No now we no that there will be no tax

[Assasin]

subsidy cut from the wealthy, oil companies or nobody and Pell grant which is a tool for poor people especially those whose family earn under 30 and is used by a lot of black people to go to school will be cut by a huge amount.

I am wondering what has the democrats won more than just getting the debt limit that should be routine?

[Islandman]

Nothing. Not even public opinion because Obamas approval rating is at its lowest.

Tough to negotiate with people who are willing to sacrifice themselves for thier cause. You have to just hope they will eventually commit suicide.