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    VAL “DOUGIE” DOUGLAS


    Photo by Judith Anderson
    “I Think Music Chose Me” – Val Douglas

    Coming from the tiny village of Broadleaf in the parish of Manchester, a place so small that Google Maps cannot find it, this man and his bass have circled the globe, bringing the music and culture of Jamaica to thousands and thousands of listeners. His incredible discography, spanning four and counting decades, includes some of the greatest recordings in reggae’s history. And it is no exaggeration to say that everyone who loves reggae has heard Val Douglas’s magical bass through his work with Dennis Brown, Bob Marley and the Wailers, Maxi Priest, and countless others.

    Valentine (Val) Douglas’ extraordinary musical odyssey began at age 2, when he moved with his family from Broadleaf to the village of Ritchies, in Clarendon where he attended primary school. His parents were schoolteachers; both were musical, so Val was exposed to music from day one. His father sang, his mother taught piano and conducted and arranged for the local church choir. Though Val, to his mother’s dismay, managed to avoid formal piano lessons, he was always an avid listener, and a skilled dancer. More to his taste was the music played by the local sound systems at the holiday dances his father kept at the school, the jonkanoo band that played in the street on Christmas and Boxing Day, and tenor saxophonist Mass Reuben.

    At age 10 1/2 Val began attending secondary school at St. George’s College in Kingston, a noted incubator of musical talent. Here “Dougy” met and rubbed shoulders with legendary musicians Mikey Chung, Geoffrey Chung, Robbie Lyn, Pluto Shervington, Roger Bethelmy, Garth Creary. All would be comrades and collaborators later. Things accelerated at age 13 when Dougy’s brother Denzil brought home an acoustic guitar, borrowed from Reverend Harrison of the Baptist Church a mile away. Dougy was so fascinated by the new instrument that Denzil soon bought him a guitar of his own.

    The next five years found Val teaching himself chord structures and progressions on a very challenging guitar. This difficult instrument was a blessing in disguise, as playing it forced him to develop the exceptional hand strength and control that characterize his bass playing. Dougy’s interest in the piano developed as well, because whenever he went home for holidays he had the choice of playing the piano at home, the piano at his parents’ school, or the organ in the church…they were all in the same yard.

    After graduating from “George’s”, Val, who is as proficient an auto mechanic as he is a musician, decided that he would attend CAST (now UTECH) to pursue an engineering degree. However, fate had other plans. A local band, the Mighty Mystics, had an upcoming show and their bass player suddenly became ill. No other bassists were available; then someone suggested that Dougy give it a try. With one day’s notice Val learned the music and successfully played the show. The piano-lesson-dodging, guitar-strumming engineering student was now a bass player.

    Word spread quickly, and calls for Val’s services came thick and fast in the musical hotbed that was Kingston at the time. Val was soon too busy playing to do his final year at CAST, though he retained an interest in machinery and technology that persists to this day. Soon he was playing with a series of bands that read like an honor roll of Jamaican music: The Fabulous Falcons, The Mighty Virtues, The Now Generation, The Caribs, The United Stars, Burning Spear, The Sonny Bradshaw Seven, CrossRoads, Monyaka, his own band the A-Team, Maxi Priest, Toots and the Maytals, the Congos, and currently the legendary Skatalites.

    Val has performed live with nearly every important classic reggae artist of the last forty years, and many of the important dance hall artists as well. His sterling live performances inevitably led Val into studio work. Armed with his legendary “boat anchor” Fender Telecaster bass, which he customized himself, Dougy soon began playing on an astonishing string of hit recordings that continues to this day.

    His first Jamaican Top Ten hit was “Thinking” by Ken Boothe; his first British chart record was “Sometimes” by John Holt. Other hits followed: Beat Down Babylon, Breakfast in Bed, Dat, Goro City, Is it Because I’m Black, Love Has Found Its Way, Mawga Dog, Outback Ska, Pitta Patta, Where He Leads Me, Elsaida, Punky Reggae Party, Silhouettes, Someone Loves You Honey, So Much Trouble In The World, Tears on My Pillow, Top Ranking, Yim Mas Gan, Your Honor, Let Me Down Easy, Wake Up And Live, Love Without Feeling, Pave The Way, Jah Heavy Load, Concentration, Baby Don’t Do It, Fly Your Natty Dread, This Time Baby, Play De Music, Black Green and Gold, Love Don’t Love Nobody, I Miss You, Ride Natty Ride.

