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    28 October 2011
    Eurozone seeks bailout funds from China


    The head of the eurozone's bailout fund is beginning attempts to persuade China to invest in a scheme to help rescue member countries facing debt crises.

    After meeting Chinese leaders, Klaus Regling said there were no formal negotiations and would be no deal now.

    It is thought China may pay about 70bn euros ($100bn) into the fund, which is expected to be boosted to 1tn euros.

    Meanwhile French President Nicolas Sarkozy said debt-ridden Greece's entry to the eurozone was a mistake.

    Greece was "not ready" when it joined in 2001, he said, adding that it could be rescued thanks to a new deal on the debt crisis.

    European leaders worked into the early hours of Thursday in Brussels to secure an agreement aimed at preventing the crisis from spreading to larger eurozone economies.

    The deal triggered a worldwide shares rally.

    'Regular buyer'

    Beijing has made it clear that it will demand strong guarantees on the safety of any contribution it might make.

    With more than $3tn in foreign reserves there are European hopes that China could ride to the rescue.

    As the EU's biggest trade partner Beijing would also be hard hit by any downturn in Europe.

    But like other investors, China will want guarantees.

    And Beijing may push for other concessions, such as market economy status - a move that would make it harder for European companies to press trade complaints against Chinese rivals.

    Any investment will also be fraught with political risk.

    China's fund managers have faced criticism after earlier overseas investments soured.

    Despite being the world's second economy, more than 200m Chinese live in poverty.

    China's leaders won't want to be seen giving "charity" to countries richer than their own.

    Mr Regling, who is chief executive of the European Financial Stability Facility (EFSF), said he was not negotiating with China as a potential investor but holding consultations to decide the terms for raising the money.

    "Don't expect any precise outcome of our talks," he said, quoted by AFP news agency.

    "I cannot say today, and it's certainly far too early to say what kind of amounts might be envisaged."

    He said China had been a regular buyer of EFSF bonds in the past.

    He would present the fund's bonds as a potential commercial investment to China, he said, adding that Beijing regularly needed to find safe investments for its trade surpluses.

    "I am optimistic that we will have a longer term relationship," he said.

    Chinese Vice Finance Minister Zhu Guangyao said there was work still to be done.

    "We need to wait for the technicalities to be clear and also to carry out serious studies before we can decide on investment," he said, quoted by AFP.

    If we have the ability to help them then we should, but there is no feeling of pride in that”

    The President of the World Bank, Robert Zoellick, has said he believes China will invest in Europe only if there are incentives for it to do so.

    "I don't think that China will just come in as a white knight to try to provide money just to bail out Europeans," he told the BBC.

    But investor Jim Rogers said China was prepared to help.

    "From China's point of view, it's cheap foreign aid. They'll buy goodwill. I guess they'll put up some money," he said on BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

    The suggestion that China should use its financial clout to assist the eurozone met with mixed reactions on the streets of Beijing.

    "If we have the ability to help them then we should, but there is no feeling of pride in that," said Xu Juan - a 27-year-old employee of an international trade firm.

    Wang Xiaodong, a 23-year-old university student, said "With the global economy everybody prospers together or becomes weaker together, so we just have to endure this tough time together."

    The framework for the new EFSF bailout fund is to be put in place in November.

    Germany, as the largest economy in eurozone, is expected to be the largest contributor.

    Asian markets rose for a second day on Friday and bank stocks in Europe continued to rally, a day after the deal was reached.
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    Times are a changin'
    "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Islandman View Post
      Times are a changin'
      Mek di frog dem gwaan bwile

      BTW.. Confucius Say.. Chinese people love to eat frogs... YUM YUM
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      • #4
        Why China won't save the world


        Is China's President Hu Jintao about to fish out his chequebook at the G20 summit in Cannes and, with a flourish, wipe away Europe's woes?

        From all the breathless speculation you'd think that was on the cards. The talk is all about how "China can save the world", or ride in and "rescue the Eurozone".

        Of all the G20 leaders President Hu may seem to be in an enviable position, with China's economy growing at about 9% a year and holding a war-chest of $3.2 trillion (£2tn, 2.3tn Euros) in foreign exchange reserves.

        But it's worth considering that President Hu is not in such a powerful position. He's not about to "save" Europe - in fact he's probably as concerned as anyone else about the way Greece seems to be sinking deeper into the economic and political mire and the Eurozone may be heading for even more trouble.

        Most of the hype about China's ability to influence the situation is coming from people commentating from outside China. What is being said here is very different.

        "China can neither take up the role as saviour to the Europeans, nor provide a 'cure' for the European malaise," said the state-run Xinhua news agency at the weekend.

        Drag on Europe?
        To put things in perspective, for all China's rise, its economy accounts for less than 10% of global GDP at present, while the developed nations of Europe and America make up well over 50%.

        It is Europe - even in a time of crisis - that does much to power China's rise, rather than the other way round. Europe, we all know, is China's biggest export market. Last year it bought 280bn euros of Chinese goods.


        Chinese exporters have been hit by the downturn
        A new downturn in Europe would hit China hard. At the giant China import-export fair in Guangzhou this week almost everyone I spoke to said orders from Europe are falling and that's hurting China's exporters.

        By contrast, some say, China is a drag on Europe. It sells far more to Europe than it imports from it, and that is not going to change overnight. Only Germany has serious trade with China, as it makes the machinery and motor vehicles Beijing is buying in large quantities.

        China isn't investing much in Europe either - less than 1bn euros last year. That was little more than 1% of foreign investment in Europe, which pumped five times as much into China.

        While many outside China view its leaders as strong, masters of a rising power, many in China see them as cautious, consensual, hemmed in by problems at home. President Hu has just a year left before he's due to step down, so he's unlikely to take radical decisions right now.

        China is trying to slow its own economy, to control inflation, to unwind the massive investment and credit boom it used to get through the last global crisis, to keep a lid on rising protests. What would help Europe is if Chinese consumers bought much more, but that will take time to happen.

        In the meantime Beijing has talked at various points in the past year or so about stepping in to help Greece, Portugal and Italy. But it has not done much, understandably wary about losing if it invests rashly now in the middle of a crisis.

        China has huge holdings of euros and Europe is important to China, so it will invest, but on a clear-headed, commercial basis. Just don't expect China to save the world.

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        • #5
          Ongly di Werl cyan save di Werl... Capitalism Gone Maaad

          Occupy di Werl mi seh... consciously & spiritually

          Wash Out cleansing mi seh
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