Student achievement in Jamaica - It's complicated!

[Don1]

Mi dun explain di misleading, disingenuous & self-serving element areddy... repeatedly

If yuh nuh getti by now furda instruction on dat matta is futile

Have a noice day

[Muadib]

The piece did not address any implementation weaknesses of any of the Education policy directives.. that was not the objective...

Your rabid proclamations of misleading, disingenuous and self-serving are quite misplaced..

Yuh wrang and strang again DonUno... looking like a habit..

[Karl]

Problems with secondary education are mere symptoms....the core deficiency is at the primary level and in homes where socialization is poor

Building more "traditional" high schools as this writer suggests will not solve the problem unless those schools are able to spend multiple millions annually on academic remediation and basic support like tuition waivers, food subsidies, job & family life counseling, extra-curricular activities etc for their students. Schools with an inadequate quality intake have to replicate a positive home environment nowadays. Of course that won't occur.

The primary level must be reconstructed and capitalized adequately first to produce a quality intake for secondary schools

But Jamaicans usually have it a$$ backwards...putting the cart before the horse

Cheaper to 'do right' from early childhood education level & primary education level such that the intake at the secondary 'readi'. ...however, nuff-nuff work needs to be done in those secondary high schools 'classrooms' and more places need to be found.

[Don1]

yes...but just building structures and installing the "normal" Jamaican HS environment is setting up many if not most for failure

[Karl]

Agreed!

[Don1]

Implementation weaknesses?? LOL...mi belly!!! At dat euphemism yuh drap pon massive corruption?? Mi haffi memba dat...noice

Obviously it did not address those "implementation weaknesses" ...it sought to give persons the impression dat di program doubled the secondary school count...it did not.

At only 50% on the delivery side the program was an unmitigated disaster due to politricks

[Muadib]

The article did not seek to do anything other than describe weaknesses observed and the Policy Decisions made to attempt to address them in the Journey to 'Free Education'..

Are you familiar with the Term Policy ?

[Don1]

The article did not seek to do anything other than describe weaknesses observed and the Policy Decisions made to attempt to address them in the Journey to 'Free Education'..

Are you familiar with the Term Policy ?

Yes... I am...but yuh nuh familiar wid skillful sophistry...Vampiya style Vampiya was interested in describing weaknesses...but only those not related to the JLP

Here's Vamp on the Common Entrance..a PNP creation:

However, the result did not match the expectation or intent. By 1961, 20,000 students were sitting the CEE. Of that total, only 978 or 46 per cent of 2,133 free places to secondary schools were won by students attending primary schools, while 1,155 or 54 per cent from preparatory schools received awards. Analysis of these results indicated that only one in 86 students from primary schools had a chance of winning a free place as compared to one in four students from preparatory schools. Another conclusion can be drawn: 29 per cent of the students from private schools were successful as compared to 7 per cent of those originating from primary schools.

Fair enuff

Now here's Vamp on the Edwin Allen World Bank disaster:

<Edwin Allen introduced a sweeping plan for education reforms in 1966 which he entitled, "New Deal for Education in Independent Jamaica". He announced an agreement with the World Bank to construct 50 new secondary schools to augment the existing 47 schools at secondary level; forty primary schools by the end of 1967 and an increase in the annual output of trained teachers from 350 to 1,000 by 1969. This was the first project of the World Bank in secondary education anywhere. By more than doubling the number of secondary places, this would considerably increase the enrolment into secondary schools

Disingenuous omission of the actual disastrous results...tribal

So Vamp can't muster the intellectual honesty to perform a similar critical analysis on the JLP World Bank disaster...it took a COE to do that:

No doubt your tribal leanings will extinguish any critical analysis....fret nat,,,wi expec dat

[Muadib]

1961 !!

But mi tink is 1962 wi get independent ??!

lol !

Yuh ah stretch hard.. mind yuh tear sumting..!

[Don1]

1961 !!

But mi tink is 1962 wi get independent ??!

lol !

Yuh ah stretch hard.. mind yuh tear sumting..!

Yuh ah eediat?? Common Entrance start fram 1957 unda Norman Manley premiership

But dat nuh matta...di Vampiya's sophistry an dis-ingenuity is clear... mi sure im ketch nuff peeple wid dat

[Muadib]

Wheh yuh seh.. man a play politics wid party from before independence !!

lol !.. yuh ah try haaard..

[Muadib]

It is a policy discussion.. how Policy changed to meet observed problems in the system... and what 'external' factors guided Policy..

Yuh have sense ??!

[Don1]

yuh green drawers ah show my yute... PULL UP!!

[Muadib]

lol !.. if anyting is your household tendencies getting the better of yuh..

ah nuh me post di article..

Mi ask Jawge one question and it get yuh all out of sorts..