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    I wonder if this "discharging a firearm without due cause" rule applies to police officers apprehending suspects?!<DIV id=printReady>

    Illegal gun salute - Probe into dangerous New Year tradition
    published: Wednesday | January 3, 2007
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    Shelly-Ann Thompson, Freelance Writer



    Several incidents in which persons fired shots to celebrate the New Year, including one involving two policemen and another which led to the death of an individual, have been placed under investigation by the police.

    Police Commissioner Lucius Thomas yesterday ordered a special investigation into the circumstances under which two lawmen discharged their firearms at a dance in St. Catherine early New Year's Day, according to Assistant Commissioner of Police (ACP) Denver Frater.

    Mr. Frater, the assistant commissioner in charge of crime, said that although the policemen have not been arrested, investigations are being conducted.

    "I am not able to speak definitely about the status of the investigations, but investigations are progressing," ACP Frater said.

    Two constables attached to the Spanish Town Police Station were reportedly among patrons at the Camp Fire stage show held Sunday night when they allegedly discharged their firearms in the air to celebrate the beginning of 2007. Their firearms have since been seized.

    In other reports, a man in Rema, St. Andrew, was allegedly killed and five other persons accidentally shot and injured in separate incidents throughout Jamaica shortly after the clock struck midnight on New Year's Eve.

    Conducting interviews

    "We are progressing very well, conducting interviews with a view to getting persons," ACP Frater said. "We are still unable to get the kind of information that can take us to the point of making proper charges or arrests. But based on dialogue, we are hoping that in the near future, we will be able to make a breakthrough."

    The discharge of a firearm without due cause, even by a licensed firearm holder, is a very serious breach of the law. However, it is often the norm for persons to fire a 'gun salute' at dances, funerals (especially those of renown area leaders), and at New Year's events.

    "We have sent persons to prison for this form of offence and in all cases, their firearm is revoked," ACP Frater said.

    Meanwhile, ACP Granville Gause, head of the Bureau of Special Investigations (BSI), said that this act occurs quite frequently.

    "Sadly, one of the main culprits of this act is police personnel. I can tell you this as we at BSI investigate these incidents on a regular basis," said ACP Gause.

    While the country may still be in the celebratory mood of the New Year season, the Jamaica Constabulary Force says it will be on the lookout for persons illegally discharging their firearms.

    "Our vigilance has now been increased around any activity that has the potential for 'gun salutes', with a view of arresting perpetrators," said ACP Frater.

    The ACP is however pleading with the persons who are witnesses of this illegal act to report it to the police.

    "The difficulty we are having is to get witnesses to come forward. What we need is to find perpetrators, arrest them and put them before the court," he said.

    Witnesses may report 'gun saluting' to Crime Stop at 311, Operation Kingfish at 811 or to 119.</DIV></DIV>


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    RE: Illegal gun salute - Probe into dangerous New Year tradition

    In fact it is quite unusual for thereNOT to be gun salutes at many dancehall shows.

    This gun loving generation will even fire up within an enclosed venue! Several years a low life dunce fired off his weapon a few yards from my person,and he almost ph@cked up my hearing.
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      RE: Illegal gun salute - Probe into dangerous New Year tradition

      this gun loving culture has to change... i think the police should fire and imprison any police officer who discharges his weapon without just cause...

      this would make certain that whenever the sound of gunshot is heard, everyone should assume that it is not the security forces or there is trouble... the police should vigorously investigate EVERY gunshot fired... if it is an event (doesnt matter the size, scope or importance) any unauthorized discharge of weapon should result in an immediate end to the event... this should be routine... doesn't matter if the event is in a garrison enclave, remote country townor in new kingston... if a report is made to the police that gunshot was discharged, the event should end immediately...

      the government and security forces should put the pressure on the (people within ) communities to end this nonsense...
      'to get what we've never had, we MUST do what we've never done'

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        RE: Illegal gun salute - Probe into dangerous New Year tradition

        Baddaz (1/4/2007)this gun loving culture has to change... i think the police should fire and imprison any police officer who discharges his weapon without just cause...
        It needs to be said that that should go for any cop who fires his weapon at a suspect when it's totally unwarranted.Because for some of us, carelessly firing in a gun salute is different than firing at suspects who are not capable of harming anyone. We have seen in the past where cops shoot people who are running away with a spliff.

        There is no difference!


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        • #5
          RE: Illegal gun salute - Probe into dangerous New Year tradition

          Mosiah (1/4/2007)
          Baddaz (1/4/2007)this gun loving culture has to change... i think the police should fire and imprison any police officer who discharges his weapon without just cause...
          It needs to be said that that should go for any cop who fires his weapon at a suspect when it's totally unwarranted.Because for some of us, carelessly firing in a gun salute is different than firing at suspects who are not capable of harming anyone. We have seen in the past where cops shoot people who are running away with a spliff.

          There is no difference!
          what was unsaid in my post but thought was understood... EVERY police officers weapons discharge should be investigated and justice served... a person running away with a splif doesnt need to be shot at... thats a situation where the investigative branch needs to render a decision after its investigation... there could be a litany of reasons in such a situation... was that person running away from the police with a splif in hand armed andwas seeking cover to fire on the police... thats just a scenario...

          the point is, investigate every police officer discharge of firearm and make necessary recommendations for justice...
          'to get what we've never had, we MUST do what we've never done'

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          • #6
            RE: Illegal gun salute - Probe into dangerous New Year tradition

            I understood you clearly. I just had to comment for the benefit of those who continue to excuse police misdeeds.


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