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  • #31
    And this:

    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/98-958.pdf (a very comprehensive document from FAS entitled: "Extradition To and From the United States: Overview of the Law and Recent Treaties")

    Extradition is triggered by a request submitted through diplomatic channels. In this country, it proceeds through the Departments of Justice and State and may be presented to a federal magistrate to order a hearing to determine whether the request is in compliance with an applicable treaty, whether it provides sufficient evidence to satisfy probable cause to believe that the fugitive committed the identified treaty offense(s), and whether other treaty requirements have been met. If so, the magistrate certifies the case for extradition at the discretion of the Secretary of State. Except as provided by treaty, the magistrate does not inquire into the nature of foreign proceedings likely to follow extradition.

    The laws of the country of refuge and the applicable extradition treaty govern extradition back to the United States of a fugitive located overseas. Requests travel through diplomatic channels and the treaty issue most likely to arise after extradition to this country is whether the extraditee has been tried for crimes other than those for which he or she was extradited. The fact that extradition was ignored and a fugitive forcibly returned to the United States for trial constitutes no jurisdictional impediment to trial or punishment. Federal and foreign immigration laws sometimes serve as an alternative to extradition to and from the United States.
    The laws of the country of refuge and the applicable extradition treaty govern extradition back to the United States of a fugitive located overseas. The request for extradition comes from the Department of State whether extradition is sought for trial in federal or state court or for execution of a criminal sentence under federal or state law.

    The Justice Department’s Office of International Affairs must approve requests for extradition of fugitives from federal charges or convictions and may be asked to review requests from state prosecutors before they are considered by the State Department. Provisions in the United States Attorneys Manual and the corresponding Justice Department’s Criminal Resource Manual sections supplement treaty instructions on the procedures to be followed in order to forward a request to the State Department.
    Prosecutors may request provisional arrest of a fugitive without waiting for the final preparation of the documentation required for a formal extradition request, if there is a risk of flight and if the treaty permits it. The Justice Department encourages judicious use of provisional arrest because
    of the pressures that may attend it. The Criminal Resource Manual contains the form for collection of the information that must accompany either a federal or state prosecutor’s application for a Justice Department request for provisional arrest.

    Although treaty requirements vary, the Justice Department suggests that prosecutors supply formal documentation in the form of an original and four copies of:

    - a prosecutor’s affidavit describing the facts of the case, including dates, names, docket numbers and citations, and preferably executed before a judge or magistrate (particularly if extradition is sought from a civil law country)

    - copies of the statutes the fugitive is said to have violated, the statutes governing the penalties that may be imposed upon conviction, and the applicable statute of limitations

    - if the fugitive has been convicted and sentenced: identification evidence; certified documentation of conviction, sentence, and the amount of time served and remaining to be served; copies of the statutes of conviction; and a statement that the service of the remaining sentence is not barred by a statute of limitations

    - if the fugitive is being sought for prosecution or sentencing: certified copies of the arrest warrant (preferably signed by the court or a magistrate) and of the indictment or complaint

    - if the fugitive is being sought for prosecution or sentencing: evidence of the identity of the individual sought (fingerprints/photographs) and of the evidence upon which the charges are based and of the fugitive’s guilt in the form of witness affidavits (preferable avoiding the use grand jury transcripts and, particularly in the case of extradition from a common law country,
    the use of hearsay).

    If the Justice Department approves the application for extradition, the request and documentation are forwarded to the State Department, translated if necessary, and with State Department approval forwarded through diplomatic channels to the country from which extradition is being
    sought.

    I don't recall being able to read the State Department's extradition request online alongside any certified copies of an arrest warrant and/or a prosecutor's affidavit.

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    • #32
      Really the US extradition request from the State Department is downloadable? I thought it was the Grand Jury indictment form the Southern District court in New York.

      Do you have a link?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Willi View Post
        I have stopped all speculation in this matter as there are too many inconsistencies all around. These 2 lawyers are not Dudus lawyers and are maybe in no position to be experts here. They are just giving opininions to the press. Based on what I dont know.

        Besides, as I stated, it the GOJ that issues an arrest warrant, not the US and the article seem to mx this up. Also, there is tons of info online about the extradition, so unless they detail what is found, it is safer not to use conjecture. There has been far too many accusations, reversals and re-reversals in these matters.
        And according to that 47 page document on "Extradition To and From the United States: Overview of the Law and Recent Treaties", the US seems obliged to issue an arrest warrant as well as part of the extradition request.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Willi View Post
          Where does it say warrant.

          I thought only the GOJ can issue a warrant. The US sends a request. THE US REQUEST is downloadable.
          nope...that's not the request...that's the indictment filed in a US court which is a public document

          the request is sent to the GOJ directly...the request is under the treaty and is not public
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          • #35
            Originally posted by ReggaeMike View Post
            Really the US extradition request from the State Department is downloadable? I thought it was the Grand Jury indictment form the Southern District court in New York.
            tenk yuh sah
            TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

            Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by ReggaeMike View Post
              The indictment by the Grand Jury in New York was publicly available and widely read. The extradition documents (presumably the extradition request and supporting documents/evidence) were not unless you or Bricky can give us a link for them.
              Lazie nuh bizniz wid truth...tribe dat ah defen
              TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

              Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

              D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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              • #37
                How my name call up in dis?

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                • #38
                  ReggaeMike can put dem tings deh pon a letterhead?


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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Bricktop View Post
                    How my name call up in dis?
                    See here:

                    Originally posted by Lazie View Post
                    Expected! Didn't Bricktop post the request on this very site? Unless yuh ago tell me Bricktop and Dudus a fren. By the way, wasn't it available on the Justice Department site as well?

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                      ReggaeMike can put dem tings deh pon a letterhead?
                      Which one? JLP, GOJ or the ones more appropriate to the actual websites hosting the information (Wikipedia and Federation of American Scientists)?

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                      • #41
                        him coulda all mek up one with Microsoft Paint! as long as it name letterhead, wi can believe it!


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                        • #42
                          Yow fire pon dat. The second source I provided is so well sourced that if anybody want a letterhead for it then they will never believe anything except what they want to believe (and probably wouldn't believe it even if it came with a hundred letterheads). The authors even left contact information because I guess they must be idle enough to take complaints from people who wouldn't believe a word of what they wrote - anybody have a problem with it can contact them directly.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Don1 View Post
                            Lazie nuh bizniz wid truth...tribe dat ah defen
                            Should that be Lazie or Don1? Nothing about this case was ever kept in secret, there are ppl on other sites saying they saw the document so this story is nothing new, so I guess they too aren't interested in the truth.
                            "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                              ReggaeMike can put dem tings deh pon a letterhead?
                              Well the JD official site should be enough. But carry on.
                              "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Lazie View Post
                                Should that be Lazie or Don1? Nothing about this case was ever kept in secret, there are ppl on other sites saying they saw the document so this story is nothing new, so I guess they too aren't interested in the truth.
                                what's "the document" Lazie?? what's it called?
                                TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                                Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                                D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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