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    14 Caribbean nations sue Britain, Holland and France for slavery reparations that could cost hundreds of billions of pounds
    • Countries demanding compensation for 'awful' legacy of Atlantic trade
    • Have hired lawyers who won pay-out for Kenyans tortured in the 1950s
    • Britain compensated slave owners £20m in 1834 - equal to £200bn today
    • Idea of reparations in the U.S. has often surfaced, but none has been paid
    By TOM LEONARD and SIMON TOMLINSON
    PUBLISHED: 07:32 EST, 10 October 2013 | UPDATED: 02:54 EST, 11 October 2013
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    Britain is being sued with France and the Netherlands by 14 Caribbean countries demanding what could be hundreds of billions of pounds in reparations for slavery.
    Around 175 years after Britain freed its last slaves in the West Indies, an alliance of Caribbean nations is demanding to be repaid for the 'awful', lingering legacy of the Atlantic slave trade.
    Caricom, a group of 12 former British colonies together with the former French colony Haiti and the Dutch-held Suriname, believes the European governments should pay – and the UK in particular.

    Legal action: Britain, France and the Netherlands are being sued by 14 Caribbean countries for what could be billions of pounds in reparations for slavery, illustrated here in this 1861 drawing of a chain gang



    'Awful legacy': In a speech at United Nations General Assembly last month (above), Prime Minister of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Ralph Gonsalves, said European nations must pay for the slave trade


    It has hired the British law firm Leigh Day, which recently won compensation for hundreds of Kenyans tortured by the British colonial government during the Mau Mau rebellion of the 1950s.
    Caricom has not specified how much money they are seeking but senior officials have pointed out that Britain paid slave owners £20 million when it abolished slavery in 1834. That sum would be the equivalent of £200 billion today.

    More...


    In the United States, the idea of reparations has surfaced a number of times over the years, but have never been paid out.
    At the end of the Civil War, around 400,000 acres of land in Florida, Georgia and South Carolina were taken from former slave owners and earmarked for freed slaves.

    Anger: In its lawsuit, Caricom claims slavery condemned the region to a poverty that still afflicts it today


    Migration: A map shows the main transatlantic routes out of Africa during the slave trade from 1500-1900

    A look back: A map depicts the slave and non-slaveholding states at the outbreak of the Civil War, along with the dates when each non-slaveholding state legally ended slavery
    A SORRY HISTORY THAT SHIPPED UP TO 60M AFRICANS INTO SLAVERY


    Portuguese traders built sub-Saharan Africa's first permanent slave trading post at Elmina in 1492.

    It passed into Dutch and English hands and by the 18th century they shipped tens of thousands of Africans a year through 'the door of no return' onto squalid slave ships bound for plantations of the Americas.

    European traders would sail to the west coast of Africa with manufactured goods which they exchanged for people captured by African traders.
    The European merchants would then cross the Atlantic with ships full of slaves on the notorious 'Middle Passage'.
    Conditions were so torrid that many of the captors, who often had barely any space to move, did not survive the journey.
    Those who made the voyage were destined to work on plantations that produced products such as sugar or tobacco for consumption back in Europe.
    By the end of the 18th Century, campaigners called for the abolition of the trade, but this was fiercely opposed because it was so profitable.
    After years of campaigning by anti-slavery activists like politician William Wilberforce, Britain banned the trade in slaves from Africa on March 25, 1807.
    Slavery itself was not outlawed by Britain for another generation, in 1833, and the transatlantic trade continued under foreign flags for many years.
    Some estimates say as many as 60million people were shipped into bondage.



    But the decision was reversed by President Andrew Johnson after President Abraham Lincoln's assassination in 1865, it was noted by Al Jazeera America.
    In 2008, Barack Obama said he did not support reparations to the descendants of slaves, going against the views of around two dozen members of Congress who sponsored legislation to create a commission on slavery.
    In the same year, the House apologised for slavery, with the Senate following suit in 2009, but neither mentioned compensation.
    In its lawsuit, Caricom claims slavery condemned the region to a poverty that still afflicts it today.


    And they are comparing their demand to Germany recompensing Jewish people for the Holocaust and New Zealand compensating Maoris.
    'The awful legacy of these crimes against humanity ought to be repaired for the developmental benefit of our Caribbean societies and all our peoples,' said Ralph Gonsalves, the prime minister of the tiny Saint Vincent and the Grenadines.

    He called it a 'historic wrong that has to be righted'.
    Verene Shepherd, who is coordinating Jamaica’s demands for reparations, said their slave ancestors 'got nothing' when they were freed.
    'They got their freedom and they were told ‘Go develop yourselves’,' she said.
    Critics have pointed out that many of Caricom’s members are hardly poor – including millionaire havens such as the Bahamas and Barbados.
    Prime minister Tony Blair expressed regret for the 'unbearable suffering' caused by Britain’s role in slavery in 2007 but made no mention of financial compensation.
    Britain has said that paying reparations for slavery is the wrong way to address 'an historical problem'.

