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    One of the Best views I've seen so far.....Weh unuh seh, Bruce fi PM again since dudus gone..Serioulsy, Bruce is miles ahead of the crop we have now...too bad he got mixed with Dudus


    Gleaner
    Gov't talking nonsense, says Golding
    Former PM insists $44-b drawdown will affect NHT’s ability to provide benefits


    Wednesday, February 27, 2013


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    Former Prime Minister Bruce Golding yesterday rubbished the Government's claim that the $44-billion it intends to take out of the National Housing Trust (NHT) will not affect the agency's ability to provide houses and mortgages for its contributors.

    At the same time, Golding acknowledged that the Administration is faced with a difficult choice on how to slash the country's trillion-dollar debt, and gave a prescription as to how the Cabinet could have better handled the drawdown.


    GOLDING… 11,000 families that could have received benefits over the next four years will not now do so

    GOLDING… 11,000 families that could have received benefits over the next four years will not now do so 1/1


    "The Government insists that the extraction of these funds will not affect the NHT's ability to provide houses and mortgages to its named and uniquely numbered contributors. That is nonsense!" Golding said in an article released yesterday.

    "The $44-billion that is to be paid over to the Government is money that would otherwise be available to provide houses and mortgages to its named and uniquely numbered contributors.

    "At an average cost of $4 million per housing solution, it means that 11,000 families that could have received benefits over the next four years will not now do so. The thousands of jobs that the provision of these housing solutions would have created will not now be created," he said.

    Noting that the NHT represents an attractive store of cash because it receives $21 billion in annual contributions and earns an additional $10 billion from investments, including mortgage collections, Golding said that "a Government faced with a fiscal crisis will inevitably look to this cache of funds to bail itself out".

    However, he made a number of suggestions as to how the State could have acquired the money from the NHT "without violating the fundamental moral obligations the Government has toward the NHT".

    Among the suggestions was for the Government to utilise the method used to allow the NHT to fund the building of new barracks for the Jamaica Defence Force (JDF).

    Under that arrangement, which was finalised last December, the NHT will purchase Government lands held by the commissioner of lands for $1.69 billion. These lands will be used for future NHT housing development.

    The money will be transferred to the JDF for the project, which consists of barracks and dormitories to accommodate 1,400 soldiers, accommodations for 140 senior enlisted officers and 70 officers, storage areas, lecture rooms, and offices.

    "It is a template that could have been used to find a more appropriate solution to the current fiscal crisis," Golding said.

    Finance Minister Dr Peter Phillips's announcement two weeks ago that the Government would be withdrawing $11 billion annually for the next four years from the NHT to plug a fiscal shortfall has generated heated debate.

    Opponents of the move have said that the Government has no right to take the money, and one citizens' group has taken the Administration to court as it insists the Government is breaking the law.

    However, the Government has insisted that it had no other option, as taxpayers could not be hit with a heftier tax package than the $16-billion one announced earlier this month by Phillips.

    The NHT drawdown forms part of the measures the Government has taken to meet the International Monetary Fund's (IMF's) insistence that Jamaica complete a series of measures before its application for an extended fund facility could go to the IMF board for its stamp of approval.

    Last Sunday, Phillips said that the Government was willing to change the law in the Parliament in order to ensure that the funds can be drawn from the NHT.

    But yesterday, Golding said that the extraction of funds from the NHT must also be seen in the context not only of the NHT Act, on which the courts are now being asked to pronounce, but also of the moral obligations implicit in the management of NHT funds.

    "The NHT, as its name asserts, is a trust fund. Every cent of contributions that flows into the Trust is made by or on behalf of a person with a name and a unique number. Its purpose is to offer housing benefits for those named and uniquely numbered persons," Golding said.

    "The Government's role, exercised through the board of directors it appoints, is to manage those funds in an efficient way to ensure the maximum benefits to those named and uniquely numbered persons."

    He said he disagreed with the view advanced by some people that the income earned from investments made by the NHT constitutes a surplus that the Trust is free to disburse as it chooses.

    "It is no different from income earned from investments made by a company that properly belong to its shareholders and is not a 'surplus' to be dispensed by its managers at will," Golding said.

    Pointing out that this was not the first time that a government has raided the NHT to fund State projects, Golding said, "it is grossly unfair to the named and uniquely numbered NHT contributors, who see these NHT deductions recorded on their pay slips every week, fortnight or month, but who, despite repeated applications, have never been able to secure a benefit from the NHT. Many are told that they don't qualify. How then does the Government qualify?"



