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    No Apology, No Resignation
    Published: Monday | May 17, 20100 Comments and 0 Reactions

    Prime Minister Bruce Golding (right) strategises with Sports Minister Olivia Grange and party Chairman Dr Ken Baugh, the deputy PM, at Sandals Grande yesterday. The PM did not face the press yesterday and security officials often blocked photographers. - Ian Allen/Photographer
    Daraine Luton, Senior Staff Reporter

    Prime Minister Bruce Golding will tonight face the nation in a televised address less than 24 hours after the Central Executive - the nerve centre of his governing Jamaica Labour Party (JLP) - snubbed calls for him to quit because of an about-face on wranglings involving an alleged gangster.

    The JLP has instead turned its attention to detractors who, it said, were attempting to crucify the self-proclaimed 'chief servant'. It argued that he did nothing wrong in the controversy surrounding the United States extradition request for Christopher 'Dudus' Coke - wanted in the United States on drug and gun charges - and the contracting of the US law firm Manatt, Phelps & Phillips.

    This sparked an immediate angry response from the Opposition People's National Party.

    "The statements by both JLP officers at a press conference yesterday reflect an outrageous contempt and disregard for the Jamaican people and the powerful positions expressed by several national and civil-society groups," said Opposition Leader Portia Simpson Miller.

    She said the statements were also "indicative of disregard for the established traditions of our democracy".

    According to Simpson Miller, the JLP had exhibited a lack of understanding that public confidence and consent were the foundation of a legitimate democracy.

    The opposition leader was responding to JLP General Secretary Karl Samuda and Chairman Dr Ken Baugh, who earlier told a post-Central Executive press briefing in Ocho Rios, St Ann, that Golding was not stepping down.

    According to Samuda, Golding did not lie to Parliament, and he argued that calls for the PM's head were coming because he was standing up to the US in a matter involving Coke.

    "We must not seek to crucify the prime minister because he defends the laws of the land simply because you don't like the person who is involved at this time. At no time, to my certain knowledge, has he ever attempted to defend the activities that led to the request for extradition," argued Samuda.

    But that seemed at odds with the pronouncement by Baugh that Golding offered his resignation "because it was the right thing to do".

    Baugh said the party rejected Golding's resignation but gave no explanation why that decision was made if, indeed, "it was the right thing to do".

    Golding has been under pressure since last Tuesday when he admitted in Parliament that he, as party leader, sanctioned a move by the JLP to engage Manatt, Phelps & Phillips to lobby the US State Department on the extradition request for 'Dudus'.

    However, Samuda yesterday argued that all aspects of the Manatt mess and the extradition issue were considered by the party.

    According to Samuda, the endorsement of Golding was unanimous.

    "We realise that there has been a fundamental weakness in the way we have communicated the facts of this issue to the public. For that, we may stand indicted. However, we do not feel that rises to the level that requires the resignation of the prime minister," Samuda said.

    According to the JLP general secretary, he was aware that the people of Jamaica were extremely disappointed. He also sought to defend the party's involvement in the matter.

    According to Samuda, the JLP did not enter into discussions with Manatt to get the US government to withdraw its request for Coke's extradition. He said the engagement was to establish meaningful dialogue, which was missing because there was an obvious conflict.

    "What we sought to do was to get assistance in influencing those decision makers as to how best to approach the breach of the treaty which has occurred."

    Meanwhile, Baugh insisted that Golding has opened the microphone to dissenting voices within the JLP.

    "The prime minister has encouraged his team to speak openly and very frankly to him so that he can have a good feel of the deeper sentiments of the members of the Jamaica Labour Party. So far, the outcome is very supportive of the prime minister, a refusal to accept any resignation from him," Baugh said.

    He added: "The body politic of this party feels that very important initiatives have been started and that they have been highly successful and that they are transformative and augur well for the future of this country," he added.

    daraine.luton@gleanerjm.com


    BLACK LIVES MATTER

  • #2
    The lies continue

    Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
    According to Samuda, the JLP did not enter into discussions with Manatt to get the US government to withdraw its request for Coke's extradition. He said the engagement was to establish meaningful dialogue, which was missing because there was an obvious conflict.

