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    Dancehall's love affair with violence

    Mel Cooke - Dr Donna Hope-Marquis, senior lecturer, Cultural Studies, University of the West Indies (UWI), Mona Campus.
    CURTIS CAMPBELL, STAR Writer
    With the police probing into the lives of some artistes in the music industry, and the recent arrest of Vybz Kartel, the link between some dancehall artistes and crime has once again come to the fore. This link has caused many to wonder if the police are targeting artistes, or if some are really involved in crime.
    Donna Hope-Marquis, who lectures in Reggae Studies at the University of The West Indies, said, in her opinion, the alleged affiliation between dancehall artistes and gangs is because dancehall is a reflection the of society.
    "My informed opinion, based on my research in dancehall culture, is that this cannot be divorced from the fabric of everyday life in Jamaica. Jamaica has a very developed gang/gun subculture that is interwoven with the fabric of everyday life in many instances," she said.
    Hope said dancehall and its linkages to the underworld are related to its informal connections.
    "Dancehall culture's linkages with the underworld are part of our music culture's long-standing informal connections that are based on two primary facets. One, the relationship of communities that have a higher percentage of gang/gun activity with Jamaican music, including dancehall. Second, the love affair of dancehall in particular with violent and deviant activities," she said
    She also said that male artistes align themselves with gangs as they see the alignment as giving them power.
    "We are talking about male activity, and you will find that the reggae and dancehall artistes who have been involved with violent or criminal activity in different ways are all men.
    so we have to engage with the role of the gun as a tool of male power and also as a tool of security for reggae and dancehall artistes," she said.
    dancehall and crime
    While Hope sees a link between dancehall and crime, Stampede Lammie, promoter, manager and CEO of Stampede street charts, believes that some artistes have been labelled wrongly.
    According to Stampede, many artistes were born in ghettos, and it is almost impossible to separate themselves from their communities.
    "Nuff artiste come from garrison and they grow up with certain youth in the community. Some choose good way and some choose bad, but at the same time, yuh cyaah disassociate yuh-self from dem because yuh and dem grow up together," he said.
    "If yu grow up wid miss Jane son and him tun bad man, him still a go hail yuh and talk to yuh same way. Dem naah guh see a successful community member and nuh talk to dem, and that nuh mek the artiste a bad man. Him cyaah stop a bad man from hail him up or come round him," he said.
    According to Stampede, the two main assets to inner-city communities are music and sports, and if an individual becomes successful in either, it is automatic that that person will develop a huge following from that community.
    Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else - Vince Lombardi

  • #2
    It is not the following that causes the problem - it is the embracing of the following - we have a test case to dissect with the politicians.

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    • #3
      "Intellectual" Excuse?

      Originally posted by Hortical View Post
      Donna Hope-Marquis, who lectures in Reggae Studies at the University of The West Indies, said, in her opinion, the alleged affiliation between dancehall artistes and gangs is because dancehall is a reflection the of society.
      "My informed opinion, based on my research in dancehall culture, is that this cannot be divorced from the fabric of everyday life in Jamaica. Jamaica has a very developed gang/gun subculture that is interwoven with the fabric of everyday life in many instances," she said.
      I’m slowly retiring from my habit of making regular posts on dancehall music, as there is only so much that an individual can do. The fact is that my very first post on this forum (the old version) way back in 2002 was made as a heated response to Mosiah on the subject of dancehall and what I saw then (and even more so now) as its overwhelmingly negative effect on the socio-economic fabric of Jamaican society. Nine years later, I’ve become just a bit tired of repeatedly commenting on this subject while watching the ever increasing spiritual and moral degradation of my native land .

      My question now, therefore, is a somewhat abstract one, and it is this: Does dancehall “mirror our society,” or does dancehall help to “shape our society”?

      I’m aware that this is a sort of philosophical “chicken-or-eggs-first?” postulation, but I’m compelled to ask this question in the face of this so-called “expert” on dancehall music, that is, the lady I quoted above.

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      • #4
        The answer to your questions - dancehall mirrors our society and also shapes it.

        Can't get into a deeper discussion at the moment.


        BLACK LIVES MATTER

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        • #5
          I agree. With that said if there is a will, the producers of and financiers of dancehall music can effect change to both the music and in the longterm help to create a better society

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          • #6
            Well said.
            "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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            • #7
              You are really looking to producers of music to create a better society?
              We always seem to enjoy blaming those in the music industry for the ills of society.
              Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else - Vince Lombardi

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              • #8
                to HELP create a better society ... what is wrong wit that? don't they live in the society too? i think it is foolhardy to suggest that they do not have an influence .....

                Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                • #9
                  No one is disputing dancehall artists impact on society, however, this is just another attempt to divert attention from the political leaders, who indeed are responsible for many of the ills in Jamaican society.
                  Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else - Vince Lombardi

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                  • #10
                    how can it be a diversion if it is true? in addition, the politicians need to be held accountable as well .... agree deh suh

                    Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                    • #11
                      Actually, we are really on the same page.
                      Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else - Vince Lombardi

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