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  • #76
    and what is your excuse ??

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Maudib View Post
      and what is your excuse ??
      who ah chat tuh yuh...
      TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

      Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

      D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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      • #78
        Here we disagree his position of Power could be much stronger if he was not an M.P of Tivoli.

        Is his position of power strong now ? as he sits at this moment rumours of expulsion , impeachment and resingnation abounds.Poor choices of alternatives for a leader to make as M.P from the garden and .P.M

        You could easily make a case that if he was M.P fron any other area he could manuver himself out of the mess alot more safely , right now he is stuck in deep Sh*t and its growing .The alternatives by the day gets bleaker.I will add and Jamaica would appreciate him more for it, not just T.G , the JLP but Jamaica and the diaspora.

        Call me crazy but I believe that any true progressive leader can run di ting without T.G as its base , because the dismantaling of garrisons, social contract , diaspora involvement, constitutional change of true voter represational politics etc would require that T.G be run as part of Jamaica , not a state within a state.
        THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

        "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


        "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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        • #79
          Here we disagree his position of Power could be much stronger if he was not an M.P of Tivoli.
          Nope. Is like yuh nuh kno how di JLP run. Case in point:

          Wen im guh ah conference...wich bad man ah guh back im if Tivoli support ah nex guy?

          Is his position of power strong now ? as he sits at this moment rumours of expulsion , impeachment and resingnation abounds.Poor choices of alternatives for a leader to make as M.P from the garden.
          I don't know the internal wranglings of the JLP so I can't state his strength within that party...rumours of revolt notwithstanding.

          What I know is that he is strengthened within the party by virtue of being MP for West Kingston....and not some backwater.
          You could easily make a case that if he was M.P fron any other area he could manuver himself out of the mess alot more safely , right now he is stuck in deep Sh*t and its growing .The alternatives by the day gets bleaker.
          Let's not confuse maneuvering within the party and maneuvering to extricate his regime from the self created mess.

          Within the party he can DEFINITELY maneuver with strength due to the Tivoli association.
          In GOJ affairs with the US re the extradition case...he is weakened and seen as compromised by the same association.

          Apples & oranges.
          Call me crazy but I believe that any true progressive leader can run di ting without T.G as its base , because the dismantaling of garrisons, social contract , diaspora involvement, constitutional change of true voter represational politics etc would require that T.G be run as part of Jamaica , not a state within a state.
          Dream on.
          Last edited by Don1; May 12, 2010, 02:25 PM.
          TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

          Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

          D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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          • #80
            lol !

            WOEE !

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            • #81
              well Miss london wouldn't you say the real test is dealing with it. If we cant we have failed as a state.

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              • #82
                gamma why are you making sense? Its ironic that the us is worried about guns acquire in th u.s to be shipped to j.a and we are not and had evidence of such and is not acting... if you really look at this you see the pic.

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                • #83
                  Word on the street is Bruce with all his support of Duduss has no support in T.G from the common man , none whatsoever!

                  One common theme I am hearing is Eddie would have dealt with it differently , meaning DUDUSS DEAD LONG TIME !

                  Bruce Support in T.G is from Duduss gunmen in T.G , not the law abiding citizens of the garden that want visas !
                  THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

                  "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


                  "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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                  • #84
                    Which street is that word on? 125th Street?
                    "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by X View Post
                      Word on the street is Bruce with all his support of Duduss has no support in T.G from the common man , none whatsoever!

                      One common theme I am hearing is Eddie would have dealt with it differently , meaning DUDUSS DEAD LONG TIME !

                      Bruce Support in T.G is from Duduss gunmen in T.G , not the law abiding citizens of the garden that want visas !
                      errr... didn't I say that the gunmen in Tivoli are a source of his strength in the party... and the ultimate guarantor of party discipline?

                      Thanks for the affirmation
                      TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                      Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                      D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Maudib View Post
                        which requires spending lots of time in Jamaica... ?

                        lol.
                        yep... until the internet acquires augmented reality... maybe with 7G level bandwidth
                        TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                        Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                        D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Islandman View Post
                          Which street is that word on? 125th Street?
                          LoL!
                          TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                          Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                          D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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                          • #88
                            lol !

                            This is getting better and better..

                            You have a fertile imagination.. that's for sure..

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Maudib View Post
                              lol !

                              This is getting better and better..

                              You have a fertile imagination.. that's for sure..
                              thanks!
                              TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                              Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                              D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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                              • #90
                                Don 1 you are arguing as If any potential M.P for P.M has to seek T.G Gunmen blessing to govern , that is just not the case .

                                These rumours are a sign of smoke and where you see smoke you see fiyah.You have admitted alot with the below statement , rumours of revolt means the party isnt happy and if as you claim it centers on T.G ....then you can conclude the obvious , T.G influence isnt what you think it is.

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                                Is his position of power strong now ? as he sits at this moment rumours of expulsion , impeachment and resingnation abounds.Poor choices of alternatives for a leader to make as M.P from the garden.


                                I don't know the internal wranglings of the JLP so I can't state his strength within that party...rumours of revolt notwithstanding.
                                THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

                                "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


                                "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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