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    Time to leave Privy Council

    KEN CHAPLIN
    Tuesday, October 06, 2009

    Justice Seymour Panton is a well-respected High Court judge. He is president of Jamaica's Court of Appeal. He balances the scales of justice to a remarkable degree and he is articulate. However, he was way out of line in his recent comments that the only people who are interested in retaining the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council are murderers, the very wealthy and people with a colonial mentality.


    KEN CHAPLIN
    Justice Panton was reacting to the statement by Lord Nicholas Phillips, president of Britain's new Supreme Court that Britain's top judges are being diverted from the task of modernising that country's legal system by spending a disproportionate amount of time hearing appeals from independent Commonwealth countries like Jamaica. It should be pointed out that the Privy Council does the work free of cost.

    Justice Panton's statement is misleading and makes no sense at all, to say the least. The poor people of Jamaica seem to have more confidence in the Privy Council than in Jamaica's Court of Appeal because they believe they get justice from the Privy Council, especially in murder cases and legal action against the government. I believe that Jamaican judges since independence have shed most of their pro-establishment stance as demonstrated by judges like Sir Colin McGregor, a former chief justice. Today's high court judges have no such proclivity and whatever errors they make in their judgements are sometimes due to misinterpretation of the law or not doing sufficient research on legal precedents.

    Were it not for the Privy Council, many Jamaicans would have been hanged, would be serving life sentences or denied recompense for injustice by agents of the state. A classic case was the overturning by the Privy Council of the murder convictions of two poor Jamaican men on the basis that video footage of the scene of a 1996 robbery, in which a policeman was killed, was not made available to the defence at their trial. The men cried in court after they were found guilty, saying that they were innocent. The two accused were Randal Dixon and Mark Sangster. Dixon was found guilty of capital murder and sentenced to death while Sangster was found guilty of non-capital murder and sentenced to life imprisonment.

    The men appealed against their convictions but the appeals were dismissed by the Court of Appeal. They then appealed to the Privy Council which overturned the convictions, suggesting that the investigations should be reopened because the police appeared not to have informed the prosecution of the videotaped evidence so that it was never disclosed to the defence. The police identified Dixon and Sangster as among four men who were involved in the robbery in which a policeman was killed. The videotaped footage from the security camera at the bank where the shooting took place was not produced by the police at the trial or the hearing before the Jamaican Court of Appeal. The Privy Council asked for the tape, viewed it (as the Court of Appeal should have done) and said that neither Dixon nor Sangster appeared on it. The men were eventually freed after many years in prison and the experience affected them mentally.

    There was the case of Michael Bernard, another poor Jamaican. One day in 1990 Bernard patiently waited his turn to use a public telephone. A policeman came up and demanded to use the telephone. He told the policeman to join the queue and wait his turn. An argument followed and then shoving took place. The policeman drew his service revolver, shot Bernard and arrested him. Bernard took the matter to the Supreme Court and was awarded $2.2 million in damages by Justice Zaila McCalla. The attorney general appealed and the Court of Appeal surprisingly ruled that the action of the policeman fell outside the scope of his lawful duties and therefore the state could not be held liable. The court, however, recommended that the law be changed to give justice to victims of such attacks. The Privy Council endorsed the ruling of Justice McCalla.

    There was also the depressing case of Janice Allen, 12-year-old daughter of helper, Millicent Forbes. Janice was shot dead on a street in an inner-city community in Kingston by one of a group of policemen who then refused assistance while she lay dying on the pavement. The policeman, Rohan Allen, was charged with murder after a long delay. After a preliminary inquiry lasting 16 months, trial took place in the Port Antonio Circuit Court. Allen pleaded not guilty and was dismissed of the charge under strange circumstances. Two applications for judicial review were turned down and Forbes, supported by the human rights group, Jamaicans for Justice, had to appeal directly to Her Majesty in the Privy Council on the basis that what took place in the Port Antonio Circuit Court was a fraud and null and void.

