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    Emil George is a fool, a failure & an embarrassment as the so called head of this Commission..... giving lawyers & witnesses too much leeway to block the truth and obfuscate



    EDITORIAL - Coke Lawyers Should Donate Pay To Charity
    Published: Thursday | March 31, 20110

    On Tuesday, Prime Minister Bruce Golding told Parliament what everyone already knew - that the bill for the commission of enquiry into the Christopher Coke extradition affair will be higher than the J$37 million that was originally budgeted.

    Indeed, it could be more than twice that amount, although Mr Golding stressed that the final bill "cannot be determined until (the enquiry) is concluded".

    The major chunk of the budget is to cover the fees of the three commissioners and the various lawyers who have respresented the public officials at the hearings, excluding those for Mr Golding and the two poltical parties.

    The juniors, the prime minister reported, bill at the equivalent of US$250 per hour, the same as the two ordinary commissioners, while senior counsel get the same rate - US$350 an hour - as the commission's chairman, Mr Emil George.

    The fact that the taxpayers will face a much bigger bill than expected is due in no small measure to Mr George's effete leadership of the commission, particularly in the earlier days, and the great effort to which attorneys have gone in helping their clients to 'stonewall and stalemate' the attempts at arriving at the truth. In the circumstances, it was inevitable that the hearings would be prolonged and that the billing clocks would keep running.

    Against this backdrop, we have a suggestion for commissioners George, Anthony Irons and Donald Scharschmidt and those lawyers being paid out of the public purse.

    They were orignally given a time period to complete their task: job work, to put it crudely. They didn't. Moreover, there is little public confidence that the commission will be able to fulfil the mandate set out in its terms of reference.

    Our proposal, therefore, is that the publicly paid lawyers and the commissioners donate to charity all earnings above what they would have made if the life of the commission had not been extended.

    Additionally, should the commission fail to answer with clarity and conclusiveness the issues that this newspaper stripped down for it on Monday, the commissioners and those lawyers who will bill taxpayers should contribute another 20 per cent of their fees to charitable causes. The others, at their discretion, might contribute to the pool.

    Should the commissioners and the lawyers agree to our proposal, of which we contemplate no difficulty, this newspaper is prepared to manage a competition for charities wishing to share in the pool. We propose that eligible charities would be those promoting tansparency and integrity in the public sphere, operating projects for dispute resolutions and/or education and training in inner-city communities.

    We look forward to the commission's response.
    TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

    Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

    D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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    there is NO chance of truth being discovered! none! in fact this is no lonegr about the truth ..... emil george asked knight to repeat a question because the commisioners did not hear it and he refused saying that "the people heard it" .....

    is pure grandstanding a gwa'an and the gutter to which it descended yesterday ought to cause us all sheer and utter embarassment ..... on the legal profession, on our politicians and politics ... the trading of insults and badmanship ... "this is the ONLY place mr knight can speak to me like this" and to top it all off emil george is a spineless snivelling ... yuh know what mek i stap ....

    Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Gamma View Post
      there is NO chance of truth being discovered! none! in fact this is no lonegr about the truth ..... emil george asked knight to repeat a question because the commisioners did not hear it and he refused saying that "the people heard it" .....

      is pure grandstanding a gwa'an and the gutter to which it descended yesterday ought to cause us all sheer and utter embarassment ..... on the legal profession, on our politicians and politics ... the trading of insults and badmanship ... "this is the ONLY place mr knight can speak to me like this" and to top it all off emil george is a spineless snivelling ... yuh know what mek i stap ....
      Bruce put himself in this position by selecting George to run this thing. Based on how things playing out, KD is now the commissioner ... no wonder Dorothy and Bruce answer his questions as "Yes/No Commissioner".
      "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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      • #4
        yes... you're right... BUT... a question for you:

        Regardless of how KD comported himself... was there EVER a chance of the witnesses telling the truth? .... you damn well know the answer to that!

        The basic problem remains the insistence of the witnesses... especially the Prime Minister in LYING and REFUSING to disclose the truth... that with the connivance of their attorneys AND Emil George...who himself doesn't seem interested in ferreting out the truth.

        I'm less interested in the debasement of the legal profession than I am in seeing the truth exposed.
        TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

        Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

        D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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        • #5
          i have said before i expected NONE of the witnesses to be completely forthcoming. what i did not expect is how it has basically turned into a parlaimentary debate PURELY along political lines.

          as for emil george, he might be biased but his lack of a spine is the more obvious thing right now especially the way kd shoves him around! a proper commision would have been expected to pic sense from nonsense and assess the credibility of witnesses in providing a finding. there may have been little chance of that before...now there is no chance whatsoever

          Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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          • #6
            I disagree... if an impartial person looks at the situation...casting aside the histrionics...there is ample material there to make a judgement about the veracity of witnesses... Golding for example is a complete and unrepentant LIAD....
            ...that stuff about Liguanea being the uptown/dowtown dividing line and he claiming to believe the US Embassy is still on Oxford Rd is his LIAD LITMUS TEST... 100% FAIL
            TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

            Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

            D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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            • #7
              well, i will wait to see what such an impartial person has to say.

              btw the loss of any opportunity to discern truth and credibility is directly related to the ineffectiveness of the commision generally and the chairman specifically!

              Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Don1 View Post
                I disagree... if an impartial person looks at the situation...casting aside the histrionics...there is ample material there to make a judgement about the veracity of witnesses... Golding for example is a complete and unrepentant LIAD....
                ...that stuff about Liguanea being the uptown/dowtown dividing line and he claiming to believe the US Embassy is still on Oxford Rd is his LIAD LITMUS TEST... 100% FAIL

                You know, being on jury duty recently allowed me to appreciate the saying, "pay attention to the evidence!"

                The man says what he meant with that statement, just claiming he isn't telling the truth isn't enough. Someone needs to present something to prove he isn't telling the truth.

                With the disgrace that took place in the CoE yesterday, all KD is doing is making submissions without anything to support his claim. When he started talking about the PM rejecting meetings with Bush, its clear that it is now clearly a political game.
                "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Gamma View Post
                  there is NO chance of truth being discovered! none! in fact this is no lonegr about the truth ..... emil george asked knight to repeat a question because the commisioners did not hear it and he refused saying that "the people heard it" .....

                  is pure grandstanding a gwa'an and the gutter to which it descended yesterday ought to cause us all sheer and utter embarassment ..... on the legal profession, on our politicians and politics ... the trading of insults and badmanship ... "this is the ONLY place mr knight can speak to me like this" and to top it all off emil george is a spineless snivelling ... yuh know what mek i stap ....
                  Don't STOP Gamma - SPEAK YOUR MIND! A pure garbage a gwaan...
                  Life is a system of half-truths and lies, opportunistic, convenient evasion.”
                  - Langston Hughes

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                  • #10
                    it was a political GAME from the moment the corrupt PM Gelding injected the JLP into the matter of the extradition of a narco criminal... that in order to protect his tribe... talking about US "stonewalling" in early September 2009...

                    Man fi lie...but nuh suh
                    TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                    Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                    D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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