X for future reference this is how you should view polls:

[Islandman]

If you live in Haiti or DR and the weather experts say their models for a coming storm show tracks that look something like this:

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/col...20tracks.shtml

What do you do? Do you look at all the model tracks and decide that chances are you going to get hit, or do you decide that there are a few which miss and so hurricane models are unpredictable, inaccurate nonsense and go to the beach?

Similarly different polls use different assumptions. Hence none are going to be right on target all the time, BUT if there are enough of them which are known to have a decent track record then they usually tell a story when viewed as a whole.

Nobody uses polls more than politicians running for office.Why is Obama not wasting money in Indiana? He won it last time? Why is Romney pulling resources out of PA even though some claim he has a chance to win?
Answer: Internal polling.

[Rockman]

Islandman,when the networks(some with decent track record) called that infamous election for Gore,they(even the ones with decent track record) quickly changed their tune when Fox called it for Bush.
Look mi bredrin,to vote in PA you have to show a valid ID..Veterans can't use their ID. We know Obama's voters will be more affected than Romney's.Now even if everyone decide to get their ID, the DMV can't handle that workload.
Romney job has been done in PA, on to the next victim.
If Obama barely wins the election,I would consider it a landslide.
Bredren, dem people deh tek it to a different level.

[Islandman]

Romney not winning PA, voter suppression or not.

Put another way, if Romney win PA, the election will be a blowout fe true, but for Romney!

Obama losing momemtum but I think he has just enough to hang on. Him fighting for dear life to hold Ohio, Wi, and Iowa. If he does then he scrapes through.

N. Carolina and Virginia look lost. Florida looking dicey but there is still a chance here.

[Rockman]

Estimates have amount of people that will not be allowed to vote because of the new rule to be equal or more than Obama's margin of victory last time around.

[Islandman]

But the last I heard was that the implementation was suspended by the court until after this election, nuh so?

Granted it probably already has caused some disruption but the Dems seem to be fairly comfortable that PA will be Ok, and Karl Rove has taken his money elsewhere

[Rockman]

The is a ad on tv telling voters they will be asked for ID though it will not be required.
It is in the hand of the six justices of the supreme court since friday,typically seven judges but one was indicted on election campaign fraud.
If the panel is split,3-3, the move to have a preliminary injunction failed and ID will be required on election day in order to vote. This takes me right back to the tv ad,it has no weight.
Remember there are those ballots that will be classified as "trouble ballots'(they have a different term for it) and set aside as a result.
If it takes a majority to undo it then consider it currently implemented.

[Sir X]

Yawwwn..now Obama up by 6 in florida

NewsmaxZogby Poll: Obama Widens Florida Lead With Post-Debate Bounce
Friday, 19 Oct 2012 11:14 AM
By Jim Meyers

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President Barack Obama appears to have enjoyed a slight bounce from his performance in Tuesday night’s second presidential debate, widening his lead in Florida to 6 percentage points, according to the third of three NewsmaxZogby Tracking Polls.

Obama leads Mitt Romney 48 percent to 42 percent in the poll of 842 likely voters conducted from Tuesday through Thursday. That is up 3 percentage points from his lead in the first Florida poll conducted from Sunday through Tuesday, before the second debate.

But there is no telling how long the bounce will last — 10 percent of Florida voters are still undecided and there are 2 1/2 weeks remaining before the Nov. 6 election.

“The president had a stronger second debate by most accounts, including my own,” pollster John Zogby tells Newsmax.

“But make no mistake about it, they are still close.”

Florida is crucial to the election with 29 electoral votes.

The new poll shows that 50 percent of Florida voters “strongly approve” or “somewhat approve” of the job Obama is doing, up 2 points from the first poll, and 46 percent “strongly disapprove” or “somewhat disapprove.” But only 24 percent “strongly approve,” while 34 percent of respondents “strongly disapprove” of his job performance.

In the most recent NewsmaxZogby poll, 46 percent said Obama deserves to be re-elected, up from 43 percent in the first poll, while 43 percent said it is “time for someone new.”

But Obama’s lead among independents has slipped — they favor Obama 49 percent to 33 percent, down from a 51-to-30-percent margin in the second 3-day poll released on Thursday.

Obama has also seen his favorability among Hispanics dip, from 73 percent in the Thursday poll to 67 percent in the new poll.

