Islandman:

[HL]

I read the 'Quiet Storm" thread below.

I share all your views:

There are lots of control WE have over our destiny. Too often we rely on OTHERS to provide us with our well-being. WE blame others if our lives are not fulfilled.

WE use race too much of an excuse....it is an easy copout.

The Asian example you use is on point!! Indians make a good case-study too. Believe it or not Hispanics are making headways.

I snicker when i see when folks quote Marcus Garvey on this forum. Mr. Garvey is squirming in his grave (at some of us) at this time. Garvey was a conservative. He would be a Republican.

[Assasin]

so you don't have conserative democrats. He would be a conserative but certainly not a republican.

While Garvey had a lot of conserative traits he also was very concerned about environment and helping others so I can't say he is pure conservative.

[Islandman]

True Garvey was conservative in many of his views, as was Booker T but this modern day Republican party? Me nuh know. Me nuh even consider them to be conservative in the pure sense cause them believe in welfare and govt subsidy, but only for the rich!

I do think Booker T might have been a Republican today though. I respect him and his work still but he was more of the accomodative type.

[Assasin]

You think a everybody like have high blood pressure? Like see them lofty 401K a dwindle? and see bills a come up them wazzu?

Just the other day I was reasoning with a guy and he was telling me how many times he was going to try a business and back out. How many good near misses he had. For a massive it is just easier not to take part in the unknown and say "If I had a million dollar".

[HL]

Today's republican...maybe no.

Recall that Blacks were first republicans.

'ere's a little 'istory lesson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMX27nDsN-w

[Gamma]

so at the end of the day, despite being conservative he would not have sided with these republicans.

the definition of who is a republican is markedly different from what it used to be, a southern democrat was for all intents a republican.

forget thise lables, look a what the man stood for. despite saying that we should be self sufficent i am sure he could not deny that the existence of machinery in place to deny black people from achieving hence the back to africa movement and it is in this context that he "broke bread" with the racists. you don't want us here and we want to leave.

problem is not they wanted black people to leave, no, because cheap or free labour was still wanted, but segregation is what they were after

[Islandman]

Heh heh. True.

Nuff a we a expert inna what we "coulda do" and " a go do" and "shoulda do". Just please nuh ask we fe actually "do".

[Karl]

We all have conservative traits...
...but for the life of me I cannot understand how 1 brother of mine and 1 sister of mine support this US conservative party

crazy den, crazy mi seh!!!!

[HL]

Fully agree with you on all points.

The irony is that (from a conservative point of view) we 'appear' to be extremely self-sufficient during segregation.

Our conservative vigor was more apparent.

[Don1]

Heh heh. True.

Nuff a we a expert inna what we "coulda do" and " a go do" and "shoulda do". Just please nuh ask we fe actually "do".

So true ... wi mostly expert inna Big Chat