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  • Cops Want Video and the Person who did it!

    Cops Want Video
    Published: Thursday | August 5, 20100 Comments and 0 Reactions

    Hinds
    Glenroy Sinclair and Livern Barrett, Senior Gleaner Writers

    A team of police investigators is now trying to locate the person who videotaped last week's shooting of a man by lawmen in Buckfield, St Ann, as well as the cellular phone he used to capture the controversial images.

    Yesterday, head of the Criminal Investigative Branch (CIB), Assistant Commissioner Les Green, was unwilling to disclose much about the investigation, but confirmed the individual hailed as "brave" by Police Commissioner Owen Ellington was being sought for assistance.

    "Yes, we are pursuing the person and the cellular phone," Green told The Gleaner.

    The CIB head also expressed concern about the level of training that the policemen implicated in the Buckfield shooting incident received.

    "That is one aspect of the investigation," argued Green, who is eager to ascertain how the officers were trained or taught to deal with situations like what took place in St Ann last Friday, without employing excessive force.

    Detectives attached to the Major Investigation Task Force (MIT) reported yesterday that they have recorded at least 15 statements in relation to the controversial killing of St Ann resident, Ian Lloyd, alias 'Ching Sing', who was shot by the police in full view of a group of cheering residents.

    According to the police, eight of the statements recorded were from police personnel, while the other seven were collected from civilians. An autopsy has been sche-duled for today to establish the cause of death.

    Prior to his demise, Lloyd was accused of killing his common-law wife, Loveta Wilson, otherwise called 'Cherry', both of Buckfield, Ocho Rios.

    Video footage of the policemen beating and shooting Lloyd was later circulated to the media.

    Guided by human rights

    Contacted yesterday, Deputy Commissioner of Police Glenmore Hinds explained that members of the police force are trained to use all necessary force to effect an arrest. However, he further explained that this training is guided by the United Nations' (UN) charter on human rights and use of force policy.

    "It (the charter of rights) has been adopted into our training manual in basic training and all firearms courses," Hinds told The Gleaner.

    Article Three of the UN Code of Conduct for law enforcement officials, which was adopted in 1979, says "Law enforcement officials may use force only when strictly necessary and to the extent required for the performance of their duty."

    The declaration also states: "While it implies that law enforcement officials may be authorised to use force as is reasonably necessary under the circumstances for the prevention of crime or in effecting or assisting in the lawful arrest of offenders or suspected offenders, no force going beyond that may be used."

    Article Two of the code also requires that "in the performance of their duty, law enforcement officials shall respect and protect human dignity and maintain and uphold the human rights of all person."

    In the meantime, retired Senior Superintendent Reneto Adams, who was speaking at a Lion's Club luncheon in Kingston yesterday, described the shooting incident as the most heinous, barbaric, despicable and reprehensible police action he has ever seen in recent and modern history.

    "I am only talking about the action, I am not talking about what is to follow. (That is) if what I have seen is the truth and the only truth," said Adams, who stressed that the behaviour of the implicated policemen was uncalled for and unwarranted.


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    Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
    In the meantime, retired Senior Superintendent Reneto Adams, who was speaking at a Lion's Club luncheon in Kingston yesterday, described the shooting incident as the most heinous, barbaric, despicable and reprehensible police action he has ever seen in recent and modern history.

    "I am only talking about the action, I am not talking about what is to follow. (That is) if what I have seen is the truth and the only truth," said Adams, who stressed that the behaviour of the implicated policemen was uncalled for and unwarranted.


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    • #3
      turn yourself and your expensive phone in Mo. LOL
      • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Assasin View Post
        turn yourself and your expensive phone in Mo. LOL
        yuh coming to mi funeral?


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        • #5
          A hope that person has already fled from Jamaica. All dem want to do is murder him.

          Them already see the video, what they need the phone and the person for??
          Life is a system of half-truths and lies, opportunistic, convenient evasion.”
          - Langston Hughes

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          • #6
            how mi fi come a funeral and you nuh dead. Wha happen? X disban the JFJ?

            You better walk with Dr.Gomes on one side and Leah on the next and you safe
            • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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            • #7
              if a bring een di phone wid di video what yuh tink gwine happen? why dem need fi find di person who did it? is there a possibility that the video was doctored and nutten never really did go suh?!?

              and den dem waan people fi work wid di police!

              these murders will keep happening because people can't trust the police, and because of that, the police can't trust the justice system. it's a vicious cycle!


