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    Exporting shame - Jamaicans under pressure as Costa Rican authorities crack down on island thugs

    Published: Tuesday | December 1, 2009



    Jamaicans living in Costa Rica are facing more visa restrictions today as that country's government responds to an upsurge in crime, allegedly linked to gangs from the island.
    With the new regime, Jamaicans living in Costa Rica will be required to submit their cases to the Immigration Administration in downtown San José for special review.
    Though not outlining the new measures in detail, Mario Zamora, head of Immigration Administration in Costa Rica, announced the restrictions recently in what he said was a reaction to major crimes committed by thugs from Jamaica.
    While acknowledging that the majority of the Jamaican gangsters were not in Costa Rica legally and would not be caught under the new restrictions, Zamora said his administration still thinks the new measures are an important step in reducing climbing homicide rates.
    "But the details of (each case) will be taken into consideration," Zamora added.
    The new rule comes into effect days after the Costa Rican government imposed a ban on new weapons permits to all foreigners and an exhaustive review of all existing firearm permits held by foreigners.
    Targeting gangsters
    Those measures were also said to target gangsters from Jamaica, although official figures show that of the approximately 2,000 foreign nationals or legal residents with firearm permits in Costa Rica, only four are Jamaicans.
    The Costa Rican authorities say the clampdown is directly related to the fatal shooting of 20-year-old student Milena Madriz and police officer Randall Lopez.
    According to authorities, Madriz, the daughter of the Dominican Republic ambassador to Costa Rica, was killed by a stray bullet on October 29 in a conflict between Jamaican gangs.
    Thirty-year-old Lopez was killed on November 3 in a shoot-out allegedly with Jamaicans, who opened fire on the police with AK-47 rifles in San Antonio de Escazu, a mountain village north-west of San José. The AK-47 bullet pierced the policeman's vest, which was not designed to stop that type of ammunition.
    Not isolated events
    Four Jamaicans have been taken into custody in connection with the two killings. A machine pistol and at least two AK-47 rifles were reportedly taken from the four.
    Jorge Rojas, director of Costa Rica's Judicial Investigation Police (OIJ), reportedly told a newspaper the two incidents involving Jamaicans were not isolated events.
    "This country has a very open policy when it relates to receiving people. Some come to invest, others to kill," Rojas said.
    Costa Rica's Caribbean coast is where the colonising Spaniards first arrived, but it is the Jamaicans, more recent arrivals, who have had perhaps the biggest impact.
    In sections of the country, reggae has overtaken salsa, spicy jerk pork and chicken have replaced the usual dishes, and Caribbean English with a distinct Jamaican accent is heard as often as Spanish.
    According to the Costa Rican media, the reputations of Jamaicans in that country started to take a hit in 2006 when gangsters launched a reign of terror in the country.
    Gangs identified
    Costa Rican investigators say they have identified two of the Jamaican gangs believed responsible for killings in Costa Rica, including the murder of Nehru Trace Haughton, who was gunned down in April 2007 in a taxi near the La Gallito in Goicoechea.
    Lionel Perkins, who is in police custody facing two murder charges, is believed to be the leader of one of the gangs. Another alleged gang leader, McGordon Kirkpatrick, was killed in a shoot-out with the police.
    A 17-year-old Jamaican youth was also detained recently and is in preventive detention. Yesterday, The Gleaner was unsuccessful in its efforts to contact Jamaica's honorary consul in Costa Rica.

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    Answer: I Doubt It

    Originally posted by Willi View Post
    Jamaicans living in Costa Rica are facing more visa restrictions today as that country's government responds to an upsurge in crime, allegedly linked to gangs from the island.
    With the new regime, Jamaicans living in Costa Rica will be required to submit their cases to the Immigration Administration in downtown San José for special review.
    Not likely anytime soon, Willi.

    The fact is that over the past several decades we have cultivated and encouraged rampant slackness and gross indiscipline within our society, all within the broader context of a disfigured, distorted and misguided culture. In the meantime, we excuse our unbelievably high level of belligerence, arrogance and socio-economic failures with euphemisms, metaphors and hyperbole. Underneath it all, though, is the truly sad reality that a country with so much promise in terms of human and material resources, so much potential greatness (we could have been, today, the shining Jewel of the Caribbean), has instead become, in the 21st century, an albatross around the necks of so many other countries and peoples!

    Many Jamaicans are still not able to see where we went wrong, and where we are still going wrong! Rather, sweet sounding excuses for the rampant slackness and increasing anti-social attitudes and behaviour that permeate our society spill from our tongues like honey!

    The bottom line, for those who hold Jamaican passports, is that more and more visa and other restrictions will be coming in th near future as countries try to protect their populace from the misguided Jamaicans! The supreme irony is that such Jamaicans are decidedly in the minority!! Nevertheless, restrictions will increase as sure as day follows night! With our unfortunate reputation in North America, Latin America (Costa Rica), the Caribbean and Great Britain, a reputation that has been meticulously crafted over many, many years, can you blame the authorities when they apply the law in their sovereign nations?

