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    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- It took a former president with global celebrity status to free two U.S. journalists from a North Korea prison.

    Former President Bill Clinton and former Vice President Al Gore greets freed U.S. journalist Laura Ling.


    Laura Ling and Euna Lee arrived back in the United States Wednesday morning with former President Bill Clinton, who flew to North Korea to negotiate their release after they were sentenced to a labor camp.
    Iain Clayton said Wednesday said that his wife Laura told him through a telephone conversation that the North Koreans were willing to grant the two journalists amnesty if a high-level envoy, such as former President Clinton, were willing to travel to Pyongyang.

    But there was no shortage of envoys ready to travel to North Korea and negotiate the women's release.

    Some heavyweights were turned down by the North Koreans: former Vice President Al Gore, a co-founder of the media outfit the women were working for when they were arrested, and New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, a former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations whose previous missions to North Korea included negotiating the release of a detained American.

    Lower-level envoys such as former U.S. ambassador to South Korea and current Korea Society Chairman Donald Gregg, Sig Harrison, an expert on North Korean nukes who has traveled there several times, and Han Park, a scholar at the University of Georgia, all offered their services.

    Sen. John Kerry, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was also closely involved in coordinating efforts with the White House and State Department to free the women.

    According to sources intimately involved with the efforts, Sen. John Kerry -- chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee -- received an official invitation to visit Pyongyang to facilitate their release and open a larger dialogue on the nuclear issue after several weeks of quiet direct diplomacy between Kerry and his aides and North Korea.
    In the end, it was Clinton who North Korea wanted.

    Two senior Obama administration officials described on background how Clinton's mission to Pyongyang to secure the release of two U.S. journalists imprisoned by North Korea evolved.
    Officials said that while President Obama never spoke directly with the former president about this issue, negotiations were under way within the administration.


    During the weekend of July 24-25, Clinton spoke with National Security Adviser Gen. Jim Jones about his willingness to take on this mission. Clinton ultimately agreed to go on the mission but made it very clear in every communication that this was purely a humanitarian effort.
    Clinton also wanted to make sure, based on the due diligence of the national security team, that there was a high likelihood of success if he went.

    "We were convinced this would be the result, and based on that we could advise President Clinton that his trip was going to be successful," one official said.

    State Department spokesman Ian Kelly said Wednesday that "we did our homework ... to make sure that if President Clinton did take this trip, that we would be able to ... win the freedom for these two."

    Kelly said that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton also had a role in the mission, adding that "The State Department was very involved." More details, he said, will be released.

    Administration officials also said it was always made clear by Clinton and the national security team that this would be a humanitarian mission.
    "We had one goal in mind, which was in the U.S. interest, which was to seek the release of these two U.S. Americans," one of the officials said. "And it wasn't in any way about our disagreements with the DPRK with respect to its conduct, or with respect to our intention to vigorously enforce resolutions and to vigorously seek the denuclearization of the Korean peninsula."

    Clinton and his team engaged in a 75-minute meeting with President Kim Jong Il, and then had a dinner which lasted a little over two hours.
    "So the total amount of time that they were in meetings or agendas with each other was about a little over three hours and 15 minutes," one official said.

    Asked if the nuclear issue at least was discussed, the official said, "I don't have an answer to that question. I'm sure president Clinton gave President Kim his views on denuclearization and his views are well known with respect to denuclearization."

    While Gore was turned down by North Korea, he was, however, actively involved in this effort from the start, speaking often with the families and the Obama administration.

    On Wednesday, Obama thanked the former vice president, saying he "worked tirelessly in order to achieve a positive outcome."
    Clinton's humanitarian help was not lost on Obama -- who reached out to the journalists' families on Tuesday night.

    "I want to thank President Bill Clinton, I had a chance to talk to him, for the extraordinary humanitarian effort that resulted in the release of the two journalists," he said at the White House. "My hope is is that the families that have been reunited can enjoy the next several days and weeks understanding that because of the efforts of President Clinton and Gore they are able to be with each other once again."
    Life is a system of half-truths and lies, opportunistic, convenient evasion.”
    - Langston Hughes

  • #2
    Those two women are now indebted to BillClinton big time. If I laff I dead to rahtid.
    "Jah Jah see dem a come, but I & I a Conqueror!"

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    • #3
      Hmm m wonder what Bill will ask for in return for their life,......
      Solidarity is not a matter of well wishing, but is sharing the very same fate whether in victory or in death.
      Che Guevara.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Sickko View Post
        Hmm m wonder what Bill will ask for in return for their life,......