    And the list continues: in January 2011 Val was in the studio with multi-platinum artist Shaggy laying down tracks for his next release.

    Val’s remarkable bass playing has been influenced by James Jamerson, Don Drummond, Lloyd Knibb, Bumps Jackson (of Byron Lee & the Dragonaires), Mikey and Geoffrey Chung, Jackie Jackson, Aston Barrett, Robbie Shakespeare, Eric Gale, Stanley Clarke, Stevie Wonder, the Skatalites, and the group Chicago. But his relentlessly inventive, lyrical, and melodic lines are all his own. They manage to be profoundly danceable, emotionally evocative, and musically intriguing simultaneously. Many musicians are fine live performers, others are great studio players. Dougy excels at both, lighting up the bandstand or studio as soon as he plugs in his bass. There are more famous reggae bassists than Dougy. But there is none more respected by his fellow bassists, other musicians, and artists.

    Val lists as some of the highlights of his career meeting Reverend Jesse Jackson, the Honorable Portia Simpson and the Honorable Bruce Golding; visiting kids in a barrio in Medellin at the invitation of the mayor of Medellin (Colombia); playing for the City of London Against Racism festival; playing for Prince Albert of Monaco at the Bal de la Rose; the 1991 and 1994 Sunsplash World Tours; and all his tours of Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and Russia. In addition to being a world-class bassist in a variety of idioms, not just reggae, Dougy is also a superb bandleader, arranger, producer, and most important of all, an involved and dedicated parent.

    Val is a man of great personal integrity and dignity. He is aware of all that he has achieved in music and in life, but none of it has turned his head. Avoiding the pitfalls that have claimed so many artists and musicians, Dougy still retains the warmth, openness, and respect for life, people, and family that he learned as a boy in Clarendon. Stellar studio experience with : Dennis Brown, Bob Marley, Peter Tosh, Skatalites, Abyssinians, Congos, Rox, Johnny Nash, Patrice, Maxi Priest, Manu Dibango, Meditations, Chosen Few, Ken Boothe, Beres Hammond, Ernie Smith, Pablo Moses, Pluto Shervington, Ernest Ranglin, Eric Gale, Royal Rasses, Now Generation, etc.

    SELECTED DISCOGRAPHY
    From Roots Archives

    Abyssinians – Declaration Of Dub [1972-76]
    Abyssinians – Satta Massagana [1976]
    B.B. Seaton – Colour Is Not The Answer [1976]
    B.B. Seaton – I’m Aware Of Love [1979]
    Barry Biggs – Sincerely [1977]
    Beres Hammond – Beres Hammond [1985]
    Beres Hammond – Let’s Make A Song [1981]
    Beres Hammond – Soul Reggae [1976]
    Cedric Myton & Congos – Face The Music [1981]
    Delroy Wilson – Sarge [1976]
    Dennis Brown – Love Has Found Its Way [1982]
    Derrick Harriott – Born To Love You [1979]
    Derrick Harriott & Revolutionaries – Reggae Chart Busters Seventies Style [1977]
    Dobby Dobson – Sweet Dreams [1978]
    Ernest Ranglin – Ranglin Roots [1976]
    Ernie Smith – Ernie … Smith, That Is [1972]
    Ernie Smith – For The Good Times [197X]
    Ernie Smith – Life Is Just For Living [1974]
    Glen Brown & King Tubby – Termination Dub [1973-79]
    Glenmore Brown – Dub From The South East [1972-76]
    Harold Butler – Gold Connection [1978]
    Harry Mudie & King Tubby – Harry Mudie Meet King Tubby’s In Dub Conference Vol 1 [1976]
    Harry Mudie & King Tubby – Harry Mudie Meet King Tubby’s In Dub Conference Vol 2 [1977]
    Harry Mudie & King Tubby – Harry Mudie Meet King Tubby’s In Dub Conference Vol 3 [1978]
    Impact All Stars – Randy’s Dub [1975]
    Jah Ruby – Dread Affairs [1977]
    Joe Higgs – Life Of Contradiction [1975]
    June Lodge Featuring Prince Mohammed – Someone Loves You Honey [1982]
    Ken Boothe – Blood Brothers [1976]
    Ken Boothe – Imagine [1986]
    Lord Laro – Yu Have Fe Dread [198X]
    Mark Holder – Cameo [1976]
    Mark Holder – Today Tomorrow And Always [1974]
    Massive Dread – Strictly … Bubbling [1982]
    Meditations – Greatest Hits [197X]
    Meditations – Guidance [1978]
    Mikey Ras Starr – Fire & Rain [1975-84]
    Negril – Negril [1975]
    Pablo Moses – Pave The Way [1981]
    Prince Lincoln & Rasses – Vortex Dub [197X-8X]
    Royal Rasses Featuring Prince Lincoln Thompson – Humanity [1979]
    The ****-es – Experience [1979]
    The ****-es Band & Prince Jammy – Harder Na **** [1979]
    Tinga Stewarts – I Feel The Music [1981]
    Tyrone Taylor – Cottage In Negril [1983]
    Wayne Jarrett – Inner Circle [1984]
    Welton Irie – Ghettoman Corner [1977]
    Yellowman – Jack Sprat [1982]

