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    'Speak only standard English in schools'

    Published: Wednesday | December 19, 2012 0 Comments


    Rita Humphries-Lewin being robed by Dr Carol Clarke, vice-president academic affairs, at The Mico University College, before receiving her honorary degree during the institution's graduation ceremony held last Saturday at the Jamaica Conference Centre, downtown Kingston. - Ricardo Makyn/Staff Photographer






    Jodi-Ann Gilpin, Gleaner Writer


    RITA HUMPHRIES-Lewin, head of Barita Investments Limited, has plunged a dagger in the heart of the teach-patios-in-school movement, urging graduates of The Mico University College to use English language in the classrooms.


    "I urge you to speak only standard English in schools as a lot of children have not been exposed to the language. Not only do we have to compete with patois, but the patios is not what we heard from Miss Lou, which was a very beautiful and expressive dialect," said Humphries-Lewin after she was conferred with an honorary doctorate degree of education in leadership by the institution.


    "What is happening now is that the language is deemed with crudeness, crassness and vulgarity, and this is what is being planted in our children's brains at a very early age," Humphries-Lewin declared.


    Disappointment


    She also voiced her disappointment in the education system, saying that major errors could have been prevented.


    "Education has become of concern to me in recent times, because the more I get involved, is the more distressed I have become, thinking that successive governments could have allowed education to fall to the level to which we are now at."


    She further stated: "It is a little heartening that in recent years, governments have discovered that major errors have been made and as a result, remedial learning has become a major platform not only in high schools but in universities."


    As such, she urged the prospective teachers to be firm and to do their best in correcting errors that have been made.
    jodi-ann.gilpin@gleanerjm.com


    BLACK LIVES MATTER

  • #2
    ... the patios is not what we heard from Miss Lou, which was a very beautiful and expressive dialect
    It is amusing to see people rewrite history. I wonder if she was saying that about Miss Lous poems and drama in the 60s?

    Similar to when you hear certain people in the US quoting Martin Luther King today when you KNOW they considered him a disruptive force when he was alive.
    "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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    • #3
      i find it odd, that people take this patios teaching thing serious, the teachers can barely teach english given the supplies to work with , how in the world would they begin to teach patwa?
      THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

      "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


      "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by X View Post
        i find it odd, that people take this patios teaching thing serious, the teachers can barely teach english given the supplies to work with , how in the world would they begin to teach patwa?
        Huh? .... Out of curiosity, are you for or against teaching patios in school?
        "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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        • #5
          I haven't heard much talk about teaching patwa, the primary discussion recently has been mostly about experimenting with teaching children other subjects USING patwa because they are more familiar with it.
          Last edited by Islandman; December 19, 2012, 11:42 AM.
          "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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          • #6
            As an example, go to about the 1:50 mark in this video and watch a teacher intentionally teaching students in patois as part of an experiment.

            http://televisionjamaica.com/Program...x/Videos/20626
            "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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            • #7
              She speaks about it as if Miss Lou was not speaking the dialect of the people, as if Miss Lou had invented this "style".

              Having said that, I don't know anyone who uses the word "boonoonoonoos" in regular every day speech. Is that what Ms. Humphries would want us to sound like?


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              • #8
                He actually does teach some patois in part of this one.
                "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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                • #9
                  Isnt that already being done from prep to universities , I mean when we have study groups kids communicate in patwa to learn from each other , even teachers do it at times.Granted the teacher is expected to verse in english more frequently than the student.
                  THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

                  "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


                  "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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                  • #10
                    Yeah it is done in an informal way all the time but this particular video was part of a study by some academics at UWI , to determine if teaching students who don't know English well in patois instead results in them understanding more and hence performing better.
                    "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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                    • #11
                      What is there to teach about patwa ? we verse in it everyday , it would be more prudent to teach english which is needed for international communication and which we use on the occasion in jamaica.

                      I am not against it being taught at a higher educational setting i.e universities or colleges, where the student has proven he has mastered a language be it english,spanish ,portugese etc etc.

                      You see if you can communicate in a language written and orally , then that should be the prerequisite to teach and learn patwa , it has to be communicable, written and orally.

                      Lnaguage is all about comprehension , writing and oral.To teach it would take up valuable resources required to teach english, and lastly what type of patwa, Jamaican,Barbados,Trini, Guyanese,etc etc. goes back to my point ,what good is it on the international scene ?
                      THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

                      "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


                      "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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                      • #12
                        So how does that prepare them for the global world where english is the language of global commerce ?
                        THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

                        "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


                        "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by X View Post
                          What is there to teach about patwa ? we verse in it everyday , it would be more prudent to teach english which is needed for international communication and which we use on the occasion in jamaica.

                          I am not against it being taught at a higher educational setting i.e universities or colleges, where the student has proven he has mastered a language be it english,spanish ,portugese etc etc.

                          You see if you can communicate in a language written and orally , then that should be the prerequisite to teach and learn patwa , it has to be communicable, written and orally.

                          Lnaguage is all about comprehension , writing and oral.To teach it would take up valuable resources required to teach english, and lastly what type of patwa, Jamaican,Barbados,Trini, Guyanese,etc etc. goes back to my point ,what good is it on the international scene ?
                          Wow ... I had to pinch myself.
                          "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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                          • #14
                            Well , Miss Lou has been validated by history so she haffe find a way to separate what Miss Lou did from what the masses do.

                            I am not really sure if this lady is doing it consciously or not, but that is what she is doing.
                            "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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                            • #15
                              Nobody is saying teach it or use it at the expense of teaching English, the debate is whether using it more intentionally in the classroom for certain groups of students will help them to grasp concepts in other subjects like maths and science. Hence their education is advanced.

                              Clearly they need to learn and be fluent in English as well, that is not in dispute. It is basically treating English as a second language for some students.

                              You haven't been following the debate? I am surprised.
                              "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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