        LoL - anything him ask for is small in comparison to having life spared Just imagine, in a North Korea prison, they wouldn't ask for it, them was just gonna tek it, anyhow, anywhere, anytime
        Life is a system of half-truths and lies, opportunistic, convenient evasion.”
        - Langston Hughes

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        • #5
          Upon arriving in the USA, the two journalists said they were repeatedly subjected to sexual innuendo, groping, and repeated strip searches.

          That and whatever the North Koreans did.

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          • #6
            another feather in obama's hat..if you ask me!

            Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MdmeX View Post
              WASHINGTON (CNN) -- It took a former president with global celebrity status to free two U.S. journalists from a North Korea prison.

              Former President Bill Clinton and former Vice President Al Gore greets freed U.S. journalist Laura Ling.


              Laura Ling and Euna Lee arrived back in the United States Wednesday morning with former President Bill Clinton, who flew to North Korea to negotiate their release after they were sentenced to a labor camp.
              Iain Clayton said Wednesday said that his wife Laura told him through a telephone conversation that the North Koreans were willing to grant the two journalists amnesty if a high-level envoy, such as former President Clinton, were willing to travel to Pyongyang.

              But there was no shortage of envoys ready to travel to North Korea and negotiate the women's release.

              Some heavyweights were turned down by the North Koreans: former Vice President Al Gore, a co-founder of the media outfit the women were working for when they were arrested, and New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson, a former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations whose previous missions to North Korea included negotiating the release of a detained American.

              Lower-level envoys such as former U.S. ambassador to South Korea and current Korea Society Chairman Donald Gregg, Sig Harrison, an expert on North Korean nukes who has traveled there several times, and Han Park, a scholar at the University of Georgia, all offered their services.

              Sen. John Kerry, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, was also closely involved in coordinating efforts with the White House and State Department to free the women.

              According to sources intimately involved with the efforts, Sen. John Kerry -- chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee -- received an official invitation to visit Pyongyang to facilitate their release and open a larger dialogue on the nuclear issue after several weeks of quiet direct diplomacy between Kerry and his aides and North Korea.
              In the end, it was Clinton who North Korea wanted.

              Two senior Obama administration officials described on background how Clinton's mission to Pyongyang to secure the release of two U.S. journalists imprisoned by North Korea evolved.
              Officials said that while President Obama never spoke directly with the former president about this issue, negotiations were under way within the administration.


              During the weekend of July 24-25, Clinton spoke with National Security Adviser Gen. Jim Jones about his willingness to take on this mission. Clinton ultimately agreed to go on the mission but made it very clear in every communication that this was purely a humanitarian effort.
              Clinton also wanted to make sure, based on the due diligence of the national security team, that there was a high likelihood of success if he went.

              "We were convinced this would be the result, and based on that we could advise President Clinton that his trip was going to be successful," one official said.

              State Department spokesman Ian Kelly said Wednesday that "we did our homework ... to make sure that if President Clinton did take this trip, that we would be able to ... win the freedom for these two."

              Kelly said that Secretary of State Hillary Clinton also had a role in the mission, adding that "The State Department was very involved." More details, he said, will be released.

              Administration officials also said it was always made clear by Clinton and the national security team that this would be a humanitarian mission.
              "We had one goal in mind, which was in the U.S. interest, which was to seek the release of these two U.S. Americans," one of the officials said. "And it wasn't in any way about our disagreements with the DPRK with respect to its conduct, or with respect to our intention to vigorously enforce resolutions and to vigorously seek the denuclearization of the Korean peninsula."

              Clinton and his team engaged in a 75-minute meeting with President Kim Jong Il, and then had a dinner which lasted a little over two hours.
              "So the total amount of time that they were in meetings or agendas with each other was about a little over three hours and 15 minutes," one official said.

              Asked if the nuclear issue at least was discussed, the official said, "I don't have an answer to that question. I'm sure president Clinton gave President Kim his views on denuclearization and his views are well known with respect to denuclearization."

              While Gore was turned down by North Korea, he was, however, actively involved in this effort from the start, speaking often with the families and the Obama administration.

              On Wednesday, Obama thanked the former vice president, saying he "worked tirelessly in order to achieve a positive outcome."
              Clinton's humanitarian help was not lost on Obama -- who reached out to the journalists' families on Tuesday night.

              "I want to thank President Bill Clinton, I had a chance to talk to him, for the extraordinary humanitarian effort that resulted in the release of the two journalists," he said at the White House. "My hope is is that the families that have been reunited can enjoy the next several days and weeks understanding that because of the efforts of President Clinton and Gore they are able to be with each other once again."
              Perhaps, the deal was done before Clinton got there. It is rumoured that Clinton went on the strict condition that the ladies would be released.
              The same type of thinking that created a problem cannot be used to solve the problem.

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              • #8
                of course!!! no doubt about that in my mind.

                Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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