    - See more at: http://www.skatalites.com/the-band/v....ZfTCehwX.dpuf
    Last edited by Mosiah; July 23, 2013, 05:52 AM. Reason: question sign missing!


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  • #2
    Wonderful Post! Thanks

    Mo, of course I know about bass player Val Douglas (lol). Val is unquestionably one of the really important figures in Jamaica’s musical history. As a studio bass player, he is right up there with the other studio greats like Leroy Sibbles and Jackie Jackson. (Jackie, by the way, was the bass player on Paul Simon’s smash reggae hit, “Mother and Child Reunion.”)

    Val Douglas is a seminal figure and one of the true giants in Jamaican music history, and his work should be essential listening for music students, in my opinion. These are the trailblazers who today’s young Jamaican musicians should ensure that they are aware of.

    Thanks for posting this very interesting article.


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    • #3
      Jamaica's Great Bass Players

      My all-time favorite Jamaican bass players are, without question, Glen Browne, Rohan Reid and Dwayne Livingstone. These three go beyond the rather simplistic boundaries of reggae, and are superbly accomplished in the more demanding genres of jazz and funk. I also admire Mikey Fletcher, a classically trained guitarist who is an accomplished bassist in several genres, including jazz, funk and reggae.

      The four bass players above have developed techniques that leave the average bass player scratching his head in amazement!

      Check out, for example, Dwayne Lingstone on the well known gospel song, “Magnify Him”: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL-7C1vhN_Q

      However, if I were asked to name the three most important bass players in Jamaica’s musical development, there is no question in my mind that they would be (in alphabetical order): Val Douglas, Jackie Jackson and Leroy Sibbles. These three bass players are seminal figures in the development of rocksteady and reggae.



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      • #4
        Music Thread

        This thread isn’t going to die without some relevant detailed discussion! So, up to the top we go!!

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        • #5
          I couldn't agree more. I'm very proud of my cousin, Val.



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          • #6
            You Should Be Proud!

            Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
            I couldn't agree more. I'm very proud of my cousin, Val.

            I just saw this post by you while scrolling down, Mo. I had completely forgotten about this thread.

            You have every right to be proud! If I was a relative of his, then I too would be very proud!

            In fact, I’m happy that you posted a list of the credits for Val Douglas in your thread opener. Sometimes when I hit out at dancehall, it’s not because I cannot accept a different style of music, but it is that I grew up listening to genuine stalwarts like Val Douglas! People like Val are indisputably talented, technically proficient and highly creative musicians! His body of work is testament to what I’m saying here.

            Jamaicans have no idea what they have lost in this era of computer-generated music! (Well, a few Jamaicans do, as evidenced, for example, by the posts from people like X and TDowl and HL.)


