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  • Tourism's secrets revealed- But only to the Non-Nincompoops

    Hmmmm let's see...

    A. Data on cruise ship arrivals is obtained from the passenger manifest i.e. a list of all the passengers on board... Interesting but let's verify that one only needs to be on board a ship to be counted as a "tourist"... there being no need to leave the ship to be counted

    B. Oasis of the Seas makes 21 calls in 2011 and is counted as delivering 125K "tourists" to Falmouth i.e. ~6200 "tourists" per call

    C. Oasis of the Seas capacity is ~ 5400 to just over 6000... Hmmm ...that looks just about right

    D. Let's be generous and assume it's ALWAYS full and therefore carries ~6200 "tourists"....... Interesting...that matches the total number of tourists counted by the JTB for that ship. i.e. 6200 X 21 = ~125K

    E. We know empirically that a significant % of cruisers DO NOT disembark in Jamaica... So what does that mean for the counting procedure??

    F. It means that the "tourist" does not have to disembark to be counted


    An open and shut case of simple deductive reasoning...

    I rest




    Jamaica unhappy with cruise pax spending
    By Gay Nagle Myers

    Jamaica’s cruise numbers saw solid growth last year, but tourism authorities there are not pleased with the level of per-passenger spending, which trails most other major cruise destinations in the Caribbean.

    Data about Jamaica’s cruise industry are contained in the recently released Annual Travel Statistics 2011, a hefty document published by the Jamaica Tourist Board that examines all facets of visitor arrivals, hotel occupancy by room size category and visitor expenditure.

    Tourism data were compiled from embarkation/disembarkation cards filled out by visitors arriving by air and by exit surveys at the airports and at cruise ship piers.

    Data on cruise ship arrivals were obtained from the ships’ manifests.

    In many instances, the current figures are compared to figures for the years since 2007 to illustrate how well or poorly certain tourism segments are faring.

    Jamaica had solid cruise growth in 2011, welcoming more than 1.1 million passengers, a jump of 23.7% over 2010.

    The main contributing factor to the turnaround in passenger arrivals was the opening of the Falmouth pier in Trelawny in February 2011.

    In the 11 months that followed, the port of Falmouth hosted 110 cruise ship calls and was the entry point for 456,442 cruise ship passengers, or 40.6% of all passengers arriving in Jamaica. That included 21 calls by Royal Caribbean International’s Oasis of the Seas, accounting for 125,023 passengers.

    The port of Ocho Rios, which in the past provided the largest share of Jamaica’s cruise arrivals, accounted for 417,520 of total cruise passengers in 2011, or 37.1%.

    The port of Montego Bay accounted for 250,491 passengers, or 22.3%. The problem lies in how much those passengers spent in their ports of arrival. Overall gross visitor expenditure in 2011 was estimated at just over $2 billion, an increase of just 0.4% over 2010.

    Foreign visitors arriving by air spent $1.85 billion, while cruise passenger spend totaled $80 million, and nonresident Jamaicans visiting friends and family contributed $76 million.

    This means that the average tourist on holiday spent $115.74 per person per night, while cruise passengers strolling the streets of Falmouth or the vendor stalls in Montego Bay spent just $71.27.

    The level of cruise passenger spend is not sitting well with tourism officials. It represents a drop of 20%, or $16 per passenger, the lowest in 10 years, according to the JTB annual report.

    This is a disappointing payback following the opening of the much-touted Falmouth pier.

    http://www.travelweekly.com/Cruise-T...se-passengers/
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    "That included 21 calls by Royal Caribbean International’s Oasis of the Seas, accounting for 125,023 passengers. "

    This is the number that disembark and not the total numbers on the ship. get that right. If you don't desembark you are not considered a tourist.

    As the article suggest

    The port of Montego Bay accounted for 250,491 passengers, or 22.3%. The problem lies in how much those passengers spent in their ports of arrival. Overall gross visitor expenditure in 2011 was estimated at just over $2 billion, an increase of just 0.4% over 2010.

    Last edited by Assasin; December 31, 2012, 03:57 PM.
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    • #3
      what dem need tuh duh is build more road and runway...

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      • #4
        You are unable to reason properly... something I have long noticed in your arguments

        All of these conditions CANNOT be true:

        A ship with capacity of ~ 6200 makes 21 calls at a port...meaning 21 X 6200 or 125K total passengers are on board at max

        B. A big percentage of passengers DO NOT disembark

        C. JTB records 125K people as tourists...including those who stay aboard

        D. JTB records 125K tourists as embarking at the port from said ship


        What statement is NOT true? Don't be daft fellow
        Last edited by Don1; December 31, 2012, 04:04 PM.
        TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

        Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

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        • #5
          Fi di ship dem?


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          • #6
            lol
            TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

            Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

            D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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            • #7
              ask Don1.. him seh highway and runway ah di secret to Tourism..

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              • #8
                Where do you get all this data??? Do you have any idea how many doesn't disembark from each ship? Dont give me that "big percentage".

                Your reasoning is flaw and only facts can change me not your line of thinking. Thanks.
                • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                • #9
                  Listen...mi present info from an industry source...until yuh ave sitten odda dan yuh incoherent yappin yuh fi kip yuh trap quiet
                  Last edited by Don1; December 31, 2012, 04:17 PM.
                  TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                  Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                  D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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                  • #10
                    wrong again
                    TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                    Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                    D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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                    • #11
                      yuh wrong again ?

                      ok.. mi nevah waan seh it..

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                      • #12
                        Does that capacity (your figures) include crew?
                        ...and isn't the 'spend' average per passenger?

                        Guess I am just asking - (...and thinking) on how the 'spend' is calculated?

                        One thought that jumped out at me immediately - 6200 passengers...let us be ridiculous - all came ashore...or whatever number...mmmm? ...just 1? ...but the 'spend' is average amount spent?
                        Last edited by Karl; December 31, 2012, 04:15 PM.
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                        • #13
                          not names mi want, "FACT" that is all, mi bright brethren .
                          • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                          • #14
                            What you want is irrelevant...who yuh??

                            Mi nuh deh yah fi satisfy the needs of the dense
                            TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                            Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                            D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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                            • #15
                              Whey fi mi FACTS whey mi aks yuh fah di odda day?!

                              Eh?!!?


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