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    LETTER OF THE DAY - Holness is quite right
    Published: Friday | June 12, 2009




    Pat Lazarus

    The Editor, Sir:

    Please publish the attached, as an open letter to Minister of Education Andrew Holness.


    Dear Minister Holness,

    Thank you, thank you, thank you! Finally, a minister who sees the whole picture and is not afraid to place the responsibility for our functionally illiterate majority where it belongs to a large degree.

    You are absolutely right in pointing to the quality of leadership of principals and the standard of teachers, mainly across our primary and all-age schools.

    Children spend 25-30 hours per week in school, or roughly 900-1,080 hours per year, from age six. If they are sent to basic or pre-schools, then almost the same number of hours is added for ages three to six.

    While there is no doubt that principals and teachers have been fighting an uphill battle for decades with conditions of the physical plants, overcrowding and social problems that arrive with our children, it is still very difficult to swallow that the majority of our children have been leaving schools functionally illiterate, after moving from grade 1 through to grade 7 or 9. I applaud you for pointing out that the standards of entrants to our teachers' colleges are appallingly low.

    I have been teaching since the 1950s, interspersed with my bouts on television and radio. So, I've observed changes.

    I remember very well when Prime Minister Michael Manley pulled the 'free education' rabbit out of the hat in an overnight bid to counter a very strong Budget presentation by Opposition Leader Edward Seaga. Great, idealistic concept. But has it ever been free education? Is it now? Not really.

    Anyway, in the middle of a very polarised and antagonistic political climate, our educational institutions and standards began to unravel fast. A shift system was introduced, and a new nightmare began. To provide enough teachers for a newly burgeoning school population, Manley lowered the requirements for entry to teachers' colleges. Education fell further into the abyss.

    So, I throw my support, for what it's worth, behind your pronouncements, recognising that fixing the staffing of schools is a task worthy of a conqueror. In all this, however, I am very aware of the relatively few excellent principals and teachers who are performing herculean tasks under very difficult conditions.

    Teachers who love

    I'm also aware of the teachers who may not be at the highest standard desirable, but who truly love children and take them under their wings.

    Often, this is as therapeutic and effective for a child as academic achievement.

    I also applaud, clap and cheer to hear the condemnation of the absurdity of elaborate graduation ceremonies among our primary and middle-school systems. I have railed against this for years in any forum that provided me the opportunity to shout about this 'culture'.

    Abomination of priorities




    I have seen so many basic, primary and all-age schools where most of the children graduating have not had the books they required throughout their school life, yet parents smash every piggy bank, borrow and use the money to pay their bills, in order to get 'pitchers' of their children in gowns, mortar boards, new shoes, big gifts with plenty ribbon to give 'teacha' and friends. Each one vying to outdo his or her neighbour.

    Please do not be swayed by the 'school officials' who want to use 'moral suasion' to reduce this abomination of priorities. In our country, 'moral suasion' does not work. Regulation and enforcement do.

    I often use the example of the seat belt law to demonstrate this point.

    When Prime Minister Patterson and Cabinet decided that seat belts were to be used in every vehicle, there was the usual outcry. "Mi naw tie miself into no cyar. Dem cyan get mi fi do dat."

    I heard and read those sentiments every day leading up to the appointed day. But the prime minister ran a thorough and effective campaign, not of persuasion, but of information and warning. Come the appointed day and every jack man was belted, and has remained so until this day.

    That is what works. That is what reconditions people's views and finally educates them about the efficacy of the measure.

    I am, etc.,

    PAT LAZARUS

    President - Rock Hall Citizens

    Benevolent Society

    Adjunct Staff - CARIMAC,

    UWI.
    "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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    I have seen so many basic, primary and all-age schools where most of the children graduating have not had the books they required throughout their school life, yet parents smash every piggy bank, borrow and use the money to pay their bills, in order to get 'pitchers' of their children in gowns, mortar boards, new shoes, big gifts with plenty ribbon to give 'teacha' and friends. Each one vying to outdo his or her neighbour.
    You got that right!!

    I recall a few years ago in Western Jamaica, where some school graduations were postponed due to storm warnings, and how upset the parents/guardians were - all because of the "blinge" "blinge".

    Per Dave Ramsey "buying things you can least afford to impress people you don't like"
    Life is a system of half-truths and lies, opportunistic, convenient evasion.”
    - Langston Hughes

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    • #3
      clap clap clap!

      Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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      • #4
        Mi nuh so sure a di free education part but other than than great article.

        Let us not blame "free education" and "free healthcare" for our problem.
        With the cost structure the problem was even worst so let us embrass them and move along.
        • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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        • #5
          Pat Lazarus, huh?

          Anyway, I do support the Education Minister, my former drinking colleague at some of the Kingston's finest establisments!

          One only has to look at tv news to see the quality of our teachers. I cringe listening to them. Sickko, dem mek DV sound like an academic!


          BLACK LIVES MATTER

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Lazie View Post
            LETTER OF THE DAY - Holness is quite right
            Published: Friday | June 12, 2009




            Pat Lazarus

            The Editor, Sir:

            Please publish the attached, as an open letter to Minister of Education Andrew Holness.


            Dear Minister Holness,

            Thank you, thank you, thank you! Finally, a minister who sees the whole picture and is not afraid to place the responsibility for our functionally illiterate majority where it belongs to a large degree.

            You are absolutely right in pointing to the quality of leadership of principals and the standard of teachers, mainly across our primary and all-age schools.

            Children spend 25-30 hours per week in school, or roughly 900-1,080 hours per year, from age six. If they are sent to basic or pre-schools, then almost the same number of hours is added for ages three to six.