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            • #7
              Bass players never get enough credit. The bass line form a major part of any good hit but bass players with the exception of Derrick Barnett and the bass player Dr.Paul from Riddim Kings band back in the days, most don't like the spotlight and just do their thing. He also played on one Janat Jacksons song.

              Unlike most Riddim guitarist or lead guitarist who usually take centerstage, bass players just chill. Val credit is there to show his work. Nuff Bass player I have to give respect to as it a the foundation of any good reggae music.
              • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                VAL “DOUGIE” DOUGLAS


                Photo by Judith Anderson
                “I Think Music Chose Me” – Val Douglas

                Coming from the tiny village of Broadleaf in the parish of Manchester, a place so small that Google Maps cannot find it, this man and his bass have circled the globe, bringing the music and culture of Jamaica to thousands and thousands of listeners. His incredible discography, spanning four and counting decades, includes some of the greatest recordings in reggae’s history. And it is no exaggeration to say that everyone who loves reggae has heard Val Douglas’s magical bass through his work with Dennis Brown, Bob Marley and the Wailers, Maxi Priest, and countless others.

                Valentine (Val) Douglas’ extraordinary musical odyssey began at age 2, when he moved with his family from Broadleaf to the village of Ritchies, in Clarendon where he attended primary school. His parents were schoolteachers; both were musical, so Val was exposed to music from day one. His father sang, his mother taught piano and conducted and arranged for the local church choir. Though Val, to his mother’s dismay, managed to avoid formal piano lessons, he was always an avid listener, and a skilled dancer. More to his taste was the music played by the local sound systems at the holiday dances his father kept at the school, the jonkanoo band that played in the street on Christmas and Boxing Day, and tenor saxophonist Mass Reuben.

                At age 10 1/2 Val began attending secondary school at St. George’s College in Kingston, a noted incubator of musical talent. Here “Dougy” met and rubbed shoulders with legendary musicians Mikey Chung, Geoffrey Chung, Robbie Lyn, Pluto Shervington, Roger Bethelmy, Garth Creary. All would be comrades and collaborators later. Things accelerated at age 13 when Dougy’s brother Denzil brought home an acoustic guitar, borrowed from Reverend Harrison of the Baptist Church a mile away. Dougy was so fascinated by the new instrument that Denzil soon bought him a guitar of his own.

                The next five years found Val teaching himself chord structures and progressions on a very challenging guitar. This difficult instrument was a blessing in disguise, as playing it forced him to develop the exceptional hand strength and control that characterize his bass playing. Dougy’s interest in the piano developed as well, because whenever he went home for holidays he had the choice of playing the piano at home, the piano at his parents’ school, or the organ in the church…they were all in the same yard.

                After graduating from “George’s”, Val, who is as proficient an auto mechanic as he is a musician, decided that he would attend CAST (now UTECH) to pursue an engineering degree. However, fate had other plans. A local band, the Mighty Mystics, had an upcoming show and their bass player suddenly became ill. No other bassists were available; then someone suggested that Dougy give it a try. With one day’s notice Val learned the music and successfully played the show. The piano-lesson-dodging, guitar-strumming engineering student was now a bass player.

                Word spread quickly, and calls for Val’s services came thick and fast in the musical hotbed that was Kingston at the time. Val was soon too busy playing to do his final year at CAST, though he retained an interest in machinery and technology that persists to this day. Soon he was playing with a series of bands that read like an honor roll of Jamaican music: The Fabulous Falcons, The Mighty Virtues, The Now Generation, The Caribs, The United Stars, Burning Spear, The Sonny Bradshaw Seven, CrossRoads, Monyaka, his own band the A-Team, Maxi Priest, Toots and the Maytals, the Congos, and currently the legendary Skatalites.

                Val has performed live with nearly every important classic reggae artist of the last forty years, and many of the important dance hall artists as well. His sterling live performances inevitably led Val into studio work. Armed with his legendary “boat anchor” Fender Telecaster bass, which he customized himself, Dougy soon began playing on an astonishing string of hit recordings that continues to this day.