    The Privy Council ruled that it is for the Director of Public Prosecutions to decide whether to re-indict the accused and submit that he is not entitled to plea of autrefois acquit (a principle in law which establishes that an accused who shows that he has been tried by a competent court for a criminal offence and is either convicted or acquitted shall not again be tried for that offence, save upon the order of a superior court made in appeal proceedings relating to that conviction or acquittal). The DPP carried out an intensive investigation and decided that there was not sufficient evidence to warrant a retrial. In dismissing the appeal, the Privy Council said that the DPP's decision would in principle be subject to judicial review and I understand that attorneys for Forbes are proceeding on this course. So the legal battle continues.

    There are many more cases like these three in the history of jurisprudence in Jamaica where the Privy Council came out strongly for the poor. That is why so many Jamaicans would prefer to have the Privy Council over the CCJ, but it is about time that Jamaica and other Caribbean countries not using the CCJ have their own court of last resort. As I wrote in this column on August 5, 2003, there is one compelling reason for the CCJ: more Jamaicans will have the chance of appealing because taking one's case to Britain is rather expensive. There is no doubt that we can get judges of a high calibre like Justice McCalla to sit on the panel. However, the issue must be decided in a referendum. The government has already decided to take this course. It is now a matter of when it will be financially possible to hold the referendum. It may be placed on a ballot in the next general elections.
    "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

  • #2
    Long Live the Privy Council and our right to access it...

    Unnuh nuh hear bout di shambles wi Justice system innah..

    Mi personally nuh waan suffah to satisfy unnuh ego issues..

    ..bout 'independent'

    LOL !

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Karl View Post
      Time to leave Privy Council

      KEN CHAPLIN
      Tuesday, October 06, 2009

      Justice Seymour Panton is a well-respected High Court judge. He is president of Jamaica's Court of Appeal. He balances the scales of justice to a remarkable degree and he is articulate. However, he was way out of line in his recent comments that the only people who are interested in retaining the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council are murderers, the very wealthy and people with a colonial mentality.


      KEN CHAPLIN
      Justice Panton was reacting to the statement by Lord Nicholas Phillips, president of Britain's new Supreme Court that Britain's top judges are being diverted from the task of modernising that country's legal system by spending a disproportionate amount of time hearing appeals from independent Commonwealth countries like Jamaica. It should be pointed out that the Privy Council does the work free of cost.

      Justice Panton's statement is misleading and makes no sense at all, to say the least. The poor people of Jamaica seem to have more confidence in the Privy Council than in Jamaica's Court of Appeal because they believe they get justice from the Privy Council, especially in murder cases and legal action against the government. I believe that Jamaican judges since independence have shed most of their pro-establishment stance as demonstrated by judges like Sir Colin McGregor, a former chief justice. Today's high court judges have no such proclivity and whatever errors they make in their judgements are sometimes due to misinterpretation of the law or not doing sufficient research on legal precedents.

      Were it not for the Privy Council, many Jamaicans would have been hanged, would be serving life sentences or denied recompense for injustice by agents of the state. A classic case was the overturning by the Privy Council of the murder convictions of two poor Jamaican men on the basis that video footage of the scene of a 1996 robbery, in which a policeman was killed, was not made available to the defence at their trial. The men cried in court after they were found guilty, saying that they were innocent. The two accused were Randal Dixon and Mark Sangster. Dixon was found guilty of capital murder and sentenced to death while Sangster was found guilty of non-capital murder and sentenced to life imprisonment.

      The men appealed against their convictions but the appeals were dismissed by the Court of Appeal. They then appealed to the Privy Council which overturned the convictions, suggesting that the investigations should be reopened because the police appeared not to have informed the prosecution of the videotaped evidence so that it was never disclosed to the defence. The police identified Dixon and Sangster as among four men who were involved in the robbery in which a policeman was killed. The videotaped footage from the security camera at the bank where the shooting took place was not produced by the police at the trial or the hearing before the Jamaican Court of Appeal. The Privy Council asked for the tape, viewed it (as the Court of Appeal should have done) and said that neither Dixon nor Sangster appeared on it. The men were eventually freed after many years in prison and the experience affected them mentally.

