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  • #16
    Dont test!
    My answers...next is your turn. Dont be perpetrating now!

    Dem a scramble fi "save" money pon Finsac Henkwiry ($20 to $30m) and train, $24m a year and a lavish $200m pon demselves. Wooiiiee!
    You will never convince people fi tighten belt when you dont lead by example.

    GOVERNMENT is to discontinue passenger rail service between Spanish Town and Linstead in St Catherine, citing monthly losses of $2 million.

    Read more: http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/...#ixzz1yT1ACDet


    Pricey Cabinet - Close To $200m Per Annum In Salaries, Allowances
    Published: Sunday | January 8, 2012240 Comments

    Tyrone Reid, Senior Staff Reporter
    Flip-flopping on her previous position on big government while she was in Opposition, Prime Minister Portia Simpson Miller has named a 28-member executive that will cost taxpayers close to $200 million per annum, at current rates, in salaries and allowances.

    According to data gleaned from a Gordon House document detailing the salaries, allowances, and reimbursable expenses payable to members of parliament (MPs) and the political directorate, the 20 members of the Cabinet will pocket $134.5 million per annum while the eight ministers of state will collectively bank $47.01 million.

    When the salaries and allowances payable to the slate of junior ministers are added to what is being paid to the members of the Cabinet, the total executive pay package balloons to $181.5 million. This does not include the salary of the attorney general, a post previously tied to that of the minister of justice.

    After naming her 18-member shadow Cabinet in May last year, Simpson Miller said if she were in government, the number would not be that high.

    "I did not announce an 18-member Cabinet. I'm not the Government," she said when asked if that would be the size of her Cabinet.

    She continued: "You would not have 18 ... I would not be giving the country a breakfront," she quipped.

    Less than a year later, Simpson Miller has unveiled a Cabinet that is bigger than her slate of shadow spokespersons.

    Critics have advanced that if Golding's 19-member Cabinet was too big, then Simpson Miller's 'breakfront' can't go through the front door.

    While in Opposition, the People's National Party (PNP) president was strident as she castigated then prime minister, Bruce Golding, for naming a 19-member Cabinet. She labelled Golding's Cabinet a breakfront and pointed out that it was one of the largest in the history of the country.

    But on Friday, Simpson Miller, now in the high seat of government after the PNP's 42 to 21 seat victory over the JLP in the late December polls, did one better than Golding.

    In September 2009, Simpson Miller challenged Golding to cut the size of his Cabinet. While addressing the People's National Party executive in Runaway Bay, St Ann, Simpson Miller said: "Don't come to us and ask for cooperation. You cannot ask the country for cooperation, Mr Prime Minister (Golding) when you continue to retain your mega-size Cabinet. I'm calling on the prime minister to do the honourable thing: Cut the size of the Cabinet now!"

    At that time, Simpson Miller also said that the Golding-led government had no moral authority to talk about reducing the size of the public sector when it had found jobs for virtually every JLP functionary.

    cut them

    "Set the example by cutting them until things are back on track, Mr Prime Minister. No more jobs for the boys," she said at the time. Simpson Miller continued her verbal attack by saying that Jamaica had seen the true colours of the JLP administration, which she described as "incompetent, inexperienced, and inadequate".

    While not being the largest in the country's history, Prime Minister Bruce Golding's 19-member Cabinet was probably the most expensive up to last Friday.

    When Golding named his Cabinet in September 2007, it was to cost the country just under $70 million per annum to cover the basic salaries of the 19 members. (Same exchange rate as now)

    However, according to the Gordon House document, effective April 1, 2009, Golding and other government MPs took a 15 per cent and 10 per cent salary cut, respectively.

    Simpson Miller and Opposition MPs refused to follow suit. She argued that Golding would have effected much more meaningful savings by slashing his 19-member Cabinet.

    The Golding executive was completed by 11 state ministers and two parliamentary secretaries. This compares to the 12-member second-tier leaders appointed by prime ministers Patterson and Simpson Miller during their tenures prior to 2007.