                His first Jamaican Top Ten hit was “Thinking” by Ken Boothe; his first British chart record was “Sometimes” by John Holt. Other hits followed: Beat Down Babylon, Breakfast in Bed, Dat, Goro City, Is it Because I’m Black, Love Has Found Its Way, Mawga Dog, Outback Ska, Pitta Patta, Where He Leads Me, Elsaida, Punky Reggae Party, Silhouettes, Someone Loves You Honey, So Much Trouble In The World, Tears on My Pillow, Top Ranking, Yim Mas Gan, Your Honor, Let Me Down Easy, Wake Up And Live, Love Without Feeling, Pave The Way, Jah Heavy Load, Concentration, Baby Don’t Do It, Fly Your Natty Dread, This Time Baby, Play De Music, Black Green and Gold, Love Don’t Love Nobody, I Miss You, Ride Natty Ride.

                And the list continues: in January 2011 Val was in the studio with multi-platinum artist Shaggy laying down tracks for his next release.

                Val’s remarkable bass playing has been influenced by James Jamerson, Don Drummond, Lloyd Knibb, Bumps Jackson (of Byron Lee & the Dragonaires), Mikey and Geoffrey Chung, Jackie Jackson, Aston Barrett, Robbie Shakespeare, Eric Gale, Stanley Clarke, Stevie Wonder, the Skatalites, and the group Chicago. But his relentlessly inventive, lyrical, and melodic lines are all his own. They manage to be profoundly danceable, emotionally evocative, and musically intriguing simultaneously. Many musicians are fine live performers, others are great studio players. Dougy excels at both, lighting up the bandstand or studio as soon as he plugs in his bass. There are more famous reggae bassists than Dougy. But there is none more respected by his fellow bassists, other musicians, and artists.

                Val lists as some of the highlights of his career meeting Reverend Jesse Jackson, the Honorable Portia Simpson and the Honorable Bruce Golding; visiting kids in a barrio in Medellin at the invitation of the mayor of Medellin (Colombia); playing for the City of London Against Racism festival; playing for Prince Albert of Monaco at the Bal de la Rose; the 1991 and 1994 Sunsplash World Tours; and all his tours of Japan, Australia, New Zealand, and Russia. In addition to being a world-class bassist in a variety of idioms, not just reggae, Dougy is also a superb bandleader, arranger, producer, and most important of all, an involved and dedicated parent.

                Val is a man of great personal integrity and dignity. He is aware of all that he has achieved in music and in life, but none of it has turned his head. Avoiding the pitfalls that have claimed so many artists and musicians, Dougy still retains the warmth, openness, and respect for life, people, and family that he learned as a boy in Clarendon. Stellar studio experience with : Dennis Brown, Bob Marley, Peter Tosh, Skatalites, Abyssinians, Congos, Rox, Johnny Nash, Patrice, Maxi Priest, Manu Dibango, Meditations, Chosen Few, Ken Boothe, Beres Hammond, Ernie Smith, Pablo Moses, Pluto Shervington, Ernest Ranglin, Eric Gale, Royal Rasses, Now Generation, etc.