      There was the case of Michael Bernard, another poor Jamaican. One day in 1990 Bernard patiently waited his turn to use a public telephone. A policeman came up and demanded to use the telephone. He told the policeman to join the queue and wait his turn. An argument followed and then shoving took place. The policeman drew his service revolver, shot Bernard and arrested him. Bernard took the matter to the Supreme Court and was awarded $2.2 million in damages by Justice Zaila McCalla. The attorney general appealed and the Court of Appeal surprisingly ruled that the action of the policeman fell outside the scope of his lawful duties and therefore the state could not be held liable. The court, however, recommended that the law be changed to give justice to victims of such attacks. The Privy Council endorsed the ruling of Justice McCalla.

      There was also the depressing case of Janice Allen, 12-year-old daughter of helper, Millicent Forbes. Janice was shot dead on a street in an inner-city community in Kingston by one of a group of policemen who then refused assistance while she lay dying on the pavement. The policeman, Rohan Allen, was charged with murder after a long delay. After a preliminary inquiry lasting 16 months, trial took place in the Port Antonio Circuit Court. Allen pleaded not guilty and was dismissed of the charge under strange circumstances. Two applications for judicial review were turned down and Forbes, supported by the human rights group, Jamaicans for Justice, had to appeal directly to Her Majesty in the Privy Council on the basis that what took place in the Port Antonio Circuit Court was a fraud and null and void.

      The Privy Council ruled that it is for the Director of Public Prosecutions to decide whether to re-indict the accused and submit that he is not entitled to plea of autrefois acquit (a principle in law which establishes that an accused who shows that he has been tried by a competent court for a criminal offence and is either convicted or acquitted shall not again be tried for that offence, save upon the order of a superior court made in appeal proceedings relating to that conviction or acquittal). The DPP carried out an intensive investigation and decided that there was not sufficient evidence to warrant a retrial. In dismissing the appeal, the Privy Council said that the DPP's decision would in principle be subject to judicial review and I understand that attorneys for Forbes are proceeding on this course. So the legal battle continues.

      There are many more cases like these three in the history of jurisprudence in Jamaica where the Privy Council came out strongly for the poor. That is why so many Jamaicans would prefer to have the Privy Council over the CCJ, but it is about time that Jamaica and other Caribbean countries not using the CCJ have their own court of last resort. As I wrote in this column on August 5, 2003, there is one compelling reason for the CCJ: more Jamaicans will have the chance of appealing because taking one's case to Britain is rather expensive. There is no doubt that we can get judges of a high calibre like Justice McCalla to sit on the panel. However, the issue must be decided in a referendum. The government has already decided to take this course. It is now a matter of when it will be financially possible to hold the referendum. It may be placed on a ballot in the next general elections.
      I would rather take my chances with a judge that lives in a state where he or she is protected. Perhaps we could try linking with the US Supreme Court. Sooner or later somebody is going to threaten the CCJ judges.
      The same type of thinking that created a problem cannot be used to solve the problem.

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      • #4
        Re: Leaving the Privy Council

        Although the British Privy Council is clearly tired of post-colonial “baggage” such as the former British colonies in the Caribbean, it is still the most objective and fair court that we have. Also, it is enshrined in the Constitution of Jamaica as Jamaica’s final appellate court, so making this major constitutional amendment will be an arduous process involving a referendum.

        I do not share newspaper columnist Ken Chaplin’s view that a Jamaica court of appeal is a viable option. So, that leaves us with the Caribbean Court of Justice (CCJ).

        Isn’t it more than a little interesting that Trinidad, where the Caribbean Court of Justice is seated, has not yet joined that Caribbean court? The Caribbean Court of Justice was inaugurated in April, 2005 in Port of Spain, Trinidad, after several years of lobbying by the Trinidad government. So far, however, the only former British countries in the Caribbean that have legally adopted the CCJ as their final court of appeal are Barbados and Guyana. The other 13 CARICOM member countries have maintained a deafening silence!