    Up for the fight: Caricom has hired British law firm Leigh Day, which recently won compensation for Kenyans tortured by the British colonial government during the Mau Mau rebellion of the 1950s (above)


    Caricom insists they are hoping to reach a settlement with the European countries and will only take legal action if talks collapse.


    A Caricom reparations commission has been set up to work out should be paid and how much, led by Barbados historian Sir Hilary Beckles.
    Sir Hilary says they are 'focusing' on Britain because it was the largest slave owner in the 1830s.
    'The British made the most money out of slavery and the slave trade - they got the lion’s share. And, importantly, they knew how to convert slave profits into industrial profits,' he said.
    Some Caricom countries already get financial aid from Britain and other Commonwealth countries.
    Martyn Day, the British lawyer who is advising Caricom, told the Daily Mail he doubted it would affect their membership of the Commonwealth.
    'I know they are hoping they can resolve this amicably rather than having to take matters through the courts,' he said.
    He said: 'Our advice has been that the Caribbean states should be claiming in relation to the impact of the slave trade on the Caribbean today rather than looking for reparations related to what happened to the slaves historically.'


    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2pdWOXRwu
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
    THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

    "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


    "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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    Which is right!



    BLACK LIVES MATTER

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    • #3
      Originally posted by X View Post
      14 Caribbean nations sue Britain, Holland and France for slavery reparations that could cost hundreds of billions of pounds
      • Countries demanding compensation for 'awful' legacy of Atlantic trade
      • Have hired lawyers who won pay-out for Kenyans tortured in the 1950s
      • Britain compensated slave owners £20m in 1834 - equal to £200bn today
      • Idea of reparations in the U.S. has often surfaced, but none has been paid
      By TOM LEONARD and SIMON TOMLINSON
      PUBLISHED: 07:32 EST, 10 October 2013 | UPDATED: 02:54 EST, 11 October 2013
      16,258 shares
      1392
      View
      comments



      Britain is being sued with France and the Netherlands by 14 Caribbean countries demanding what could be hundreds of billions of pounds in reparations for slavery.
      Around 175 years after Britain freed its last slaves in the West Indies, an alliance of Caribbean nations is demanding to be repaid for the 'awful', lingering legacy of the Atlantic slave trade.
      Caricom, a group of 12 former British colonies together with the former French colony Haiti and the Dutch-held Suriname, believes the European governments should pay – and the UK in particular.

      Legal action: Britain, France and the Netherlands are being sued by 14 Caribbean countries for what could be billions of pounds in reparations for slavery, illustrated here in this 1861 drawing of a chain gang



      'Awful legacy': In a speech at United Nations General Assembly last month (above), Prime Minister of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines, Ralph Gonsalves, said European nations must pay for the slave trade


      It has hired the British law firm Leigh Day, which recently won compensation for hundreds of Kenyans tortured by the British colonial government during the Mau Mau rebellion of the 1950s.
      Caricom has not specified how much money they are seeking but senior officials have pointed out that Britain paid slave owners £20 million when it abolished slavery in 1834. That sum would be the equivalent of £200 billion today.

      More...


      In the United States, the idea of reparations has surfaced a number of times over the years, but have never been paid out.
      At the end of the Civil War, around 400,000 acres of land in Florida, Georgia and South Carolina were taken from former slave owners and earmarked for freed slaves.

      Anger: In its lawsuit, Caricom claims slavery condemned the region to a poverty that still afflicts it today


      Migration: A map shows the main transatlantic routes out of Africa during the slave trade from 1500-1900

      A look back: A map depicts the slave and non-slaveholding states at the outbreak of the Civil War, along with the dates when each non-slaveholding state legally ended slavery
      A SORRY HISTORY THAT SHIPPED UP TO 60M AFRICANS INTO SLAVERY


      Portuguese traders built sub-Saharan Africa's first permanent slave trading post at Elmina in 1492.

      It passed into Dutch and English hands and by the 18th century they shipped tens of thousands of Africans a year through 'the door of no return' onto squalid slave ships bound for plantations of the Americas.

      European traders would sail to the west coast of Africa with manufactured goods which they exchanged for people captured by African traders.
      The European merchants would then cross the Atlantic with ships full of slaves on the notorious 'Middle Passage'.
      Conditions were so torrid that many of the captors, who often had barely any space to move, did not survive the journey.
      Those who made the voyage were destined to work on plantations that produced products such as sugar or tobacco for consumption back in Europe.
      By the end of the 18th Century, campaigners called for the abolition of the trade, but this was fiercely opposed because it was so profitable.
      After years of campaigning by anti-slavery activists like politician William Wilberforce, Britain banned the trade in slaves from Africa on March 25, 1807.
      Slavery itself was not outlawed by Britain for another generation, in 1833, and the transatlantic trade continued under foreign flags for many years.
      Some estimates say as many as 60million people were shipped into bondage.