                SELECTED DISCOGRAPHY
                From Roots Archives

                Abyssinians – Declaration Of Dub [1972-76]
                Abyssinians – Satta Massagana [1976]
                B.B. Seaton – Colour Is Not The Answer [1976]
                B.B. Seaton – I’m Aware Of Love [1979]
                Barry Biggs – Sincerely [1977]
                Beres Hammond – Beres Hammond [1985]
                Beres Hammond – Let’s Make A Song [1981]
                Beres Hammond – Soul Reggae [1976]
                Cedric Myton & Congos – Face The Music [1981]
                Delroy Wilson – Sarge [1976]
                Dennis Brown – Love Has Found Its Way [1982]
                Derrick Harriott – Born To Love You [1979]
                Derrick Harriott & Revolutionaries – Reggae Chart Busters Seventies Style [1977]
                Dobby Dobson – Sweet Dreams [1978]
                Ernest Ranglin – Ranglin Roots [1976]
                Ernie Smith – Ernie … Smith, That Is [1972]
                Ernie Smith – For The Good Times [197X]
                Ernie Smith – Life Is Just For Living [1974]
                Glen Brown & King Tubby – Termination Dub [1973-79]
                Glenmore Brown – Dub From The South East [1972-76]
                Harold Butler – Gold Connection [1978]
                Harry Mudie & King Tubby – Harry Mudie Meet King Tubby’s In Dub Conference Vol 1 [1976]
                Harry Mudie & King Tubby – Harry Mudie Meet King Tubby’s In Dub Conference Vol 2 [1977]
                Harry Mudie & King Tubby – Harry Mudie Meet King Tubby’s In Dub Conference Vol 3 [1978]
                Impact All Stars – Randy’s Dub [1975]
                Jah Ruby – Dread Affairs [1977]
                Joe Higgs – Life Of Contradiction [1975]
                June Lodge Featuring Prince Mohammed – Someone Loves You Honey [1982]
                Ken Boothe – Blood Brothers [1976]
                Ken Boothe – Imagine [1986]
                Lord Laro – Yu Have Fe Dread [198X]
                Mark Holder – Cameo [1976]
                Mark Holder – Today Tomorrow And Always [1974]
                Massive Dread – Strictly … Bubbling [1982]
                Meditations – Greatest Hits [197X]
                Meditations – Guidance [1978]
                Mikey Ras Starr – Fire & Rain [1975-84]
                Negril – Negril [1975]
                Pablo Moses – Pave The Way [1981]
                Prince Lincoln & Rasses – Vortex Dub [197X-8X]
                Royal Rasses Featuring Prince Lincoln Thompson – Humanity [1979]
                The ****-es – Experience [1979]
                The ****-es Band & Prince Jammy – Harder Na **** [1979]
                Tinga Stewarts – I Feel The Music [1981]
                Tyrone Taylor – Cottage In Negril [1983]
                Wayne Jarrett – Inner Circle [1984]
                Welton Irie – Ghettoman Corner [1977]
                Yellowman – Jack Sprat [1982]

                - See more at: http://www.skatalites.com/the-band/v....ZfTCehwX.dpuf
                Truely one of Jamaica's great and talented bassist. Nice guy and good friend of mine for many years. He, unfortunately, has a neurological problem that affects his lower extremities, so he has to be seated while playing over the last several years. Val, great great guy.

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                • #9
                  And with all his physical challenges, he never loses that smile or laughter.


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                    And with all his physical challenges, he never loses that smile or laughter.
                    That's right Mo. Really a class-act.

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                    • #11
                      You Are So Right

                      ‘Sass, you are correct that reggae bass players never get enough credit, and for the reasons you have given. They tend to just “chill” and are content to stay in the background and lay down the foundation. Bassists like Aston “Family Man” Barrett, Boris Gardiner and many others are just so easy-going on stage.

                      Derrick Barnett virtually re-invented the role of the reggae bass player onstage. Whenever I watched Sagittarius Band, it seemed as if everyone else was backing up Derrick (lol). If you remember, for example, those 1980s shows with Yellowman, you will see that Derrick’s flashy onstage personality blended well with his excellent bass playing. He was like the Jaco Pastorious of reggae (lol).

                      And Derrick influenced non-Jamaican, non-reggae musicians as well. I recall meeting this good rock guitarist in Sam Ash music store almost thirty years ago, and when we started talking about reggae he made it clear that he was bowled over by Sagittarius Band’s bass player.

                      But, like you said, ultimately it’s the guitarists (primarily those lead guitarists who happen to be extraordinary soloists) who dominate things on stage.



                      Originally posted by Assasin View Post
                      Bass players never get enough credit. The bass line form a major part of any good hit but bass players with the exception of Derrick Barnett and the bass player Dr.Paul from Riddim Kings band back in the days, most don't like the spotlight and just do their thing. He also played on one Janat Jacksons song.

                      Unlike most Riddim guitarist or lead guitarist who usually take centerstage, bass players just chill. Val credit is there to show his work. Nuff Bass player I have to give respect to as it a the foundation of any good reggae music.

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                      • #12
                        My mother informs me that my grandfather, her father, is from Broadleaf. The family name isn't Douglas though
                        Peter R

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