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  • S&P downgrades US credit rating

    By HENRY C. JACKSON - Associated Press | AP – 3 hrs

    ....WASHINGTON (AP) — Republicans and Democrats quickly doled out blame to each other for the first-ever downgrade in the nation's sterling credit rating, an expected but unsettling move that further clouds prospects for the recovery of the fragile United States' economy.

    The back and forth came after Standard & Poor's, one of the world's three major credit rating agencies, cited "difficulties in bridging the gulf between political parties" as a major reason for the downgrade from U.S.'s top shelf AAA status to AA+, the next level down. The rating agency has essentially lost faith in Washington's ability to work together to address its debt.

    The downgrade, hours after markets closed on Friday, is a first for the U.S. since it was granted an AAA rating in 1917. S&P warned about a downgrade as far back as April. Its decision came just four days after fractious debate over raising the nation's debt ceiling ended in a compromise that would reduce the country's debt by more than $2 trillion (€1.41 trillion). S&P said Friday the cuts did not go far enough.

    Both political parties used S&P's report to buffet their policy cases and attack the other side.

    House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, said he hoped the downgrade served as a wake-up call to the Democratic Party.

    "It is my hope this wake-up call will convince Washington Democrats that they can no longer afford to tinker around the edges of our long-term debt problem," Boehner said in a statement. "As S&P noted, reforming and preserving our entitlement programs is the 'key to long-term fiscal sustainability."

    Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, while not calling out Republicans by name, said S&P's action showed that Democrats preferred policy approach — a mix of raising taxes and budget cuts — was the correct way to move forward.

    "The action by S&P reaffirms the need for a balanced approach to deficit reduction that combines spending cuts with revenue-raising measures like closing taxpayer-funded giveaways to billionaires, oil companies and corporate jet owners," Reid said.

    At least one senator, Republican Mark Kirk of Illinois, called for the president to bring Congress back from its August recess to try and address the issues raised by S&P's report.

    The White House remained mum on the downgrade early Saturday. President Barack Obama met with Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner in the Oval Office late Friday afternoon before leaving for a weekend at Camp David.

    S&P's decision, though, clearly angered the Obama administration.

    Officials at the Treasury Department fought the downgrade until virtually the last minute. Administration sources familiar with discussions said the S&P analysis was fundamentally flawed. They spoke on condition of anonymity because they weren't authorized to discuss the matter publicly.

    S&P had sent the administration a draft document in the early afternoon Friday and the administration, after examining the numbers, challenged the analysis.

    In a statement, Treasury said, "A judgment flawed by a $2 trillion error speaks for itself."

    Potential opponents of the president in 2012 pounced on S&P's announcement.

    Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minnesota, a tea party favorite, called on Obama to fire Geithner and quickly submit a plan to balance the budget, not just reduce deficits. Former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney said the credit downgrade was the "latest casualty" in Obama's failed economic leadership.

    S&P said in its report that downgrading the U.S.'s credit rating reflected the agency's belief that the debt deal Congress pulled together was not sufficient "to stabilize the government's medium-term debt dynamics." S&P said that in addition to the downgrade, it is issuing a negative outlook, meaning that there was a chance it will lower the rating further within the next two years.

    A downgrade a notch lower, to AA, will occur if the agency sees smaller reductions in spending than Congress and the administration have agreed to make, higher interest rates or new fiscal pressures during this period.

    The downgrade is a psychological blow to an economy that has struggled to recover from the financial tumult of 2008. It came hours after a rare bit of good news, when the U.S. Department of Labor announced the country had added 117,000 jobs in July, exceeding analysts' expectations. Any optimism from that report was quickly out shadowed by S&P's announcement.

    Whether the downgrade will have a more tangible impact on the economic outlook remains to be seen.

    Though widely predicted, S&P's decision comes at a time when investors already appear spooked by U.S. economic indicators and debt troubles in Europe. The Dow Jones Industrial average fell 699 points this week, the most since the height of the financial crisis in October 2008.

    Regulators and the Federal Reserve issued a statement designed to calm investors, saying that the downgrade shouldn't impact U.S.-guaranteed investments. The statement sought to ensure that banks understood the downgrade would not affect the amount of money that regulators require banks to hold onto against possible losses.

    If this week is any indication, S&P's decision is unlikely to have an impact on how the United States finances its borrowing, through the sale of government-backed bonds, bills and notes.

    "Investors have voted and are saying the U.S. is going to pay them," said Mark Zandi, chief economist of Moody's Analytics. "U.S. Treasurys are still the gold standard."