    Bottom line: we are focked! End of story!
    Last edited by Historian; December 1, 2009, 07:11 AM.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Historian View Post
      Not likely anytime soon, Willi.

      The fact is that over the past several decades we have cultivated and encouraged rampant slackness and gross indiscipline within our society, all within the broader context of a disfigured, distorted and misguided culture. In the meantime, we excuse our unbelievably high level of belligerence, arrogance and socio-economic failures with euphemisms, metaphors and hyperbole. Underneath it all, though, is the truly sad reality that a country with so much promise in terms of human and material resources, so much potential greatness (we could have been, today, the shining Jewel of the Caribbean), has instead become, in the 21st century, an albatross around the necks of so many other countries and peoples!

      Many Jamaicans are still not able to see where we went wrong, and where we are still going wrong! Rather, sweet sounding excuses for the rampant slackness and increasing anti-social attitudes and behaviour that permeate our society spill from our tongues like honey!

      The bottom line, for those who hold Jamaican passports, is that more and more visa and other restrictions will be coming in th near future as countries try to protect their populace from the misguided Jamaicans! The supreme irony is that such Jamaicans are decidedly in the minority!! Nevertheless, restrictions will increase as sure as day follows night! With our unfortunate reputation in North America, Latin America (Costa Rica), the Caribbean and Great Britain, a reputation that has been meticulously crafted over many, many years, can you blame the authorities when they apply the law in their sovereign nations?

      Bottom line: we are focked! End of story!
      I feel your pain. Your posts on Jamaica seem to be universally negative....much of which may be justified. But your overall attitude appears defeatist.

      We are Jamaica....every one of us born there.

      Are you currently doing or willing to do anything to help the country?

      Or is your above bottom line where you start...and stop?
      TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

      Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

      D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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      • #4
        All this as my friend in NY takes his wife to Costa Rica today in celebration of her birthday. I hope they have a good time, despite this negative news.


        BLACK LIVES MATTER

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        • #5
          I hope so too.

          I was there in 2000 and they were VERY friendly to Jamaicans!

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          • #6
            Everywhey dem ppl yah guh dem cause problems. So when the criminals are kicked out of the U.K., Canada, USA, various Caribbean islands etc and they end up back in Jamaica, what happens? No wonder the country have such a high crime rate. Pretty soon nobody naah guh want nuh Jamaicans fi come a dem country.
            "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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            • #7
              including jamaica!!!

              Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Gamma View Post
                including jamaica!!!
                sometimes wi affi tek serious tink mek joke!
                "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                  I hope they have a good time, despite this negative news.
                  This must be the most comical post I have seen in ages boss. It is like the pot calling the kettle black to ****************. This is just a logical step in the exportation of crime from Jamaica. Is there anywhere in the world that has more negative news than Jamaica?
                  Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else - Vince Lombardi

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                  • #10
                    What Focking Pain??!!

                    Originally posted by Don1 View Post
                    I feel your pain. Your posts on Jamaica seem to be universally negative....much of which may be justified. But your overall attitude appears defeatist.

                    We are Jamaica....every one of us born there.

                    Are you currently doing or willing to do anything to help the country?

                    Or is your above bottom line where you start...and stop?
                    Don1, you no doubt realize by now that my life’s interest, and the way I make my living, is by writing. You will no doubt, therefore, understand what I’m implying here when I say that if I had posted my original well-written response to you, which I (thankfully) deleted at the last minute, then the moderators here – EVERY single one of them – would have been forced to either delete my response or ban me from this focking forum!!

                    But, like I said, I deleted my original post a minute or two before submitting it .

                    But in the meantime, bredrin, please always bear this in mind: If my posts choose to be “universally negative,” then that is, without question, my constitutional free-speech right! I see very little to be positive about as far as Jamaica in 2009 is concerned, and your sh!t will not change that!!

                    Secondly, if I’m “currently doing or willing to do anything to help the country,” there is nothing in Jamaica’s Constitution (which, I can assure you, I have thoroughly perused, each focking sensible as well as stupid chapter and article, in the past) that compels me to reveal these personal intentions on an Internet message board!!!!!!!

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                    • #11
                      di rate how we ago we might soon need visa fi go lime cay to rha.

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                      • #12
                        HUH!? Is this news from Costa Rica positive? For anyone, we or dem?!?!

                        Horty, mi nuh have nuh time fi it dis mawnin. Talk to Lazie.


                        BLACK LIVES MATTER

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                        • #13
                          den dat nuh happen arready!?


                          BLACK LIVES MATTER

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                          • #14
                            for someone who writes for a living, i'm a little surprised you can't spell that simple word!


                            BLACK LIVES MATTER

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                              for someone who writes for a living, i'm a little surprised you can't spell that simple word!
                              Ouch,easy no man. Morning sah. How the digits go, would like to talk to the I.

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