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              • #8
                i have no doubt Mo. I was told of a story back home which made me very upset. It is sad when even upstanding citizens in their 60s and is known in a country community have fear of reporting they clues think could have solve a crime. They think the police and badboys are working as one.

                The force is in bad shape
                • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Assasin View Post
                  The force is in bad shape
                  MissLondon love dem doh! For me, bad police is worse dan a regular gunman. One has sworn to uphold the law while di odda one neva promise yuh any such lies!


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                  • #10
                    Ruff choice but you nuh expect nothing good from one, but the betrayal of the oath of office makes it harder fi tek.

                    It is also sad knowing a few good cops myself but it doesn't change the image and make crime fighting so much more complex.
                    • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                    • #11
                      The cops want to do a "Kentucky Kid" on the individual. After Kentucky Kid showed a video of cops brutalizing him and his wife to the police high command, he was subsequently killed under mysterious circumstances.
                      Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else - Vince Lombardi

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                      • #12
                        Apparently it is a legal thing, the TV footage cant be used as evidence in a court of law
                        Solidarity is not a matter of well wishing, but is sharing the very same fate whether in victory or in death.
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                        • #13
                          It can, but the person who did it must give his account.


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                          • #14
                            yes and the court must inspect the phone and all that, evidentiary business, whe gamma deh?
                            Solidarity is not a matter of well wishing, but is sharing the very same fate whether in victory or in death.
                            Che Guevara.

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                            • #15
                              These cops are heroes, not villians

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                              'These cops are heroes, not villains'
                              Buckfield residents still insist a 'terrorist' was removed from their midst
                              BY ALESIA EDWARDS Sunday Observer staff reporter alesiae@jamaicaobserver.com

                              Sunday, August 08, 2010

                              OCHO RIOS, St Ann — The visitor to Old Buckfield in St Ann would hardly know that only 10 days ago, the Ocho Rios enclave was in turmoil, after cops beat and shot to death an apparently unarmed man accused of killing a woman.
                              Yesterday, the community appeared to have shrugged off the fuss made by human rights organisations, going about its business as if nothing had occurred, let alone a spectacular event that triggered national outrage.


                              This driveway in Buckfield, Ocho Rios bears no mark of the drama which unfolded there on July 29.

                              A shopkeeper of Buckfield, Ocho Rios pointing to a hole in the roof allegedly made by Ching Sing, and through which he is said to have gained entrance to rob the shop. (Photos: Alesia Edwards)

                              Three cops from the Ocho Rios Police Station (shown here) were arrested over the Buckfield incident.



                              This driveway in Buckfield, Ocho Rios bears no mark of the drama which unfolded there on July 29.


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                              For some residents with whom the Sunday Observer spoke, the ugly event which was caught on video and flashed on television screens has placed the community in a bad light. But they described the community as a very peaceful place with loving people.

                              And the national commotion over the killing of Ian 'Ching Sing' Lloyd has hardly dented their passionate defence of the three Ocho Rios cops who were seen raining blows on the man lying on the ground.

                              "Buckfield is a very peaceful place. We have never had any incident like this before, it's only because of that incident why we are in the news," said Josh Brown as he sipped on his drink inside a bar close to where the incident took place.

                              "People don't really trouble people around here, it's a good little community," he insisted.

                              Old Buckfield, located approximately 300 metres from the Ocho Rios Police Station and in close proximity to the Ocho Rios market, public transport centre and the commercial heart of the north coast tourist resort, is home to approximately 2,000 residents. It was one of the first two communities to be established in Ocho Rios, and its existence, in fact, predated the development of the town, bordering on the communities of Carib Heights to the east, and New Buckfield to the south.

                              Before July 29, the only tale of sadness that one would likely have heard is about the number of drug addicts that plagued the area. Townfolk said 'Ching Sing' was one such.

                              Several small businesses, including grocery shops, garages, auto parts shops, bars and restaurants as well as a basic school and a church are located in the community. People there are mainly employed in the local tourism industry, as well as the transport sector. Many also work on cruise ships, while others have gained employment overseas as seasonal workers in the hospitality industry.
                              What exploded on July 29 was anything but hospitality.

