Ted Cruz is a complete waste of time. All

[Lazie]

he wants is to go in the history books. Man a tread Dr. Seuss and the type of shoes he is wearing? This is a flipping joke. If there is a shutdown all these idiots should not be paid.

[Islandman]

Is so filibustering work, talk as long as you can to stall things.

He wants to run for President and the same strategy worked for Rand Paul a few months ago so he is taking his turn now.

The Republican Party is a mess and Obama is giving them a lot of rope to hang themselves with. This is going to be interesting.

[Mosiah]

I love it!

They have already started to call Hillary Clinton No. 45!

[Lazie]

Is so filibustering work, talk as long as you can to stall things.

He wants to run for President and the same strategy worked for Rand Paul a few months ago so he is taking his turn now.

The Republican Party is a mess and Obama is giving them a lot of rope to hang themselves with. This is going to be interesting.

... but all he achieved is causing a delay in the Senate vote on the bill to fund the gov't, which pushes the country closer to a shutdown. How is that gonna affect people's retirement savings in the markets as of today?

[Mosiah]

Hillary Clinton’s Dare to Republicans

Hillary Clinton’s Dare to Republicans

by*David FreedlanderSep 24, 2013 5:05 pm EDTDuring a panel discussion at the Clinton Global Initiative on Tuesday, Clinton took on the GOP over their Obamacare threats.facebooktwittergoogle plusemail

On Tuesday, Hillary Clinton all but dared congressional Republicans to shut down the government.

“They ought to go back and read history because, I will just say, it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world for Democrats, if they tried to shut the government down. We have seen this movie before and it didn’t work out very well for those who were obstructionist.”

The comments were a reference the government shutdown of 1995, when a band of conservative Republicans in the House of Representatives, led by then–House speaker Newt Gingrich, were unable to come to a budget agreement with the Clinton White House. The public blamed the shutdown on the GOP, and the resulting disapproval helped Bill Clinton win reelection and see a pick-up of seats in the House.

Hillary Clinton made her comments to CNN host Sanjay Gupta, during a panel discussion at the Clinton Global Initiative while at the same time Ted Cruz, the Republican Senator from Texas, stood on the floor of the Senate and urged his colleagues not to waver in their opposition to the Affordable Care Act, even if it meant shutting down the government, a move that Clinton said was foolish.

“This president is not going to agree to defund health care,” she said. “If they want to shut the government down, that is on their head.”

Clinton said that Republicans should act as Democrats did during the passage of Medicare Part D, a signature health achievement of George W. Bush, which was meant to lower prescription drug prices. Democrats disagreed with the bill, she said, and “if you go back and look, [the bill] was even more unpopular than Affordable Care.”

“But you didn’t have obstructionist members of Congress. Once the vote was taken and once all the challengers were done, people said, ‘OK, let’s see if it works and if it needs to be tweaked, if you need to make some regulatory changes, OK, let’s do that.’”

Clinton conceded that “nobody is saying that it is the perfect bill,” but pointed to other large pieces of social legislation, including Social Security and Medicare, which had similar glitches, similar legislative battles, but were considered settled law once they were passed and all of the challenges ran their course. Republicans, she said, were afraid that once the bill passed it would prove too popular to undo.

“That is what some of the critics are most worried about. People will find out, ‘My gosh, we can actually do this. We better stop it before there is real-world experience teaching people how to work the system to the benefit of themselves and their families.’ That is what is really behind this.”

Clinton’s appearance on the panel was something of a homecoming. Gupta, she said, was a White House fellow assigned to the Office of the First Lady when Clinton was there. Gupta began the discussion by saying he intended to ask about the “TBD” portion of her Twitter bio, believed to be a winking reference to her future plans to run for president.

In the end, he didn’t, asking Clinton instead if she thought it was important for there to be a woman president.

Clinton said she thought it was.

[Islandman]

He is getting attention, a lot of it....you can't run for President without people knowing who you are and what you supposedly stand for.

Kill Obamacare is the rallying cry for the far right. They don't have much more than that to work with so while it is still unpopular...run wid it!

I don't expect a shutdown. Too many of the Republican leaders are ****ed off at Cruz because he is acting on his own agenda.

[Sir X]

Obama care is growing on the wing nuts,I hear them saying That fight was lost in the last election and making it an issue is out of sync with the majority wing nuts, they want jobs ,and the economy to grow,guess what its happening.