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  • Seaga to Holness - Go to the Privy Council

    Senators should rubber stamp the leader or be fired?

    http://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/n...-privy-council
    The same type of thinking that created a problem cannot be used to solve the problem.

  • #2
    Yes Andrew, follow Eddies suggestion.

    You might as well go down guns blazing
    "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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    • #3
      eddie just want to finish him off. you know how some wild animals don't like to see others suffering so they just kill dem?

      this is papa's eddies version of euthanasia!

      Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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      • #4
        Andrew can't be that stupid? Can he?

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        • #5
          a few weeks ago i would have thought not but....what a downward spiral.

          but now this is my advice to him ...

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p09xsETRV1k

          Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Gamma View Post
            a few weeks ago i would have thought not but....what a downward spiral.

            but now this is my advice to him ...

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p09xsETRV1k
            Wheeeel!

            Gamma as selecta...maaaad!


            BLACK LIVES MATTER

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            • #7
              I think Sega understands the issue and I am not sure the media and much of the audience understands the broader implication. Are we seeing the trees from the forests. The technical issue of the pre-dated letter that led to forced registration is adequately and accurately decided by the courts and on that basis Andrew should move om in one sense. The issue as I understand it is simply in a 2/3 requirement in the senate can senators have free vote or must they tow party lines. So in a perfect world we need to amend the constitution to allow that to occur if that is desired and not use unenforceable methods such as pre dated resignation letters to circumvent the process.

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              • #8
                Nah. Towing party line is an internal issue. If the constitution says that once appointed the Senators cannot be removed then that is an issue for amending the constitution. I see no need to go further.

                Headline should have read, "Seaga senda Holness to the Privy"

                Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                • #9
                  Williams and Tufton should have resigned. If someone appoint you and have no more trust in you, you should go.

                  But Holness have to realize that he is fighting a battle he can't win and even if he should win he will lose. The interpretation of the constitution is key and not "what was intended".
                  • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                  • #10
                    Signing those letters was going toward that intent. The fact however is that they now say that it was not used for it's intended purpose. That is the UNDERLYING issue apart from the fact that it is illegal. Without this challenge the public may not have known and the practice would have continued. This has been around at least since 1972!according to Seaga

                    Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                    • #11
                      A doan even think it reached the stage where the letters itself was debated,it was the fact that they were predated..
                      The ruling if the Supreme Court did not address the letters in their titality because that was not needed.My guess is there might very well be an issue with properly dated letters later on.

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                      • #12
                        It's simple, going forward if a letter such as this is presented to the GG by someone other than the signatory he has a right to ask the person about it to confirm that this is their intention . If the say yes...Or he could determine that it must be delivered to him by the signatory. Problem solved

                        Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                        • #13
                          Holness can't understand this, maybe he has another letter,power of attorney or guardianships so he can speak for them,Holness would fit in on this site perfectly.
                          THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

                          "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


                          "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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                          • #14
                            Gamma is correct here . The process of the pre datated registration is flawed, illegal and unconstitutional and the ruling clearly states it has to be delivered to the gg by the incumbent. A few things which does not make it legal but stinks of having your cake and eating it is mr Williams is an esteemed lawyer who signed the letter so did he did not know the law then? Second gamma you are saying senators voting on bloc is a party issue ' but how can it be if the party leader can't enforce it?

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                            • #15
                              This requires careful reading x . Might be bigger than you🐣

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