    "What we sought to do was to get assistance in influencing those decision makers as to how best to approach the breach of the treaty which has occurred."
    LIE: Bruce sanctioned the Manatt initiative long before they themselves came with this "breach of treaty" defence. It is clear that, given the timelines, they had made up their minds that Dudus was going no where.


    Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
    Meanwhile, Baugh insisted that Golding has opened the microphone to dissenting voices within the JLP.
    That would be the noble, patriotic thing to do. Labourites are fully aware though that cutting across the grain may cost them their lives. Let's see the courageous one stand up for country.


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    • #3
      Has any polls been conducted reagarding the relevant issues, how (real boss), Jamaica as a whole feels?
      Waiting on Bruce, why?





      Blessed

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
        No Apology, No Resignation
        Published: Monday | May 17, 20100 Comments and 0 Reactions

        Prime Minister Bruce Golding (right) strategises with Sports Minister Olivia Grange and party Chairman Dr Ken Baugh, the deputy PM, at Sandals Grande yesterday. The PM did not face the press yesterday and security officials often blocked photographers. - Ian Allen/Photographer
        Daraine Luton, Senior Staff Reporter

        Prime Minister Bruce Golding will tonight face the nation in a televised address less than 24 hours after the Central Executive - the nerve centre of his governing Jamaica Labour Party (JLP) - snubbed calls for him to quit because of an about-face on wranglings involving an alleged gangster.

        The JLP has instead turned its attention to detractors who, it said, were attempting to crucify the self-proclaimed 'chief servant'. It argued that he did nothing wrong in the controversy surrounding the United States extradition request for Christopher 'Dudus' Coke - wanted in the United States on drug and gun charges - and the contracting of the US law firm Manatt, Phelps & Phillips.

        This sparked an immediate angry response from the Opposition People's National Party.

        "The statements by both JLP officers at a press conference yesterday reflect an outrageous contempt and disregard for the Jamaican people and the powerful positions expressed by several national and civil-society groups," said Opposition Leader Portia Simpson Miller.

        She said the statements were also "indicative of disregard for the established traditions of our democracy".

        According to Simpson Miller, the JLP had exhibited a lack of understanding that public confidence and consent were the foundation of a legitimate democracy.

        The opposition leader was responding to JLP General Secretary Karl Samuda and Chairman Dr Ken Baugh, who earlier told a post-Central Executive press briefing in Ocho Rios, St Ann, that Golding was not stepping down.

        According to Samuda, Golding did not lie to Parliament, and he argued that calls for the PM's head were coming because he was standing up to the US in a matter involving Coke.

        "We must not seek to crucify the prime minister because he defends the laws of the land simply because you don't like the person who is involved at this time. At no time, to my certain knowledge, has he ever attempted to defend the activities that led to the request for extradition," argued Samuda.

        But that seemed at odds with the pronouncement by Baugh that Golding offered his resignation "because it was the right thing to do".

        Baugh said the party rejected Golding's resignation but gave no explanation why that decision was made if, indeed, "it was the right thing to do".

        Golding has been under pressure since last Tuesday when he admitted in Parliament that he, as party leader, sanctioned a move by the JLP to engage Manatt, Phelps & Phillips to lobby the US State Department on the extradition request for 'Dudus'.

        However, Samuda yesterday argued that all aspects of the Manatt mess and the extradition issue were considered by the party.

        According to Samuda, the endorsement of Golding was unanimous.

        "We realise that there has been a fundamental weakness in the way we have communicated the facts of this issue to the public. For that, we may stand indicted. However, we do not feel that rises to the level that requires the resignation of the prime minister," Samuda said.

        According to the JLP general secretary, he was aware that the people of Jamaica were extremely disappointed. He also sought to defend the party's involvement in the matter.