      But the decision was reversed by President Andrew Johnson after President Abraham Lincoln's assassination in 1865, it was noted by Al Jazeera America.
      In 2008, Barack Obama said he did not support reparations to the descendants of slaves, going against the views of around two dozen members of Congress who sponsored legislation to create a commission on slavery.
      In the same year, the House apologised for slavery, with the Senate following suit in 2009, but neither mentioned compensation.
      In its lawsuit, Caricom claims slavery condemned the region to a poverty that still afflicts it today.


      And they are comparing their demand to Germany recompensing Jewish people for the Holocaust and New Zealand compensating Maoris.
      'The awful legacy of these crimes against humanity ought to be repaired for the developmental benefit of our Caribbean societies and all our peoples,' said Ralph Gonsalves, the prime minister of the tiny Saint Vincent and the Grenadines.

      He called it a 'historic wrong that has to be righted'.
      Verene Shepherd, who is coordinating Jamaica’s demands for reparations, said their slave ancestors 'got nothing' when they were freed.
      'They got their freedom and they were told ‘Go develop yourselves’,' she said.
      Critics have pointed out that many of Caricom’s members are hardly poor – including millionaire havens such as the Bahamas and Barbados.
      Prime minister Tony Blair expressed regret for the 'unbearable suffering' caused by Britain’s role in slavery in 2007 but made no mention of financial compensation.
      Britain has said that paying reparations for slavery is the wrong way to address 'an historical problem'.

      Up for the fight: Caricom has hired British law firm Leigh Day, which recently won compensation for Kenyans tortured by the British colonial government during the Mau Mau rebellion of the 1950s (above)


      Caricom insists they are hoping to reach a settlement with the European countries and will only take legal action if talks collapse.


      A Caricom reparations commission has been set up to work out should be paid and how much, led by Barbados historian Sir Hilary Beckles.
      Sir Hilary says they are 'focusing' on Britain because it was the largest slave owner in the 1830s.
      'The British made the most money out of slavery and the slave trade - they got the lion’s share. And, importantly, they knew how to convert slave profits into industrial profits,' he said.
      Some Caricom countries already get financial aid from Britain and other Commonwealth countries.
      Martyn Day, the British lawyer who is advising Caricom, told the Daily Mail he doubted it would affect their membership of the Commonwealth.
      'I know they are hoping they can resolve this amicably rather than having to take matters through the courts,' he said.
      He said: 'Our advice has been that the Caribbean states should be claiming in relation to the impact of the slave trade on the Caribbean today rather than looking for reparations related to what happened to the slaves historically.'


      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2pdWOXRwu
      Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
      Lee Kwan Yew will be very displeased at this quixotic Miggle Passage nonsense
      TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

      Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

      D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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      • #4
        Centuries after slavery we are trying to work out a solution the culprits,slavery was about greed,look around,nothing has changed.
        Our approach has to be different,case in point,Caricom countries are burdened by a large debt and one sided trade agreements.We could collectively refuse....
        If we start demanding reparations to be paid by gold,I am pretty sure they will simply agree to paying in cash by simply printing more money.
        Interestingly,the powers that be are bent on downplaying the numbers regarding the amount of slaves,hence I appreciate the population stats....
        We shouldn't be asking but demanding.

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        • #5
          Why on earth would you want to be paid in gold? What are you going to do with the gold once you get it? Look at it?

          Payment in US$ cash and cash equivalents is quite fine, or it could also be debt forgiveness where appropriate.

          More important is what any funds from such reparations be used for, which in my view should be infrastructure and education.
          "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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          • #6
            This is a must. long enough.
            • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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            • #7
              Yuh wish he cared... he gave us a precious couple hours of his time back in the 70's.. dem man deh well busy advising on issues of Global portent..

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              • #8
                Yuh ah one real brown-noser ...

                Yuh lick Yew footbottom tuh??... Brownin' tuh di Whirl!!
                Last edited by Don1; January 6, 2014, 06:37 PM.
                TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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                • #9
                  The stupid mental means everything to them,they will not let it go hence by demanding it they will be quicker to pay cash.
                  Reparation should be paid directly to the citizens.Slavery was government sanction hence it will likely not have a direct impact on our lives.In other words government can't be trusted to do the right thing,before you know it reparations were received but no meaningful gain regarding its citizens.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rockman View Post
                    The stupid mental means everything to them,they will not let it go hence by demanding it they will be quicker to pay cash.
                    Reparation should be paid directly to the citizens.Slavery was government sanction hence it will likely not have a direct impact on our lives.In other words government can't be trusted to do the right thing,before you know it reparations were received but no meaningful gain regarding its citizens.
                    which "citizens" would qualify for any supposed payments?
                    TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                    Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                    D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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                    • #11
                      Debt forgiveness and infrastructure development.I dread if they give it to any government directly,that would be slavery all over again.
                      THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

                      "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


                      "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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                      • #12
                        All dark skinned people.

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                        • #13
                          So the mulattos are excluded,the victims of the masters rape ?
                          THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

                          "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


                          "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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                          • #14
                            spend more time bigging up Marcus... dat might mek yuh feel bettah..

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                            • #15
                              absolutely
                              TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                              Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                              D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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