        Will the Caribbean Court of Justice’s judges be free from Caribbean political interference, influence and manipulation? At least we know that the British Privy Council is not likely to be manipulated by any Caribbean politician, and so their rulings will in effect be likely to be more objective than that of any Caribbean court.

        Karl, you posted this column without giving an opinion. What’s your view on the matter?

        Originally posted by Karl View Post
        Were it not for the Privy Council, many Jamaicans would have been hanged, would be serving life sentences or denied recompense for injustice by agents of the state. A classic case was the overturning by the Privy Council of the murder convictions of two poor Jamaican men on the basis that video footage of the scene of a 1996 robbery, in which a policeman was killed, was not made available to the defence at their trial. The men cried in court after they were found guilty, saying that they were innocent. The two accused were Randal Dixon and Mark Sangster. Dixon was found guilty of capital murder and sentenced to death while Sangster was found guilty of non-capital murder and sentenced to life imprisonment.

        The men appealed against their convictions but the appeals were dismissed by the Court of Appeal. They then appealed to the Privy Council which overturned the convictions, suggesting that the investigations should be reopened because the police appeared not to have informed the prosecution of the videotaped evidence so that it was never disclosed to the defence. The police identified Dixon and Sangster as among four men who were involved in the robbery in which a policeman was killed. The videotaped footage from the security camera at the bank where the shooting took place was not produced by the police at the trial or the hearing before the Jamaican Court of Appeal. The Privy Council asked for the tape, viewed it (as the Court of Appeal should have done) and said that neither Dixon nor Sangster appeared on it. The men were eventually freed after many years in prison and the experience affected them mentally.

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        • #5
          Re: US Supreme Court

          Originally posted by Time View Post
          I would rather take my chances with a judge that lives in a state where he or she is protected. Perhaps we could try linking with the US Supreme Court. Sooner or later somebody is going to threaten the CCJ judges.
          Time, I fully agree with your position on the vulnerability of the Caribbean Court of Justice judges to regional and external pressures. However, we can best immediately forget any thoughts of using the US Supreme Court, as that will never be accepted by the USA, not in a million years!! The US Constitution is clear on the purposes of their own high court, plus those nine judges already have their plate filled with cases from the third highest populated nation on the planet.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Maudib View Post
            Long Live the Privy Council and our right to access it...

            Unnuh nuh hear bout di shambles wi Justice system innah..

            Mi personally nuh waan suffah to satisfy unnuh ego issues..

            ..bout 'independent'

            LOL !
            Agree with you 100% maudib , mek dem leave privy councel
            alone .
            Jamaica you mite get a Petroleum well with
            United Oil by 1.31.26;You also has a NNPC option with the Abuja accord from 2022.What
            happens then I don't know.A Petrol Well is
            Probably forthcoming...

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            • #7
              Not a pressing issue for debate. What matters is the work to put the adminstration and administrative support in place to aid the judges efforts to arrive at excellent decisions.

              Either court should be able to render 'good' verdicts and would be liable to 'foul ups' to the same degree . Man is man, is man! You know me, there are no fools the difference lies in how motivated the individual is, or in this case of the two courts, individuals are, to do an excellent job.

              Red Herring - We shall eventually have to turn to a CCJ. The writing has long been on the wall. The politicians need to just get along with doing the job...laying the groundwork to get us an excellent CCJ.
              "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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              • #8
                At this point in time we don't have the will,knowledge nor creative intellectual capacity to leave the Privy Council. Plain truth (we are still mistaking shadows for the real thing)

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                • #9
                  well, intellectually we need to leave but at the moment we cannot maintain our Supreme Court much less to house a final court of appeal and pay the judges a decent salary.