                              On the video tape caught by a private citizen using his camera phone, three cops, one using a baton, were seen repeatedly hitting a man on the ground. The man appeared to be fending off the cops with an unidentifiable object but seemed generally helpless.

                              People gathered at the scene were heard on the video tape encouraging the cops, one of whom pointed his service firearm at the man and fired a shot. The official police report of the incident from the Constabulary Communication Network (CCN), the information arm of the force, said Ching Sing was shot by the police after he attacked them.

                              The cops were ordered arrested by Police Commissioner Owen Ellington, but some residents hail the policemen as heroes, and not the villains they have been made out to be by the society in general.

                              They believe the actions of the police were justified as they acted not only to protect their lives, but that of residents who have been under threat from Lloyd, and they have vowed to continue supporting the policemen "full hundred".
                              "Jamaica don't know half a wha gwan. If the human rights people dem and the commissioner and everybody who a condemn the police did know the full hundred, dem woulda never a behave so," said a resident who gave her name only as Joy.

                              "A true man, people only a talk and dem don't know weh dem a talk bout. Dem know 'Ching Sing'? Is a wicked yuth dat eenuh. Dem know how many people him coulda kill dat day? A long time dem shoulda get rid of him," another woman chimed in.

                              The residents claimed that for many years Ching Sing had terrorised Old Buckfield, as well as the adjoining communities of Pineapple and New Buckfield. They accused him of constantly breaking into their houses and businesses and stealing food, money, clothing, appliances and other values.

                              The residents said there was no peace in the community because of Ching Sing and that many citizens were living in fear because of his violent behaviour.
                              Ching Sing was only released from prison in early July, after serving an 18-month sentence for housebreaking and larceny.

                              "When him break inna yuh house, him a thief yuh most expensive things: DVD, jewellery, him a eat out yuh food and full him belly... and if you see him and yuh ask him bout it, him pull him knife or machete pon you," a resident said.

                              "It was only a matter of time before him kill somebody," said a shopkeeper in the community who didn't give his name. "He was a nuisance in the community, him tired fi bruk inna me shop. I suffered at his hands, my place couldn't be more secured for him to find some way to break in."

                              The shopkeeper showed the Sunday Observer a hole in the roof which he said was made by Ching Sing.

                              The residents said they were supporting the police because their act of bravery saved other lives. They claimed that Ching Sing, even while on the ground, was determined to harm other residents and the police.

                              They corroborated CCN report, saying that the police tried for about one hour to restrain Ching Sing who was throwing stones and using a broken bottle to stab at the cops.

                              The CCN report also drew outrage from an unbelieving public and resulted in swift changes to how they report on incidents of crime involving the police.
                              The residents denied that the uniformed policeman seen on the video using his baton to strike Ching Sing was beating him, but was instead attempting to get Ching Sing to drop the broken bottle he had in his hand.

                              "Him wouldn't let go the bottle and every time the policeman go near him, him stab at the police, so they had to do what they had to do. Ching Sing was armed and dangerous," argued a woman who was speaking for a group. "The police were only doing their job, they did nothing wrong and Jamaica need to understand that, this is a totally different case from the other police killings..."
                              Ching Sing was a murder suspect in the death of Loveta Wilson, who was fatally stabbed earlier in the day. Another woman was also stabbed and had to be treated at hospital.

                              Added another resident: "Him (Ching Sing) might be a coke head, but him have sense, him wasn't like the other coke heads weh walk and pick off breadfruit and ackee, him no want that, him go fi things with value."

                              The residents are also furious that Ching Sing, whom they described as a known criminal in the community, was being made out to be an innocent individual. At the same time, the residents are upset that little or no focus was placed on the life which was taken by Ching Sing.

                              "The woman no do him nothing and him just say him feel like fi kill somebody and see the woman a come from shop and rush her and start stab her up, somebody like that no deserve fi live," said another, who also claimed that Wilson was not Ching Sing's common-law wife, as had been earlier reported.

                              Two of Wilson's children, Makeba and Marcus Rodney, have expressed disappointment over what they described as the lack of focus on their mother's death.

                              http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/...llains_7860761
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