            While there is no doubt that principals and teachers have been fighting an uphill battle for decades with conditions of the physical plants, overcrowding and social problems that arrive with our children, it is still very difficult to swallow that the majority of our children have been leaving schools functionally illiterate, after moving from grade 1 through to grade 7 or 9. I applaud you for pointing out that the standards of entrants to our teachers' colleges are appallingly low.

            I have been teaching since the 1950s, interspersed with my bouts on television and radio. So, I've observed changes.

            I remember very well when Prime Minister Michael Manley pulled the 'free education' rabbit out of the hat in an overnight bid to counter a very strong Budget presentation by Opposition Leader Edward Seaga. Great, idealistic concept. But has it ever been free education? Is it now? Not really.

            Anyway, in the middle of a very polarised and antagonistic political climate, our educational institutions and standards began to unravel fast. A shift system was introduced, and a new nightmare began. To provide enough teachers for a newly burgeoning school population, Manley lowered the requirements for entry to teachers' colleges. Education fell further into the abyss.

            So, I throw my support, for what it's worth, behind your pronouncements, recognising that fixing the staffing of schools is a task worthy of a conqueror. In all this, however, I am very aware of the relatively few excellent principals and teachers who are performing herculean tasks under very difficult conditions.

            Teachers who love

            I'm also aware of the teachers who may not be at the highest standard desirable, but who truly love children and take them under their wings.

            Often, this is as therapeutic and effective for a child as academic achievement.

            I also applaud, clap and cheer to hear the condemnation of the absurdity of elaborate graduation ceremonies among our primary and middle-school systems. I have railed against this for years in any forum that provided me the opportunity to shout about this 'culture'.

            Abomination of priorities




            I have seen so many basic, primary and all-age schools where most of the children graduating have not had the books they required throughout their school life, yet parents smash every piggy bank, borrow and use the money to pay their bills, in order to get 'pitchers' of their children in gowns, mortar boards, new shoes, big gifts with plenty ribbon to give 'teacha' and friends. Each one vying to outdo his or her neighbour.

            Please do not be swayed by the 'school officials' who want to use 'moral suasion' to reduce this abomination of priorities. In our country, 'moral suasion' does not work. Regulation and enforcement do.

            I often use the example of the seat belt law to demonstrate this point.

            When Prime Minister Patterson and Cabinet decided that seat belts were to be used in every vehicle, there was the usual outcry. "Mi naw tie miself into no cyar. Dem cyan get mi fi do dat."

            I heard and read those sentiments every day leading up to the appointed day. But the prime minister ran a thorough and effective campaign, not of persuasion, but of information and warning. Come the appointed day and every jack man was belted, and has remained so until this day.

            That is what works. That is what reconditions people's views and finally educates them about the efficacy of the measure.

            I am, etc.,

            PAT LAZARUS

            President - Rock Hall Citizens

            Benevolent Society

            Adjunct Staff - CARIMAC,

            UWI.
            One more ass!
            "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Karl View Post
              One more ass!
              When a mna is left calling everyone else an ass ... you do realise what the problem is right?
              "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Lazie View Post
                When a mna is left calling everyone else an ass ... you do realise what the problem is right?
                Suh yuh an Pat Lazarus and di nex two a unnuh tink unnuh a ebrybody?
                Unnuh need help...bad! (sorri fi unnuh emoticon!)
                "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                  Pat Lazarus, huh?

                  Anyway, I do support the Education Minister, my former drinking colleague at some of the Kingston's finest establisments!

                  One only has to look at tv news to see the quality of our teachers. I cringe listening to them. Sickko, dem mek DV sound like an academic!
                  Are they worse that those who were teaching in the "good old days"? ...or is it the access to mass media and the larger numbers around that makes it seem that the standards have fallen?

                  Look no one in his or her right mind supports the current poor standards...I do not think those in the "good old days" supported the standards then...but this constant berating of teachers cannot help...and it may well drive more persons away from teaching.

                  The Minister is an ass to be going down that path rather than putting his energies to making improvement in each and every area that needs it. He should by example be encouraging his teachers to also put their energies into improvements in the teaching/learning environment.

                  The siruation is as it is...IMPROVEMENT NEEDED! All hands on deck! At the moment the Minister is pushing the teachers overboard. He is wrong to think that helps/will get him improvement!
                  "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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                  • #10
                    YES! I believe they are worst today than in the good old days. I don't see any berating going on. Some of us just can't take any sort of criticism without squealing about being abused and berated.


                    BLACK LIVES MATTER

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                    • #11
                      Standard of teaching has fallen dramatically. Every school is struggling with each other for the few good ones.

                      Schools tried bringing back some of the retired teachers, but that could not even come close to filling the gap.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                        YES! I believe they are worst today than in the good old days. I don't see any berating going on. Some of us just can't take any sort of criticism without squealing about being abused and berated.
                        I believe?!

                        Facts and figures, pleeeeeeeeease?
                        "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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                        • #13
                          For the entire Massive!

                          Originally posted by Me View Post
                          Standard of teaching has fallen dramatically. Every school is struggling with each other for the few good ones.

                          Schools tried bringing back some of the retired teachers, but that could not even come close to filling the gap.
                          All schools: Facts and figures, pleeeeeeeeeeeease?

                          In the good old days... What was the %age numbers untrained teachers in schools? ...what is the %age trained to untrained ratio in schools?

                          ...and the figures now?

                          btw - Could we also have comparisons across subject lines for the secondary high schools?

                          Let's have a real discussion?
                          Thank you!
                          "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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                          • #14
                            Wait .. all of a sudden KArl a ask fi facts and figures? Wasn't it you same one who saw facts and figures then claimed the figures may well be true but ....
                            "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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                            • #15
                              What does it matter if they are or are not!?! Have you seen the CSEC results, or the GSAT results? How does it help anyone if it is proven which era was better?!?


                              BLACK LIVES MATTER

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