                  Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Gamma View Post
                    well, intellectually we need to leave but at the moment we cannot maintain our Supreme Court much less to house a final court of appeal and pay the judges a decent salary.
                    yuh seet ! hey gamma , its the first mi eva see yuh suh outspoken .
                    yuh touch pon a few topic good tiday .
                    Jamaica you mite get a Petroleum well with
                    United Oil by 1.31.26;You also has a NNPC option with the Abuja accord from 2022.What
                    happens then I don't know.A Petrol Well is
                    Probably forthcoming...

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                    • #11
                      No, Karl, You're Wrong!

                      Originally posted by Karl View Post
                      Not a pressing issue for debate. What matters is the work to put the adminstration and administrative support in place to aid the judges efforts to arrive at excellent decisions.

                      Either court should be able to render 'good' verdicts and would be liable to 'foul ups' to the same degree . Man is man, is man! You know me, there are no fools the difference lies in how motivated the individual is, or in this case of the two courts, individuals are, to do an excellent job.

                      Red Herring - We shall eventually have to turn to a CCJ. The writing has long been on the wall. The politicians need to just get along with doing the job...laying the groundwork to get us an excellent CCJ.
                      Karl, despite what you said above (this is “not a pressing issue for debate”), I can assure that it is indeed an issue for debate right now, and for two reasons: First, the Privy Council, based on a very recent statement by a high ranking member of Britain’s judicial fraternity, is obviously sick and tired of cases emanating from the Caribbean. Secondly, as long as we recognize the Privy Council as our final court (a Jamaica Constitution reality), then the much called for resumption of hanging will not have a legal basis in Jamaica or anywhere else in the English speaking Caribbean outside of Barbados and Guyana.

                      This matter of the Privy Council is actually a pressing issue for debate, and it long has been!

                      Now, I take it for granted that you read the column that you posted, and so you will have seen the very serious shortcomings of the judicial system in Jamaica. Those examples from Jamaica given by columnist Ken Chaplin are not things to joke about, which is why to this day I find it very difficult to support the resumption of hanging!!

                      My question now is this: Will the Caribbean Court of Justice be able to function in an environment that will lead to the type of objective decisions that we’ve become used to from Britain’s Privy Council?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Historian View Post
                        Karl, despite what you said above (this is “not a pressing issue for debate”), I can assure that it is indeed an issue for debate right now, and for two reasons: First, the Privy Council, based on a very recent statement by a high ranking member of Britain’s judicial fraternity, is obviously sick and tired of cases emanating from the Caribbean. Secondly, as long as we recognize the Privy Council as our final court (a Jamaica Constitution reality), then the much called for resumption of hanging will not have a legal basis in Jamaica or anywhere else in the English speaking Caribbean outside of Barbados and Guyana.

                        This matter of the Privy Council is actually a pressing issue for debate, and it long has been!

                        Now, I take it for granted that you read the column that you posted, and so you will have seen the very serious shortcomings of the judicial system in Jamaica. Those examples from Jamaica given by columnist Ken Chaplin are not things to joke about, which is why to this day I find it very difficult to support the resumption of hanging!!

                        My question now is this: Will the Caribbean Court of Justice be able to function in an environment that will lead to the type of objective decisions that we’ve become used to from Britain’s Privy Council?
                        Historian: I am saying the time for action on creating the CCJ is long past. OK! So we ll recognise that, we are, where we are...so it must be about getting on with the job of creating the CCJ.

                        ...and to answer your question; Will the Caribbean Court of Justice be able to function in an environment that will lead to the type of objective decisions that we’ve become used to from Britain’s Privy Council?

                        Nothing to stand against that.
                        ...so, Yes!
                        "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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                        • #13
                          had this discussion at dinner last night with 3 lawyers, one who has acted as a justice of the ct of appeal of the ECSC, another was an acting judge and the third is a former magistrate and i was the lone voice in the wind.

                          we NEED to have our own final court of appeal, but we are not there yet.

                          Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                          • #14
                            Where do you live ?

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                            • #15
                              Last argument was we NEED to be independent...

                              How tings in the BVI ?

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