The last item in the PM's New Year's Message

[Peter R]

Exactly!

[Muadib]

yuh can whistle and walk at the same time ?

[Exile]

Yu could READ and reason???

[Muadib]

can a politician also lead ?

It is obvious what di man duh.. him tell wi seh tings bad but him throw in a likkle jab pon di opposition (dem memory short)..

Now stop being obtuse...

[Exile]

Oh....a spar him a spar??? Gwan go listen some Bob today and be inspired. Stop defend idiot ting.

[Don1]

2005 was the peak year no?

In any case 2008 is a much better reference to use.

That was a stupid, useless, self serving reference... a silly red herring..

The point is crime is tremendously high even with police reforms & a new administration which came in with lofty claims of efficiency and instant reductions in crime....an administration which has seen 3 security ministers in less than 2 years.

The sooner Golding drops the partisan red herrings and deals with reality...the better.

[Muadib]

lol !

Clearly you are naive then... guh read up on Politics in a Democracy..

Mi waan know how yuh have voice all of a sudden.. yuh shoulda be hoarse by now after the debacle of the previous Administration.. that was PURE politics..

[Muadib]

instant reductions in crime ?

send wi a link nuh... sound strange..

[Mosiah]

okay. slash "instant".

[Willi]

The reality has been there since the 1990s.

Why the sudden panic and exasperation? Jamaica flared up in 1980, fell back for 10 years or so then built to a crescendo in 2005. It has dropped a bit since then, but remains HUGE.

I dont see anything big in Golding's statement. I see a problem in his lack of results!

[Mosiah]

The reality has been there since the 1990s.

Why the sudden panic and exasperation? Jamaica flared up in 1980, fell back for 10 years or so then built to a crescendo in 2005. It has dropped a bit since then, but remains HUGE.

I dont see anything big in Golding's statement. I see a problem in his lack of results!

Dropped a bit since then?!? Willi?!?

[Willi]

2005 was peak year...every year since then was lower....under Sista P and Brucie.

[Mosiah]

by mere 10s! that is nothing to cite as improvement or lower!

at the start of New Year's Eve, we had 1660 murders. The record is 1678. If we kill 4 at least per day, we should have ended with 1664, 14 less than the record. Is dat anyting fi boast bout?!?!

[Willi]

What boast...read the quote again!

18 lives less lost is an improvement no matter how you slice it.

Equally, anything over 200 murders is a stain on our national soul.

[Exile]

Good to laugh. I'm too old to be naive. Democracy? What's that? You advocate that? I hv voice all the while....I have time now..I'm at home...
Maudib - is there ANY way to discuss Jamaica out of a political (PNP vs. JLP) context? - just asking.