    Read more: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/...#ixzz2M89S89g6

  • #2
    Yuh ever hear Bruce when im get kick outta du jlp to the ndm,man mek sense until im reach back inna di jlp as p.m , den im tun fool again,mek im stay deh suh and preach.
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    "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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    • #3
      he is spot on.. . it is a trust fund.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Plush View Post
        One of the Best views I've seen so far.....Weh unuh seh, Bruce fi PM again since dudus gone..Serioulsy, Bruce is miles ahead of the crop we have now...too bad he got mixed with Dudus


        Gleaner
        Gov't talking nonsense, says Golding
        Former PM insists $44-b drawdown will affect NHT’s ability to provide benefits


        Wednesday, February 27, 2013


        Tweet


        Former Prime Minister Bruce Golding yesterday rubbished the Government's claim that the $44-billion it intends to take out of the National Housing Trust (NHT) will not affect the agency's ability to provide houses and mortgages for its contributors.

        At the same time, Golding acknowledged that the Administration is faced with a difficult choice on how to slash the country's trillion-dollar debt, and gave a prescription as to how the Cabinet could have better handled the drawdown.


        GOLDING… 11,000 families that could have received benefits over the next four years will not now do so

        GOLDING… 11,000 families that could have received benefits over the next four years will not now do so 1/1


        "The Government insists that the extraction of these funds will not affect the NHT's ability to provide houses and mortgages to its named and uniquely numbered contributors. That is nonsense!" Golding said in an article released yesterday.

        "The $44-billion that is to be paid over to the Government is money that would otherwise be available to provide houses and mortgages to its named and uniquely numbered contributors.

        "At an average cost of $4 million per housing solution, it means that 11,000 families that could have received benefits over the next four years will not now do so. The thousands of jobs that the provision of these housing solutions would have created will not now be created," he said.

        Noting that the NHT represents an attractive store of cash because it receives $21 billion in annual contributions and earns an additional $10 billion from investments, including mortgage collections, Golding said that "a Government faced with a fiscal crisis will inevitably look to this cache of funds to bail itself out".

        However, he made a number of suggestions as to how the State could have acquired the money from the NHT "without violating the fundamental moral obligations the Government has toward the NHT".

        Among the suggestions was for the Government to utilise the method used to allow the NHT to fund the building of new barracks for the Jamaica Defence Force (JDF).

        Under that arrangement, which was finalised last December, the NHT will purchase Government lands held by the commissioner of lands for $1.69 billion. These lands will be used for future NHT housing development.

        The money will be transferred to the JDF for the project, which consists of barracks and dormitories to accommodate 1,400 soldiers, accommodations for 140 senior enlisted officers and 70 officers, storage areas, lecture rooms, and offices.

        "It is a template that could have been used to find a more appropriate solution to the current fiscal crisis," Golding said.

        Finance Minister Dr Peter Phillips's announcement two weeks ago that the Government would be withdrawing $11 billion annually for the next four years from the NHT to plug a fiscal shortfall has generated heated debate.

        Opponents of the move have said that the Government has no right to take the money, and one citizens' group has taken the Administration to court as it insists the Government is breaking the law.

        However, the Government has insisted that it had no other option, as taxpayers could not be hit with a heftier tax package than the $16-billion one announced earlier this month by Phillips.

        The NHT drawdown forms part of the measures the Government has taken to meet the International Monetary Fund's (IMF's) insistence that Jamaica complete a series of measures before its application for an extended fund facility could go to the IMF board for its stamp of approval.

        Last Sunday, Phillips said that the Government was willing to change the law in the Parliament in order to ensure that the funds can be drawn from the NHT.

        But yesterday, Golding said that the extraction of funds from the NHT must also be seen in the context not only of the NHT Act, on which the courts are now being asked to pronounce, but also of the moral obligations implicit in the management of NHT funds.

        "The NHT, as its name asserts, is a trust fund. Every cent of contributions that flows into the Trust is made by or on behalf of a person with a name and a unique number. Its purpose is to offer housing benefits for those named and uniquely numbered persons," Golding said.

        "The Government's role, exercised through the board of directors it appoints, is to manage those funds in an efficient way to ensure the maximum benefits to those named and uniquely numbered persons."

        He said he disagreed with the view advanced by some people that the income earned from investments made by the NHT constitutes a surplus that the Trust is free to disburse as it chooses.