    Golding's naming of his second-tier leaders pushed the annual salary bill of the political directorate to over $100 million. The approximately $70 million for Cabinet members did not include all the allowances payable to them, which can run close to $700,000 per year for some ministers.

    In October 2011, Andrew Holness named a 17-member Cabinet and nine junior ministers.

    Chairman of the National Democratic Movement Peter Townsend, in a press release has described Simpson Miller's 20-member Cabinet as "excessive, extravagant, wasteful and unnecessary".

    tyrone.reid@gleanerjm.com

    PJ's 2002 Cabinet (17)

    Prime Minister $4,706,344
    Finance Minister $3,813,092
    Ministers (15) $52,959,615
    Cabinet total $61,479,051

    Bruce's 2007 Cabinet (19)

    Prime Minister $4,706,344
    Deputy PM $4,118,493
    Minister of Finance $3,813,092
    Cabinet Ministers (16) $56,490,256
    Cabinet total $69,128,185

    Salaries only

    Portia's 2006 Cabinet (14)

    Prime Minister $4,706,344
    Minister of Finance $3,813,092
    Other Cabinet Ministers (12) $42,367,692
    Cabinet total $50,887,128

    Salaries only

    Portia's 2012 Cabinet (20)

    Prime Minister $7,271,283
    Minister of Finance $5,891,212
    Other Cabinet Ministers (18) $98,186,886
    Cabinet total $111,349,381
    Last edited by Willi; June 21, 2012, 06:16 PM.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Willi View Post
      Gimmick yes, but opportunity also. Since uptown people dont tek rail, its disposible.
      Downtown centre was a PNP plan that Henry took over.
      And Henry could have scrapped it or made some adjustments. But no, he wanted his monument since Peter Phillips had his in the HWT Centre. So Henry fast-tracked the construction of the white elephant. Nevermind it did not take the 6 months it was supposed to take, but rather 2 years!!!

      The train thing needs time and commitment to get going. But putting lipstick on a century old rail car running on century old tracks was not going to cut it and we cannot afford the $2M loss every month. That money could go to the JUTC.


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      • #18
        But we can afford the $16m a month on cabinet though. I posit that the train help ordinary Jakans more!

        Yuh nuh touch the Finsac report, eh?

        And Yes, Henry FoS too. Mi naah powdah none of them.

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        • #19
          Train is way cheaper and more efficient. Why yuh think the taxis protested?????

          BTW, where your answer pon the overpriced cabinet?

          Yuh being shiftless now.

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          • #20
            Did I say we could?!? But what dem say bout two wrongs! And yuh dun know mi cuss Portia bout har cabinet arready, or yuh figget like Lazie?!?


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            • #21
              Speaking of JUTC...why are there more broken down buses in the depots than working buses...and now we are positioning to purchase MORE buses...it doesn't make any sense...

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              • #22
                Where is general trees when you need him?

                How much JUTC losing a month again?
                • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                • #23
                  that is different.. those are buses.. we can lose money there..

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                  • #24
                    so if we losing 2 million a month. How about getting more passengers and raising the fare a little bit?

                    That can't work?
                    • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                    • #25
                      My thing is if they can't repair the broken down buses, where is the money coming from to buy new buses?

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                      • #26
                        Shaw arranged a US$120m loan to purchase buses...without Cabinet approval & rushed before the election

                        Must have been a nice payoff somewhere
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                        • #27
                          No, you did. I recall.

                          The 2 wrongs not equal in size and there is a potential in the train that the bloated cabinet can never match.

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                          • #28
                            Come on now Don1...didn't we purchase new buses under the last PNP regime even though we were unable to afford the spare parts to repair the existing fleet?

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                            • #29
                              His memory fails prior to 2007... ancient History..

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                              • #30
                                This includes the almost 3 advisors a ministry? If not do we know how much they are been paid?
                                • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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