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  • More fears over fingerprints

    Gary Spaulding, Senior Gleaner Writer

    Concerns over the alleged misuse of fingerprinting data just won't go away, since law-enforcement personnel scooped up numerous Jamaicans in raids following the west Kingston incursion in late May.
    Another dimension of the so-called misuse has surfaced with at least one human-rights group raising concerns that fingerprints collected by the Ministry of National Security for migration purposes are being illegally retained in its database.

    Convener of Families Against State Terrorism, Yvonne McCalla Sobers, told The Gleaner this was the account given to her by an applicant.
    "I went to the Ministry of National Security's office on Oxford/Hope Road to pay to have the police do my fingerprints for migration purposes," the applicant wrote to FAST.

    "Can you believe that there was a sign which informed the public that the prints will be kept to assist the police in their fight against crime?" the obviously surprised applicant asserted.
    Attorney-at-law Bert Samuels says while he was not aware of the sign, this ought not to be.
    "You can't give your fingerprint for Reason A and it is used for Reason B," Samuels asserted.

    Illegal collection
    Samuels, one of the attorneys who have constantly spoken out against the practice of the police routinely storing fingerprints of Jamaicans, contends that retaining prints submitted outside a state of emergency, when specific regulations permit the collection of fingerprints ad hoc, is illegal.

    He stressed that the sole purpose of the fingerprint in such a circumstance is to check the applicant's criminal record.
    "It should not be used for any other purpose," he argued.
    Samuels said the issue brings into sharp focus the need for the destruction of fingerprint data to be properly supervised.
    He added that, as an attorney, he has taken for granted that the fingerprints of clients he has represented who have been acquitted are destroyed in accordance with the law.

    "I have never followed through or witnessed the destruction process," he admitted.
    The police agree that the fingerprint must be destroyed after it is found to be clean.

    Steve Brown of the Constabulary Communication Network told a radio station that the fingerprint is taken, then matched to see if there is criminal record.

    He said if there is a match it is stated on the certificate, but if there is no match the fingerprint is discarded.
    McCalla Sobers also queried whether the prints taken for the voters' list have been placed in the hands of the police.
    Samuels is among some criminal attorneys who have been fussing over the practice of the police to retain fingerprints of persons rounded up and fingerprinted routinely.
    gary.spaulding@gleanerjm.com

    Section Three of the Fingerprint Act stipulates that fingerprints must be destroyed on acquittal.
    "Where any person is charged before a Circuit Court, the Traffic Court, Children's Court, Family Court or a Resident Magistrate's Court with any offence, the Court may order that the fingerprints and photograph of such person be taken."

    The section adds that, "Where an order is made under this section for the taking of the fingerprints and photograph of any person, such fingerprints and photograph shall be taken by an authorised officer.
    "Where the person who is fingerprinted and photographed is acquitted of the charge, the fingerprint form and photograph shall (subject to certain factors) be destroyed within three months from the date of acquittal and the person or his attorney-at-law shall be given prior notice of the date, time and location of such destruction."
    "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

  • #2
    Well the law needs to be amended then. There should be a fingerprint of every citizen.
    "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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    • #3
      in the usa as well?


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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
        in the usa as well?
        Is the USA the benchmark? As far as I know, those applying for residency and citizenship have to provide fingerprint.

        The other morning on NNN (yeah, where else) a former law enforcement personnel was asked about the concerns of police planting prints and according to the response, the concerns were unnecessary.

        How many times we've heard that police find gun and no one is arrested? Were the guns dusted for prints? Now what if a print is lifted, they could easily search a database for a match.

        I think ppl are fussing about the wrong thing, ppl should be pushing the gov't to spend the money on the technology to secure these prints that could help the police in the long run.
        "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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        • #5
          i don't have a problem with it.

          i would be surprised if the JCF has some effective way of storing the fingerprints and retrieving them. They bundle everything else, can't see them not totally messing up this one!


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          • #6
            You ever try to do business at the fingerprint office? Especially with the dozens of people trying to get documents to go on farm work or the hotel work program?

            understand they are not even computerized
            Solidarity is not a matter of well wishing, but is sharing the very same fate whether in victory or in death.
            Che Guevara.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sickko View Post
              You ever try to do business at the fingerprint office? Especially with the dozens of people trying to get documents to go on farm work or the hotel work program?

              understand they are not even computerized
              As mi say, people fussing about the wrong thing. Push the gov't to mek use of the technology that already exist.
              "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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              • #8
                if they were even computerized...


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                • #9
                  Hope guys like mosiah get finger-printed AND foot-printed as well.
                  The only time TRUTH will hurt you...is if you ignore it long enough

                  HL

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Lazie View Post
                    How many times we've heard that police find gun and no one is arrested? Were the guns dusted for prints? Now what if a print is lifted, they could easily search a database for a match.

                    I think ppl are fussing about the wrong thing, ppl should be pushing the gov't to spend the money on the technology to secure these prints that could help the police in the long run.
                    agree... the law should be amended... the gov't isn't helping law enforcement by not amending the law... we are wasting so much resources when some simple common sense measures could be advanced...

                    instead of focussing on the positives of a fingerprint database which would assist in the crime fight, we choose to focus on the negatives...

                    everyone who is arrested should be made to take a mug shot and fingerprinted... smh and kmt...
                    'to get what we've never had, we MUST do what we've never done'

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                    • #11
                      They spoke about fingerprinting people when they are arrested but some prefer to keep the present system where only a judge can order the finger printing when the person is taken to court.
                      Solidarity is not a matter of well wishing, but is sharing the very same fate whether in victory or in death.
                      Che Guevara.

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                      • #12
                        suh, de law need fi change... dat will shut up de lawyer dem... as the law is currently structured, they are right with their concerns...
                        'to get what we've never had, we MUST do what we've never done'

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