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  • #16
    Two completely different groups. They fought with al-Quaeda during the Iraqi insurgence & then sent into fighters into Syria when the civil war started. al-Quaeda has pretty much distanced itself from them a couple years ago. ISIS (ISIL) operates & has "influence" in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Lebanon & Nigeria, so they pretty much capitalize where there is trouble & chaos.
    Last edited by USAF; May 22, 2015, 05:01 PM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Rockman View Post
      Karl it is all cosmetic,do you remember what happened to Saddam's soldiers when they invaded rich Kuwait?
      I ran is the game changer,and apparently Obama kbew that would be the case from the get go,ergo he did battle with those people that vehemently objected to any dialogue between the US and Iran.
      Well?
      I think I posted on Obama's strategy as I saw it some time past.

      I still think it is, "The peoples of the various countries have to solve their problems. Not the US troops!" I rather like that policy. ...that additional part of the policy is, "set foot innah fi mi country or threaten her in any way and there shall be hell to pay!!!"

      Incidentally that brings me to the GOPers' and Don1's objection to the gathering of the meta-data...

      Too intrusive - They know who we call and when we call and what we are talking about...blab! blab! blab!

      Two tweeny things: It does not stop that same intrusion being carried out by other nations...and...what happens when it ends and we will not know who those who mean us harm call, when they call, and what they are taking about???? Guess it is great to die preserving our privacy...even as there would be no privacy to preserve as of the day "dem lick aff wi ead"? Right?
      "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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      • #18
        Jumping around and meddling in everybody's business, as well as engaging in wars is the best & quickest way to loose that "superpower" tag.

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        • #19
          Would you give "fighter jets, helicopters, etc." to these Iraqi troops who are presently abandoning their weapons & artillery, thereby giving ISIL more fire power???

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          • #20
            I would not have taken their money ,besides,at least on the face of it,not having the blqck hawk helicopters etc is said to be the obstacle..
            In any event the democratization of Iraq army was televised for all to see during the unjustified invasions.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by USAF View Post
              Two completely different groups. They fought with al-Quaeda during the Iraqi insurgence & then sent into fighters into Syria when the civil war started. al-Quaeda has pretty much distanced itself from them a couple years ago. ISIS (ISIL) operates & has "influence" in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Lebanon & Nigeria, so they pretty much capitalize where there is trouble & chaos.
              The US in effect set the stage for the creation of ISIS via the illegal Iraq war (also the Afghan war although that is more defensible) and other regime change ops it supported throughout the Middle East which overthrew or undermined regional governments.... Egypt, Syria, Libya etc The result is absolute chaos in the region. This is in the interest of a few "folks"

              Neo-cons in the US govt system use ISIS to better engage their strategy of permanent war & chaos

              This situation is waaaayyyyy bigger than Obama... It's about the Military Industrial Complex and the Oligarchs who wield power behind the scenes

              Obama is not in control of such matters. The sooner unnu realize that the better
              Last edited by Don1; May 22, 2015, 06:10 PM.
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              • #22
                Don't believe everything you read & hear, and if they can't effectively use the artillery how would they use the Blackhawk helicopters & other sophisticated military equipment......Have you seen what has happened to the helicopters, etc. that's in Afghanistan???

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Hortical View Post
                  America is the world's leading superpower.
                  China lacks the sophistication to mobilize troops quickly.
                  Russia only sells arms, definitely not Germany.
                  LOL!!
                  TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                  Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                  D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Karl View Post
                    Well?
                    I think I posted on Obama's strategy as I saw it some time past.

                    I still think it is, "The peoples of the various countries have to solve their problems. Not the US troops!" I rather like that policy. ...that additional part of the policy is, "set foot innah fi mi country or threaten her in any way and there shall be hell to pay!!!"

                    Incidentally that brings me to the GOPers' and Don1's objection to the gathering of the meta-data...

                    Too intrusive - They know who we call and when we call and what we are talking about...blab! blab! blab!

                    Two tweeny things: It does not stop that same intrusion being carried out by other nations...and...what happens when it ends and we will not know who those who mean us harm call, when they call, and what they are taking about???? Guess it is great to die preserving our privacy...even as there would be no privacy to preserve as of the day "dem lick aff wi ead"? Right?
                    LOL!!!!!
                    TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                    Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                    D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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                    • #25
                      The root cause Karl.
                      When people say one that does the same thing repeatedly expecting different results is a fool may be missing an important point,the doer does it for the same results,we are the fools to think otherwise.

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                      • #26
                        That's exactly why the far right wants to continue financially crippling Iran, the only country, in the region, that is serious about stopping ISIL.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by USAF View Post
                          That's exactly why the far right wants to continue financially crippling Iran, the only country, in the region, that is serious about stopping ISIL.
                          Yes

                          However many so called "liberals" and "progressives" support the fcukery
                          Last edited by Don1; May 22, 2015, 06:30 PM.
                          TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                          Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                          D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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                          • #28
                            Yuh can stay deh dem want assad ded

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                            • #29
                              America needs to stay out of that civil war or middle east war ,its on europe doorsteps ,its an Islamic civil war that those in the area need to address.America jumping in will deflect the real issues.
                              THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

                              "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


                              "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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                              • #30
                                It should be demoralization instead of democratization ,I must admit the mistake itself has its merits though.
                                USAF,my guess is future attempts of getting all the arab countries to speak with one voice will always be met with weariness because this attempt by a sick group.It is therefore part of the agenda to see it runs its full course.

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