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    AP writers Martin Crutsinger and Tom Raum contributed to this report.

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    "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

  • #2
    Monday will be interesting...

    S&P had already published a report two weeks ago stating possible scenarios for the new budget and their action in response, so there action should be much of a surprise since their threshold for cuts as stated hasn't been met.

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    • #3
      Although the downgrade is well deserved I didn't think they would actually do it, at least not yet.

      The US is in for some serious belt tightening ahead. Obama going to have a tough time. Him better hope the GOP choose on of their clowns and not a relatively decent candidate like Romney,
      "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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      • #4
        Again mi tell unnu that has to fear the GOP posing in the centre. We lucky the downgrade came after trading on Friday. Can you imagine if it came out late morning yesterday, what would have happen to the market?
        • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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        • #5
          The market and its day-to-day movement is the least of the worries.

          The US govt BRUK! Unoo betta wake up and face up to it soon. 1 trillion in cuts nah seh nutten, is just a downpayment. Me nuh need S&P fe tell me dat.
          "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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          • #6
            While we were running to war with Sadam nobody complain and it last 10 years. you remember "it should be funded regardless of cost'? Now was the Bush tax cut worth it?

            The US will have to make cuts but we also have to raise some TAXES as well. Obama need to sell it not the way he is doing now but start pointing out the importance and get some left groups out on the road because groups like Moveon.org are not very impressed at this point. AARP and others are watchin keenly.

            Now some leftist thinking of running.
            • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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            • #7
              Raising some taxes is fine but it won't even solve 20% of the fiscal problem.
              It is worth doing mainly for purposes of fairness and to satisfy the left wing liberals that got Obama to where he is.

              Unfortunately for Obama and the Dems, to get any tax increase they will have to agree to cut 2-3 times that amount in spending, so pick your poison. Personally I would love if they could agree to a compromise like that.
              "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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              • #8
                The Bush tax cut would cut the deficit by at least a third. The fact is Obama and the dems are two timid. The tax increase they are offering is chump change, they must can come up with ways of getting more taxes. I can think of ways but they are two timid. They had two years to make changes and postpone it and now it come back to bite them in their arses.

                One democrat said something and that this debt crisis deal should have been a part of the deal in January. Tax cut alone to social services will not get us anywhere either. Don't worry tell me bout waste because they will not be cutting waste and pork. That is the sad part about it.
                • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                • #9
                  That is totally wrong Assasin. If the Bush tax cuts were reversed the deficit would still continue to grow every year, just by a smaller amount. Check this chart from a liberal source who thinks they should have been rolled back here.

                  http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezr...ect_on_th.html

                  I think you underestimate how bad things are with the US govt spending.
                  "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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                  • #10
                    Yes it would continue to grow by smaller amount. You however fail to address the Iraq war. The fact is the Bush tax cut in my view was reckless and Obama and democrats should have repealed most of it a year and a half ago. Not use it as an election tool, as they will now use it in 2012. Couple the tax cut and say didn't go to war or came out in the first two years the deficit would have been a LOT smaller.

                    Some of the other things can be addressed like raising age on social security, and simple putting nominal taxes here and there as Reagan and Clinton did, but when you have one side say not "one cent" in revenue it makes it 10 times harder. Spending has to be cut but we are not even addressing the huge military spending, only thing we talk about is socail programs as if it is all unjust people living off the state.

                    Right now all we do is demonized people who need any assistance. Last night I was speaking with a couple who both worked for major corps. Both were making over 80 Grand a year and got laid off, and now have no insurance for themselves and kids. I am telling them to go to the state and find out what assistance they can get, but it is hard for them because of the impression they had of the kind of people who get assistance.

                    I have no problem paying a few more dollars to keep PELL GRANT for example.
                    • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                    • #11
                      The wars are spending too so that has certainly been a big part of the problem. The reality is that the spending problem has been created more by Bush than by Obama, most of Obamas spending has been in an attempt to stimulate the economy.

                      Somehow the Democrats have a hard time getting people to understand this. The Republican leadership who voted for most of that spending during the Bush era are the worst kind of hypocrites but that is politics.
                      "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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                      • #12
                        The democrats have to reframe their message and sell it. It may not be a bad idea if a leftest turn up to challenge Obama to help him fine tune his message for the republicans and for him to re-engage the left.

                        Democrats have to make people know it was the spending of the republicans and not the democrats that cause this thing and make people more willing to accept cuts and incremental tax increases where necessary.

                        Repbulicans losing the war but wining the message.
                        • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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