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    Study: Few Afghans know about 9/11, reason for war

    92 percent of men in key province are unaware of 2001 attacks on U.S.

    By PAUL TAIT
    Reuters
    KABUL — Afghans in two crucial southern provinces are almost completely unaware of the September 11 attacks on the United States and don't know they precipitated the foreign intervention now in its 10th year, a new report showed on Friday.
    NATO leaders gathered in Lisbon for a summit on Friday where the transition from foreign forces — now at about 150,000 — to Afghan security responsibility will be at the top of the agenda, with leaders to discuss a 2014 target date set by Kabul.
    Story: Obama at NATO summit to plan Afghan pullout
    Few Afghans in Helmand and Kandahar provinces, Taliban strongholds where fighting remains fiercest, know why foreign troops are in Afghanistan, says the "Afghanistan Transition: Missing Variables" report to be released later on Friday.

    The report by The International Council on Security and Development (ICOS) policy think-tank showed 92 percent of 1,000 Afghan men surveyed in Helmand and Kandahar know nothing of the hijacked airliner attacks on U.S. targets in 2001.
    "The lack of awareness of why we are there contributes to the high levels of negativity toward the NATO military operations and made the job of the Taliban easier," ICOS President Norine MacDonald told Reuters from Washington.
    "We need to explain to the Afghan people why we are here, and both convince them and show them that their future is better with us than the Taliban," MacDonald said.
    The report said there was a continued "relationship gap" between Afghans and the international community, describing the lack of understanding as "dramatic."

    U.S.-backed Afghan forces toppled the Islamist Taliban government in late 2001 for sheltering al-Qaida leaders who plotted the 9/11 attacks that killed about 3,000 people.
    The war has now dragged into its 10th year and violence is at its worst, despite a record number of foreign troops, with military and civilian casualties at their highest levels.
    Exit timetable
    Attention is now focused on an exit timetable. U.S. President Barack Obama, who will review his Afghanistan war strategy next month, wants to begin withdrawing U.S. troops from July 2011.
    European NATO leaders, under pressure at home to justify their continued commitment to an increasingly unpopular war, are following a similar timetable. Some are withdrawing troops and others are looking to move from combat to training roles.
    While Afghan President Hamid Karzai has set a target of 2014, NATO's civilian representative in Afghanistan, Mark Sedwill, said this week "eye-watering levels of violence by Western standards" might mean the transition spills into 2015.
    That throws the emphasis back on the Afghan government — widely seen as so corrupt and inept that it is unable to support itself — and the readiness of Afghan forces to take over.

    The ICOS report showed 61 percent of respondents in Helmand and Kandahar believe Afghan security forces would not be able to provide adequate security when foreign forces withdraw, and that 56 percent believe the Afghan police are helping the Taliban.
    It noted there was clear "potential for the Afghan security forces to switch sides" after being trained by NATO forces.
    The report said 81 percent of those interviewed in the south thought al-Qaida would return to Afghanistan if the Taliban regained power, and that 72 percent thought al-Qaida would again use the country to launch attacks against the West.
    'Negative blowback'
    ICOS senior policy analyst Jorrit Kamminga said the "negative blowback" of the foreign presence could be managed by addressing the chronic poverty, food shortages, unemployment and displacement faced by ordinary Afghans.
    The report noted improvements in some areas of the south, with the number of people in Marjah, a key battleground in Helmand, who thought NATO-led forces were winning the war almost doubling to 64 percent between June and October 2010.
    It was also a very different picture in the north, with 80 percent of 500 men interviewed in Parwan and Panjshir provinces thinking the central government was protecting their interests.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40273302...d_central_asia
    'to get what we've never had, we MUST do what we've never done'

  • #2
    Maybe if we did drop some leaflet it woulda save us billions, but then again what percentage can read?
    • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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    • #3
      Bwoy I tell you, sometimes even those of us who consider ourselves to be more aware of what going on the the world, are still well removed with some peoples reality.

      I don't think you could even explain 9-11 to them in a way they would appreciate anyway, not to mention that it was almost 10 years ago.
      "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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      • #4
        As we were informed by that sage, Miss London.... Polls are Over-Rated

        Meaningless
        TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

        Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

        D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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        • #5
          she didn't say that. she said they were not scientific, merely people's opinions.


          BLACK LIVES MATTER

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
            she didn't say that. she said they were not scientific, merely people's opinions.
            .... so they're meaningless as they don't reflect reality
            TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

            Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

            D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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            • #7
              I dont know what she said but I view polls and Vox Pop with skepticism myself as they can easily be manipulated.

              I have never being polled about anything and no one I know have ever being polled either

              Granted people in my profession should not be polled as it is assumed that they know more about what is going on in the background that the normal citizen would not be aware of.
              Solidarity is not a matter of well wishing, but is sharing the very same fate whether in victory or in death.
              Che Guevara.

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              • #8
                yep!


                BLACK LIVES MATTER

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                  she didn't say that. she said they were not scientific, merely people's opinions.
                  Damn ...
                  "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                    yep!
                    Opps ... spoke to soon ...
                    "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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                    • #11
                      am i not right? again?


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