You Ungrateful Wretch![Butch Stewart]

[HL]

In the USA, unemployment rate remains a concern,some people see unemployed whites as a sign of Govt failing and with the same eyes see unemployed blacks as being lazy.
For that reason I will forever be turned off by blanketed statements depicting my race in a negative way.

Different topic Rocky...but that's ok

[Islandman]

I understand the sentiment but I say we need to "let them talk" and get on with the business of fixing the problems in our communities.

Yes there are times when protest and demonstrations against injustice are still necessary and we never have a problem getting motivated for those situations, but what about the other 300 days of the year when what is needed is tedious, less exciting work in the communities? That is where we falter and that is where most of the effort is required today to turn things around.

[Assasin]

No we have to get outa blaming others.

There are a lot of things we need to do and copy some of what these people do.

You notice how these people get their kids involved in their business and support them? Too many of us don't even want our kids nowhere our business. We don't discuss economics with our kids and want them nowhere near our businesses even when they are educated. How are we going to grow institutions?

What is wrong with Butch's very good advice? I am sure when Butch bought the little rundown hotel in Mobay many laghed at him, the rest is history.
I may not like everything Butch do but he certainly put his money where his mouth is. Butch employs a lot a Jamaicans and also have Sandals foundation doing charity work.

A lady I use to work with who didn't even go to a traditional high school at the time worked her way up to director of sales in a top hotel, regardless of the names she was called. Today she is retired and owns Glamour tour with her daughter running it. It was just voted number 1 tour company in Jamaica by a British toursim publication. Yes we need to look for oppurtunities and take it, work with others we can and build our communites and country.

We have had 50 years and we can no longer blame anybody but ourselves. We have subsituted economics with politics, we have not speak about growth productitivity and we have astate where we all want government jobs as our long term goal.

[Bricktop]

Run di track:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6Ry78viGog

[Rockman]

Yeah different topic but the nexus is misinterpretation and different standards(or level of scrutiny)being applied.
In Jamaica we have secession within secession, a few years ago we were debating Kingston being the problem for Jamaica.
Yes,we have to overcome despite..,but we must never ignore or deny inequalities plaguing our nation,or we might end up unfairly blaming ourselves )

[Reggaedoc]

Not true. The above arguments are irrelevant . Everyday it's the same victim cry "why not me". Any Jamaican can be like those mentioned above; there just too damn lazy.

Really?

[Reggaedoc]

Seem like a lot of opinions. Especially given that they have listed some families that are heavily involved in philanthropy in Jamaica. Yes some of them do look down on most Jamaicans.

I am not sure why they would be vex because Butch doesn't want to develop a place unless the govt puts in place the appropriate infrastructure for the project to be successful. He already has made money since getting the property, so he can definitely afford to wait.

Crony capitalism and parasitic capitalism is competitive capitalism?. Only in Ja!

[Reggaedoc]

Ever consider the role WE black people play in propping up others--and not ourselves?

It appears it is in our DNA to support non-black enterprises... as opposed to those owned by us. Seems we have more confidence in 'others' and not in our abilities.

Jamaica is rich for exploitation by non-blacks. They know we are our worst enemies....

This forum serves as a good case-study in our relationships.

Though we need the same things in life...we debase each other because of ego.

On the local basis...we maim and kill each other over silly differences. I read there is gang warfare in Tivoli. Wanna bet it's all about some bull-****? The non-blacks know this and laugh at our ignorance and stupidity everyday!!

As to Mr. Stewart, I respect him as a shrewd business man. Ask any 1st. year business student--why does one go into business?? The immediate answer is:........ "to make money!".

I wonder how many locals would lose their job if Mr. Stewart decided to close his many business and interest in Jamaica? What about the greater number of locals who derive indirect benefits. Mr Stewart employess purchase goods and services in their local communities.>>>>>

LAST: My Dad always remind me to count the number of fingers pointing back at me--when I point at others as excuse for me not doing the right things.

....and one corrupt administration after another play the role of chief-facilitators in the exploitation of its own poor, mostly black working taxpayers.

[Muadib]

Where is the FINSAC report ?

I hear that crippled Black Entrepreneurship and the "New Black Banking Class" in Jamaica..

I now return you to the regular scheduled "Victim of White Man" Network programming..

[Muadib]

lol !

[OJ]

they may have a point.. but the return on investment at the boscobell air port is poor if any.. so butch has a point... The reason i dont go to portland more often is i dont want to drive 2 hrs. Butch is self serving at times but both factors are in play here.

[HL]

Investment on infrastructure is long term. It takes vision. ROI will long outlast the Mr. Stewart and the current government

It's unfortunate that some can only see the benefit to Mr. Stewart. They would prefer to deny growth to the Parish and country--than to see Butch reap some benefit too.

[Assasin]

But now it a go take you one hour from Boscobell brethren. Yes while it is better an extention of the Boscobel Airport have a lot if not more for Ochi still. I would have love the Ken Jones airport but they say the runway too short and that is why they choose Boscobell.

The extension is due and make it a small commercial airport. People keep on saying the want Portland to be "high end" and I stop selling it for high end, sell it to everybody. Are we reaching the "niche" market for high end????

[Islandman]

That is exactly why i don't go to Portland very often myself.

Love the place, have roots there, lived there for a few years during my childhood, but it just takes too much effort to fit it into a short trip.

[Don1]

That is exactly why i don't go to Portland very often myself.

Love the place, have roots there, lived there for a few years during my childhood, but it just takes too much effort to fit it into a short trip.

So it's not the poor marketing of the parish that deters you?? My my