        "It is no different from income earned from investments made by a company that properly belong to its shareholders and is not a 'surplus' to be dispensed by its managers at will," Golding said.

        Pointing out that this was not the first time that a government has raided the NHT to fund State projects, Golding said, "it is grossly unfair to the named and uniquely numbered NHT contributors, who see these NHT deductions recorded on their pay slips every week, fortnight or month, but who, despite repeated applications, have never been able to secure a benefit from the NHT. Many are told that they don't qualify. How then does the Government qualify?"



        Read more: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/...#ixzz2M89S89g6
        ...and this is the PM Jamaicans chased out to elect Portia as PM? Nation of jokers. It is better if he keep quiet and allow people power to do dem ting.

        "too bad he got mixed with Dudus"

        Really? Bruce got mixed with Dudus? Remember, for some people, "the law is not a shackle" some are adamant they "will not allow the law to shackle dem" Bruce should have taken any of those approach.
        "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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        • #5
          Yeah glad you showed up. Bruce is giving half truths. Yes the present govt. is about to raid the people's savings to offset debts. What would Bruce do? He would have done the same thing. Germany did the same when they took back east Germany BUT the Germans are well educated with varied producing bases in their economy.

          Ja on the other hand cannot produce to replace the NHT and service the IMF loans. The NHT will be passed to the children with the hopes of good fortune in the US economy. UNless the govt. do the unthinkable. To finally ask the hotel industry to indulge in profit sharing. The same way UWI doesn't like to hear privatization it's the same way the hotel industry hates the word profit sharing. The govt. can come up with the all inclusive tax to offset the peoples' savings. This is the only sector that's making millions in profit and your boy Bruce is mum on it. Ever wonder why?

          The young people will soon figure out what I said above (if not already see Knibb students) and ja will be in for a social upheaval.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Jawge View Post
            Yeah glad you showed up. Bruce is giving half truths. Yes the present govt. is about to raid the people's savings to offset debts. What would Bruce do? He would have done the same thing. Germany did the same when they took back east Germany BUT the Germans are well educated with varied producing bases in their economy.

            Ja on the other hand cannot produce to replace the NHT and service the IMF loans. The NHT will be passed to the children with the hopes of good fortune in the US economy. UNless the govt. do the unthinkable. To finally ask the hotel industry to indulge in profit sharing. The same way UWI doesn't like to hear privatization it's the same way the hotel industry hates the word profit sharing. The govt. can come up with the all inclusive tax to offset the peoples' savings. This is the only sector that's making millions in profit and your boy Bruce is mum on it. Ever wonder why?

            The young people will soon figure out what I said above (if not already see Knibb students) and ja will be in for a social upheaval.
            Anything you say Jawge. Pity people don't get the facts before saying anything.
            "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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            • #7
              jwage if they dipped into pension funds or retirement funds would you say the same thing.. I think sometimes our politics gets in the way. I dont know much about the NHT but if its truly a TRUST fund then you should not be able to do that.. Why dem nuh sell them SUVs before them tek poop people contributed savings.

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              • #8
                Okay pleas bring the fats forward Lazie

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                • #9
                  OJ read what I said.I said yes the govt. is raiding the people's savings.You have to see that the JLP would have done the same. there is no other way out or Ja would have to default. My concern is how this will be passed to the kids. The one producing sector which takes a lot from tax payers goes by untouched. Tim for the hotel industry to truly help Ja's economy.

                  What sayest thou?

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                  • #10
                    you turn profit now. You can't answer the question without JLP? The man ask you if it is right to raid the NHT?

                    How you know what the JLP would have done? Has the JLP ever raided the NHT?
                    • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                    • #11
                      They were mentioning it. Okay tell me how your party would handle the IMF
                      in this case. Thanks.

                      The Germans raided their pension fund in order to rebuild East Germany BUT that's Germany. What and where is JA producing to put back the NHT money?

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                      • #12
                        They were mentioning it ??? lol !!

                        Provide the evidence of that... yuh embarrassed don't.. ? Mama 'P' let yuh down ?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Assasin View Post
                          you turn profit now.
                          This malapropism is rich
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                          • #14
                            Bruce should shut the fcuk up and sail off into the sunset.

                            He was an embarrassment of a PM!!!

                            Good riddance, idiot!


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                            • #15
                              Economist differs.. dat should give a thinking man pause.. unless him toe a hot him..

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