, was no joke! I'm happy they named the car after him.

[Mosiah]

Still can't agree about Musk as a great inventor. What has he done but develop existing technologies?

[Islandman]

Innovator, not inventor.

Couldn't we say the same about Steve Jobs? Most of his breakthrough products are built on existing technologies. The Apple II is perhaps the most original thing he was responsible for. The real inventor was of course Wozniak, not Jobs.

Edison was more innovator than inventor as well.

[Mosiah]

LA Lewis is an innovator.

Ok, it just got weird!

[Islandman]

Just a bit

[Time]

I agree, Tesla, the inventor, was no joke! I'm happy they named the car after him.

Tesla is probably the greatest inventory and probably the greatest scientist that mankind has ever produced. It is interesting to note that Tesla was extremely critical of relativity and of the electron as a particle creating an electric charge. There is an interesting alternate theory called the electric universe theory that eliminates the need for dark energy, dark mass, black holes and the observed problems with a fusion Sun theory. If it is ever proven that we do live in an electric universe then maybe we will finally understand Tesla and how great he was. He may have been two stages ahead of his time. I wished that he had taken a dignified approach and debated Einstein in a 'gentlemanly' manner.

[Mosiah]

When Musk or Bezos have a standard scientific unit named after dem, send call mi!

[Don1]

Tesla is probably the greatest inventory and probably the greatest scientist that mankind has ever produced. It is interesting to note that Tesla was extremely critical of relativity and of the electron as a particle creating an electric charge. There is an interesting alternate theory called the electric universe theory that eliminates the need for dark energy, dark mass, black holes and the observed problems with a fusion Sun theory. If it is ever proven that we do live in an electric universe then maybe we will finally understand Tesla and how great he was. He may have been two stages ahead of his time. I wished that he had taken a dignified approach and debated Einstein in a 'gentlemanly' manner.

Science is not settled by debate....but by mathematics

Einstein had his theorem tested and proved (largely)..Tesla hasn't....That's the difference

[Islandman]

Like many people of that level of genius Tesla had serious character flaws.

This Popular Mechanics article from 1909 which describes his vision of the future of wireless technology is an interesting read.

https://books.google.com/books?id=nN...page&q&f=false

He also strongly believed that wireless power transmission was the way to go, but was not able to make it work at any practical scale

[Time]

Science is not settled by debate....but by mathematics

Einstein had his theorem tested and proved (largely)..Tesla hasn't....That's the difference

Einstein and Bohr had some interested debates that we cherish. I am not sure that they settled anything but we still cherish them...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohr%E...nstein_debates

Tesla's practical inventions beat pure mathematical models any day. Modern society cannot function without Tesla's inventions. We can't just dismiss him.

http://www.activistpost.com/2012/01/...esla-that.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o..._Tesla_patents

Einstein may or may not be correct. I am not qualified to judge him. However, there are many brilliant people who have challenged his ideas but unfortunately his science has become a new religion and the mainstream scientific journals will not accept any challenge to his ideas. We would prefer to believe in dark energy and dark matter and other things we cannot prove rather than debate alternative theories.

[Don1]

Yuteman I'm just saying that prognostication on unproven science matters needs to be backed up by mathematical proof...then proof in the natural world... if it is to be generally accepted as valid. Otherwise it remains as conjecture

This is not to debunk Tesla's genius... but just to debunk certain elements of your prior post that indicated other than the above

[Mosiah]

Fair enough!

[Mosiah]

Where is Virgin Galactic in all of this? Are they being left behind in the cosmic dust?

[Islandman]

Well Einstein was without doubt correct about many of the stranger aspects aspects of relativity, such as time slowing down and light bending in response to gravity. Those have been tested out in the field again and again and held up.

One could certainly say his theories are not complete and there may well be a better model out there which could fill in some of those gaps you refer to. This is no different from Newtons Universal law which served us well for a few centuries but came up short when taken to the extreme conditions of space.

What Einstein was proposing was so mind boggling at the time (and still is) that there is no way it would have received acceptance without validation in the field. This is the beauty of the scientific method. Debate is good but ultimately some amount of testing and validation is needed.