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    Davies questions state's huge spend on tertiary education
    Saturday, April 06, 2002


    DAVIES... should we be allocating for tertiary institutions to train persons to migrate

    FINANCE and Planning Minister Dr Omar Davies has questioned whether the Government should continue spending huge sums on tertiary education, in light of the increased incidence of migration by more educated persons, as a result of globalisation.

    "Should we be allocating for tertiary institutions to train persons to migrate or should I choose to reallocate and deal with the basics and skills training?" Davies asked Wednesday in an address to the opening of a three-day seminar at the University of the West Indies.

    "Is it that we are going to take one-sixth of the dollar allocated to education to train persons who have no allegiance or no feeling of an obligation to help in nation building, or should we, therefore, reallocate to deal with more fundamental issues?"

    Davies said that during the last fiscal year, allocation to the UWI alone accounted for 3.4 per cent of total tax revenue and 17 per cent of total allocation to the education sector.

    "This means that $1 in ever $6 spent on education comes to the UWI. This compares with 33 per cent of the education dollar to primary education and 29 per cent to secondary education. For every $2 spent on primary education, $1 was spent at the UWI," he stated, adding that for ever dollar of cost of the UWI, students were paying on average less than 20 cents of that dollar.

    "How much of this expenditure can be justified on tertiary education in general, and the UWI in particular, as compared with spending a larger percentage in ensuring universal literacy and improved primary education?" the minister asked.

    He noted that one aspect of social policy in the changing global environment was considering "what steps should be taken to re-ignite a sense of belonging in those in whom so much has been invested".

    Said Davies: "Is it that it is no longer relevant to speak of a commitment to country or region? Is it that we are producing graduates who are citizens of the world? Is it that we are preparing trained personnel who are indifferent to working in Memphis or Mandeville, Cleveland or Clarendon? If this is so, how does one make the right decision in terms of social policy to allocate resources to train persons for migration as opposed to the development of the nation state?"

    He noted that Government's investment in the university could be repaid by the institution helping the country to "design the creative strategies to build on our strengths to minimise our weaknesses in order to exploit opportunities for increased production and employment resulting from globalisation".

    The seminar, titled 'Enabling Human and Economic Development', is being staged by the Sir Arthur Lewis Institute of Social and Economic Studies and ends today.

    The opening ceremony at which Davies spoke also heard from Herbert Lewis, president of the Jamaica Employers' Federation, who spoke about the challenges of harmonising human resource development and economic development to complete in an ever-changing market place.

    He noted that as nations sought to improve the conditions of their people through economic growth and human resource development, co-operation was needed among governments, employers, trade unions and international organisations.

    "Governments cannot do everything in developing human resources for economic and social growth," Lewis argued. "The formal education system and government manpower policies may establish the environment, but it is the employee institutions which take the graduates and the unemployed and develop them on the job."

    Another speaker, Lloyd Goodleigh, general secretary of the Jamaica Confederation of Trade Unions, discussed the importance of social protection in the viability of regional markets.

    Said Goodleigh: "Social protection is crucial to the viability of the single market because it represents part and parcel of the regional strategy to cope with the negative consequences of globalisation... 50 per cent of the ratified conventions in the International Labour Organisation are about social protection."

    Professor Andrew Downes, director of SALISES, said that the conference brought together researchers on the various campuses to discuss research work currently being done.

    An annual event, the first conference was held in Barbados in 2000 under the theme 'Alternative Development in the Eastern Caribbean -- The Role of the Services Sector', while the second conference, held in Trinidad in March 2001, was titled 'Governance in a Changing Environment'.

    Several papers from the seminar have been published in the Journal of Eastern Caribbean Studies and Caribbean Dialogue.

    SALISES was formed in 1999 as a research and graduate teaching entity focused on economic development policy, social policy and governance. This academic year, the first batch of graduate students was admitted to the programme.

  • #2
    If we had the capacity to employ them, they probably would not be taking flight, right HL?

    And as for the economy - it's so difficult to make a good living, what does Omar expect them to do if able!? And he could have made a difference in that regard.


    BLACK LIVES MATTER

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    • #3
      But that aside though, does he have a point?

      Given the state of our economic development should we put less in teritary education and more in "trade school" education? Or is that short-sighted thinking?
      "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Islandman View Post
        But that aside though, does he have a point?

        Given the state of our economic development should we put less in teritary education and more in "trade school" education? Or is that short-sighted thinking?
        Not short-sighted thinking at all. But if they are equipped with a skill from a trade school and can't find work or have the resource to create their own employment - then migration will still be a factor.
        Life is a system of half-truths and lies, opportunistic, convenient evasion.”
        - Langston Hughes

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        • #5
          Bwoy, mi nuh sure. Emphasizing trade school education seems to be an admission of failure to me. Not to say that there is something bad abuot trade schools, but I feel if more people were graduation from college, we wouldn't have so many trade schools, and HEART and JAMAL would be unnecessary.


          BLACK LIVES MATTER

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          • #6
            ... JAMAL in particular - serious pondering
            Life is a system of half-truths and lies, opportunistic, convenient evasion.”
            - Langston Hughes

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            • #7
              More Food For Thought

              Taken from the news report below:
              Last year, a World Bank study by Richard Adams noted that migration takes a large share of the best educated in Jamaica. The study suggest that Jamaica is suffering from a particularly high degree of brain drain with the highest migration rate (95.8 per cent) for tertiary-educated people to the OECD and the US of the 13 countries studied for the year 2000.

              Link for complete news report (I've simply posted a shortened version):
              http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/colum..._EDUCATION.asp

              Trading tertiary educationRosalea Hamilton
              Sunday, February 15, 2004
              World Bank study shows that migration takes a large share of the best educated in Jamaica. In this 1992 file photo, hundreds of Jamaicans line-up outside the US Embassy in Kingston hoping to get visas.


