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    Getting tough - Minister Nelson says stiffanti-gang laws to be unveiled


    NATIONAL SECURITY Minister Dwight Nelson yesterday said the Government would be seeking to institute draconian anti-gang measures to assist the police in their fight against crime.

    "I want to warn that we are coming with a piece of legislation to dismantle gangs which is going to be a bit draconian and I know we are going to face some opposition, but this Government, once and for all, will take the kind of drastic step necessary to end the cycle of crime," Nelson said.

    "This is the only approach the Government can take to tame this monster," he added.

    No preferential treatment

    The national security minister, who was addressing delegates at a Jamaica Labour Party (JLP) Area Council One meeting in Olympic Gardens, West Central St Andrew, said the Government would execute its anti-gang strategy "without fear or favour".

    However, coordinator for Amnesty International in Jamaica, Carla Gullotta, has cautioned against any legislation that would infringe on people's basic rights.

    "Everybody will agree that Jamaica needs something serious, but I don't think people will agree with the idea that to do that you are going to step on people's rights," she said.

    In addition, she said if the Government was going to be serious about dismantling gangs, it also had to look at the relationship between politics and gangs.

    "That is the first thing you have to be serious about and don't sympathise because it's the constituency of one or the constituency of the other one," Gullotta said.

    Most murderous nation

    Police statistics showed that 879 or 52 per cent of the record 1,680 murders committed last year were gang related, a huge jump from the 736 gang-related murders reported the previous year.

    Jamaica is locked in a photo finish with El Salvador as being the most murderous place in the world.

    Yesterday, Nelson refused to give details of the anti-gang pact he plans to take to Parliament. He, however, said that he would outline his intentions when he speaks in the Senate on Friday.

    Opposition Spokesman on National Security Peter Bunting has said he would wait to hear details of Nelson's plan before commenting.

    Dr Herbert Gayle, a social anthologist, has said the Government must be careful how it goes about implementing anti-crime strategies.

    "Any move me make, we have to be very careful. It has to be well thought out. It requires experts to sit down with Government, which will not necessarily bring results at the snap of a finger, but it is going to show results in the medium and long term," Gayle told The Gleaner.

    The Bruce Golding-led JLP, which has been struggling to keep crime under control, has attempted legislative reforms as a mean of taming the beast.

    In 2008, the Golding administration crafted six anti-crime legislative measures and took them to Parliament to get them passed into law.

    However, the Parliamentary opposition did not lend its support to the bills which sought to amend the Bail Act, the Parole Act, as well as to create interim provisions for the arrest and detention of persons.

    "I regret that these measures were not enacted," Golding said in Parliament last year.

    http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/glean...ead/lead1.html
    "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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    Boy unuh a tek fi ever fi address this matter. What if the obstructionists continue on their regular path? Won't we still be stuck at square one?
    "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Lazie View Post
      Boy unuh a tek fi ever fi address this matter. What if the obstructionists continue on their regular path? Won't we still be stuck at square one?
      Much ado over nothing. New laws will have little impact on the crime situation.... we have 40 years of history to demonstrate that.

      All the politicians are stupid...period.
      TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

      Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

      D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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      • #4
        knowing the obstructionists exists, he should have taken care of this from day 1.


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        • #5
          Originally posted by Don1 View Post
          Much ado over nothing. New laws will have little impact on the crime situation.... we have 40 years of history to demonstrate that.

          All the politicians are stupid...period.
          Little impact? Lets see, how much impact did the RICO laws have on crime in places like NY? I didn't see in the article where there was an indication that this was the sole solution, but when a gang leader is behind bars and all the witnesses against him are killed it is clear that the gangs are a big problem.
          "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
            knowing the obstructionists exists, he should have taken care of this from day 1.
            From day 1? Did you need to post a sarcastic icon?
            "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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            • #7
              is not the laws, is the will or lack of will based on how the corruption flows. all the laws in the world won't make a difference if the JCF hierarchy is corrupt

              Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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              • #8
                huh?!?


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                • #9
                  New laws will not have any impact on gangs when you have high ranking members of the JLP & PNP who are deeply involved and have links with political thugs.
                  Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else - Vince Lombardi

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Lazie View Post
                    Little impact? Lets see, how much impact did the RICO laws have on crime in places like NY? I didn't see in the article where there was an indication that this was the sole solution, but when a gang leader is behind bars and all the witnesses against him are killed it is clear that the gangs are a big problem.
                    This is not New York.... get real...yuh watch tuh much movie.

                    In Jamaica crime & garrison communities etc are interwoven with the political & business leadership of the country...there is no boundary between crime & politics.

                    Garrisons and gangs and associated mass criminality.... are how the political class controls different sections of the country and ensures that their tribe has some power.... and a chance to win elections.

                    This is why the stupid politicians have little appetite to take the real actions necessary to reduce crime.... they fear that their own power bases will be destroyed...... then where will their tribe be?

                    Again we have 40+ years of crime plans, draconian laws etc which don't work because they don't address the root problem... political reform...breaking the partisan stranglehold of the tribes.

                    Enough of the superficial crap.
                    TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                    Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                    D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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                    • #11
                      Lazie hear bout di extradition request for Mr. Coke?


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Don1 View Post
                        This is not New York.... get real...yuh watch tuh much movie.

                        In Jamaica crime & garrison communities etc are interwoven with the political & business leadership of the country...there is no boundary between crime & politics.

                        Garrisons and gangs and associated mass criminality.... are how the political class controls different sections of the country and ensures that their tribe has some power.... and a chance to win elections.

                        This is why the stupid politicians have little appetite to take the real actions necessary to reduce crime.... they fear that their own power bases will be destroyed...... then where will their tribe be?

                        Again we have 40+ years of crime plans, draconian laws etc which don't work because they don't address the root problem... political reform...breaking the partisan stranglehold of the tribes.

                        Enough of the superficial crap.
                        People must can walk and sing at the same time. After seeing what led to Tesha Miller being back on the streets I hope the call some time last year for laws like the RICO law in Jamaica is finally coming.
                        "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                          Lazie hear bout di extradition request for Mr. Coke?
                          What about it? Instead of removing the head of the snake we should looking to 'kill' the snake.
                          "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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                          • #14
                            okay. yuh lost mi wid dat one. who or what is the snake?


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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                              okay. yuh lost mi wid dat one. who or what is the snake?
                              Dudus get extradicted someone else is going to step in. Putting all or majority of the members of the 'organization' behind bars would be much better to addressing the problem.
                              "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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