        According to Samuda, the JLP did not enter into discussions with Manatt to get the US government to withdraw its request for Coke's extradition. He said the engagement was to establish meaningful dialogue, which was missing because there was an obvious conflict.

        "What we sought to do was to get assistance in influencing those decision makers as to how best to approach the breach of the treaty which has occurred."

        Meanwhile, Baugh insisted that Golding has opened the microphone to dissenting voices within the JLP.

        "The prime minister has encouraged his team to speak openly and very frankly to him so that he can have a good feel of the deeper sentiments of the members of the Jamaica Labour Party. So far, the outcome is very supportive of the prime minister, a refusal to accept any resignation from him," Baugh said.

        He added: "The body politic of this party feels that very important initiatives have been started and that they have been highly successful and that they are transformative and augur well for the future of this country," he added.

        daraine.luton@gleanerjm.com
        With the JLP standing on collective responsibility and unwilling to dump Golding...it is clear the call at some point has to be for the entire Government to resign and call new elections. One way or another it is also clear that this will be a one term affair for the JLP in power.

        Once again, the JLP is imploding and allowing the PNP to have a chance at power without having to reform itself and get rid of its extensive dead wood and come forward with new people and new ideas.

        Beyond pathetic.
        TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

        Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

        D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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        • #5
          The party has no appreciation for history, the looong drought sitting on the sidelines is clearly Jakans punishing the JLP for failing to be an option to the PNP.
          Both parties created the garrison mentality,are aligned to donmanship, and are blameworthy for the deplorable conditions in Ja.
          They both benefit from the prevailing, unprogressive two major party..that adversely affects most nations.We need to have the initiative.


          Blessed

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mosiah View Post

            According to Samuda, Golding did not lie to Parliament, and he argued that calls for the PM's head were coming because he was standing up to the US in a matter involving Coke.

            "We must not seek to crucify the prime minister because he defends the laws of the land simply because you don't like the person who is involved at this time. At no time, to my certain knowledge, has he ever attempted to defend the activities that led to the request for extradition," argued Samuda.
            So wait, how that square with Tavares-Finson saying the charges against Mr. Coke are ludicrous? So Samuda saying these activities did occur?

            All these Freudian slips.

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            • #7
              the country is in total disarray as it tries to rearrange all these slips that keep taking place, on account of this very tangled web of lies and deceit that has been weaved by bruce golding.


              BLACK LIVES MATTER

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              • #8
                "It takes cash to care"

                Mi nuh know how long it gwine tek tuh sink inna people brain.

                If you do not solve the economic problem it matters not the lofty positions taken..

                Lofty positions hold no sway in a State that has no money to attend to critical matters of Govt..

                "Lack of Money is the root of all evil".....

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                • #9
                  and the money will roll in as people, left, right and center, are being cut down by criminals who may have been funded and/or armed by our untouchable dons.

                  Waiter! Is that lipstick or blood on my latte cup?


                  BLACK LIVES MATTER

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                    Waiter! Is that lipstick or blood on my latte cup?
                    A little bit of both sir!

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                    • #11
                      yuh a tek serious ting mek joke!

                      heh heh!


                      BLACK LIVES MATTER

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                      • #12
                        unnuh know say badman dont apologize?

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                        • #13
                          may have been ???

                          heh, heh.. a crack in yuh armour ahready...

                          Yuh nuh hear 1of1 seh dowtown safe.. who mek it safe ?

                          lol !

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                            and the money will roll in as people, left, right and center, are being cut down by criminals who may have been funded and/or armed by our untouchable dons.

                            Waiter! Is that lipstick or blood on my latte cup?
                            ****************! Chemical guh as far as fi wear lipstick now?

                            not in fi mi cabinet! LoL!
                            TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                            Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                            D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Maudib View Post
                              may have been ???

                              heh, heh.. a crack in yuh armour ahready...

                              Yuh nuh hear 1of1 seh dowtown safe.. who mek it safe ?

                              lol !
                              not bruce, mi sure a dat.

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