              IN today's knowledge-based global economy, education is it! Investment in education is not only a critical ingredient in developing a country's human/intellectual capital asset, but it is also necessary to effectively engage in the rapidly growing global trade in educational services.

              In 1999, OECD countries earned an estimated US$30 billion in the trade of tertiary education services from about 85 per cent of the world's foreign students. A recent study on the 'Private and Social Returns to Investment in Tertiary Education in Jamaica', undertaken by Dr Vanus James, Colin Williams and myself, conservatively estimates that Jamaica currently exports about US$12 million of education capital annually from approximately 1,700 foreign students.

              Since education is considered a key ingredient for economic growth and development, migration of individuals with tertiary level education, the so-called "brain drain", is a source of concern. Our study conservatively estimated the capital flight due to the brain drain at around US$20 million annually. If these were privately funded education charged at market prices, this capital flight would also represent a legitimate estimate of export of education capital. However, since government funds the majority of tertiary education, this capital flight represents a genuine leakage of resources and loss of associated externalities.

              Last year, a World Bank study by Richard Adams noted that migration takes a large share of the best educated in Jamaica. The study suggest that Jamaica is suffering from a particularly high degree of brain drain with the highest migration rate (95.8 per cent) for tertiary-educated people to the OECD and the US of the 13 countries studied for the year 2000.

              What seems evident from our study is that Jamaica is not fully absorbing the supply of human capital generated by the education system. Most of the unemployed have secondary education or better, and among these, around six per cent now have tertiary education.

              Our study concludes that since the social benefits to investment in exporting tertiary education are high and can offset the losses from the brain drain, there is a compelling social interest in developing specific programmes for expanding investment in this export.

              The impact of the brain drain can be minimised by a specific programme to collect the cost of education from emigrants if, for example, government's contribution to the full cost per student can be treated as an interest-subsidised loan credited to the student. Such a programme may allow graduates who remain in Jamaica not to repay the interest-subsidised loan while graduates who emigrate would owe a debt of all or some of the loan at the going student loan rate.

              It is our hope that these and other policy recommendations in the study can enrich the current national debate about the future of education in Jamaica.

              Prepared by Dr Rosalea Hamilton
              Trade Policy Consultant
              CEO, Institute of Law & Economics, www.ilejamaica.org
              E-mail: rosaleahamilton@hotmail.com

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              • #8
                hey...once noble choron formrly sagest of all centaurs...does portia endorse this or is omar being a renegade?

                Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                • #9
                  omar's point deserves consideration... this immigration brain drain is not new and should have been addressed with solutions by now...

                  michael manley had long since recognized this challenge and had taken some steps, albeit small to address it with a program that called for students to commit to service after graduation from cast and uwi... that was only a beginning and should have continued with enhancements to incent our graduates to develop the country...

                  just an opinion here... it is and will continue to be a challenge for jamaica or any small economy to compete with the developed nations requirement for talented human resources... one way to combat that is to develop nationalistic pride among the citizens augmented with opportunities for increasing their standard of living... short of that, the problem will continue to grow...
                  'to get what we've never had, we MUST do what we've never done'

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                  • #10
                    Old Speech

                    Originally posted by Gamma View Post
                    hey...once noble choron formrly sagest of all centaurs...does portia endorse this or is omar being a renegade?
                    This one is an old, seven-year-old newspaper report (April 2002), Gamma boss .

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                    • #11
                      Good question.

                      If him want them stay give them a YEP program too or create something like the hope program that they work with the government in community development for 3-5 years after them leave school if them get financial aid.

                      As Mo said if them had jobs many wouldn't leave.
                      • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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                      • #12
                        omar has a point but i don't think he has given it enough thought... i think he should have studied the effect of his argument because it raises more questions...

                        is he suggesting that jamaicans should not strive for the highest level of education... should the govt not aid in creating an enviroment where its citizens can be educated beyond the secondary level, especially in a knowledge based global environment...
                        'to get what we've never had, we MUST do what we've never done'

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                        • #13
                          when omar expressed this, a lot of people i know were upset with him... a friend of mine at the wto thought omar had lost his mind... lol...

                          omar had a point about the brain drain but a person in his position should not make that suggestion because it appeared that the then govt had given up... instead of providing a solution to develop the nations economy he took the easy way out...
                          'to get what we've never had, we MUST do what we've never done'

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                          • #14
                            I think he was more saying that we should find ways to make more of the cost fall on the individual in the case of post-secondary education. It is important but there are other levels of education that are more important.

                            Instead of covering so much of the cost, the govt could provide greater access to low/no interest student loans so the barrier to entry is still low enough. Even with that there are problems though, even now nuff people tek the loans and migrate and never pay it back.

                            Tough, tough issues. Anybody who think nation building is a simple thing is dreaming.
                            "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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                            • #15
                              Well....

                              Originally posted by Baddaz View Post
                              just an opinion here... it is and will continue to be a challenge for jamaica or any small economy to compete with the developed nations requirement for talented human resources... one way to combat that is to develop nationalistic pride among the citizens augmented with opportunities for increasing their standard of living... short of that, the problem will continue to grow...
                              I fully agree with you that it will continue to be a challenge for us (and other poor, developing countries). However, in this era when we've reached the stage where we are seemingly about to turn once again to that lending institution of last resort, the IMF, the "opportunities for increased standard of living" are slipping further and further away.

                              I honestly have no idea if we will be able to find a solution short of discovering large deposits of oil in jamaican waters. And even then it takes around ten years before we'd start to see any benefits from any oil discovered.

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