Interestingly, Asian voters favor Romney by a huge margin, 61 percent to 7 percent.

Romney remains strong among households with a Union member, maintaining a 53-to-39-percent lead, compared to a 54-to-34-percent margin in the 3-day survey released on Thursday.

Romney leads in Northern Florida and along the state’s Interstate 4 corridor, while Obama leads in the South.

In the new poll, Obama leads among Democrats (88 percent-5 percent), 18-to-29-year olds (64 percent-29 percent), African-Americans (82 percent-11 percent), liberals (87 percent-9 percent), moderates (60 percent-29 percent), and both women (46 percent-40 percent) and men (50 percent-43 percent).

Romney leads among Republicans (85 percent-10 percent), conservatives (73 percent-17 percent), 50-to-64-year-olds (55 percent-37 percent), those 65 and over (47 percent-40 percent), whites (51 percent-39 percent), evangelical voters (56 percent-37 percent), and investors (57 percent-36 percent).

Despite Obama’s current lead in the Sunshine State, Zogby observes: “The president is not popular. His overall approval number just hit 50 percent in Florida.

“The president does not have a lock on Florida.”

The three-day poll was conducted online using information based on census data, voter registration figures, CIA fact books, and exit polls. Complex weighting techniques are employed to best represent the demographics of the population being surveyed.

The NewsmaxZogby Poll of Florida Likely Voters sampled 35 percent Democrats, 37 percent Republicans, and 28 percent independents; 70 percent were white, 15 percent Hispanic, and 13 percent African-American; and 15 percent were ages 18-29, 34 percent ages 30-49, 28 percent ages 50-64, and 23 percent age 65 or older.

The joint venture between Newsmax and the New York state-based pollster John Zogby is featuring tracking polls in Ohio, Florida, Virginia, and nationally right up to Election Day.


Read more on Newsmax.com: NewsmaxZogby Poll: Obama Widens Florida Lead With Post-Debate Bounce
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[Skeng DX]

follow only GGALLUP

[Sir X]

Seems they used a feeder system...

Quick points that i have used to discredit you, 1) some polls do use a feeder system, 2) They are racially insesnsitive ,3) outright biased i.e Raumsen 4) My opinion here - the wingnut support is weak-media hype and it will show on election day by a blow out,you can discard (4)

The three-day poll was conducted online using information based on census data, voter registration figures, CIA fact books, and exit polls. Complex weighting techniques are employed to best represent the demographics of the population being surveyed

Read more on Newsmax.com: NewsmaxZogby Poll: Obama Widens Florida Lead With Post-Debate Bounce
Important: Do You Support Pres. Obama's Re-Election? Vote Here Now!

[Sir X]

Why should i choose one to follow skeng,thats the mistake some make.There is no set way to do a poll,its all debatable as to how unbiased it is,simply by the question asked in its methadology.

Whats interesting here is they actually gave its methadology or some of it and i believe the above poll.

[Sir X]

I will put commonsense into it, before the 1st debate the prezi was up by 6-7 in florida ,post debate romney up by 7 ?? so Romney gained 14 points in 2 to 3 weeks to lead in florida and that poll 1st showed guess where ..on a Ramsauen linked site ,when you traced it ,it was done by a republican surrogate for a t.v station in florida.,no methadology given,none.

The president probably lost a point or 2 the 1st debate,i think he regained whatever he lost and wil open it up in the final debate.

the media pulled a coup in venezueala , the people fought back and won, whats good is the media is split in this race.

[Islandman]

Heh heh. Gwan overnight poll expert!

You a read up nuff , good work! Keep it up and you might be ready for a poll Methodology debate by 2016

[Sir X]

Fi di nervous Gall up poll man dem.....White people are less likely to be gay': Poll reveals African-American community has highest percentage of 'LGBT' adults in U.S.
Gallup survey, based on interviews with more than 121,000 people, showed that 3.4% of U.S. adults were lesbian, gay, bisexual or transgender (LGBT)
Highest proportion in black community, at 4.6%, followed by Asians (4.3%), Hispanics (4%) and Caucasians (3.2%)
Poll found 44% of LGBT adults were Democratic, and 13% Republican
By TOM LEONARD


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[Islandman]

Mek sense. Probably explains the higher level of black homophobia. LOL