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    http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/2009031...08599188495600


    Can Marijuana Help Rescue California's Economy
    By ALISON STATEMAN / LOS ANGELES Alison Stateman / Los Angeles – 1 hr 45 mins ago
    AP – A state police officer stands amid marijuana plants found in a greenhouse at a ranch in Tecate, Mexico, …



    Could marijuana be the answer to the economic misery facing California? Democratic State Assembly member Tom Ammiano thinks so. Ammiano introduced legislation last month that would legalize pot and allow the state to regulate and tax its sale - a move that could mean billions for the cash-strapped state. Pot is, after all, California's biggest cash crop, responsible for $14 billion in annual sales, dwarfing the state's second largest agricultural commodity - milk and cream - which brings in $7.3 billion annually, according to the most recent USDA statistics. The state's tax collectors estimate the bill would bring in about $1.3 billion in much-needed revenue a year, offsetting some of the billions in service cuts and spending reductions outlined in the recently approved state budget.
    "The state of California is in a very, very precipitous economic plight. It's in the toilet," says Ammiano. "It looks very, very bleak, with layoffs and foreclosures and schools closing or trying to operate four days a week. We have one of the highest rates of unemployment we've ever had. With any revenue ideas people say you have to think outside of the box, you have to be creative, and I feel that the issue of the decriminalization, regulation and taxation of marijuana fits that bill. It's not new, the idea has been around, and the political will may in fact be there to make something happen." (See pictures from stoner cinema.)
    Ammiano may be right. A few days after he introduced the bill, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder announced that states should be able to make their own rules on medical marijuana and that federal raids on pot dispensaries in California would cease. The move signaled a softening of the hard-line approach previous administrations have had to medicinal pot use. The nomination of Gil Kerlikowske as the head of the Office of National Drug Control Policy may also signal a softer federal line on marijuana. If he is confirmed as the so-called Drug Czar, Kerlikowske will bring with him experience as police chief of Seattle, where he made it clear that going after people for posessing marijuana was not a priority of his force.
    California was one of the first states in the nation to legalize medical marijuana in 1996. Currently, $200 million in medical marijuana sales are subject to sales tax. If passed, the Marijuana Control, Regulation and Education Act (AB 390) would give California control of pot in a manner similar to alcohol, while prohibiting its purchase to citizens under age 21. (The bill has been referred to the California State Assembly's Public Safety and Health Committees; Ammiano says it could take up to a year before it comes to a vote for passage.) State revenues would be derived from a $50 per ounce levy on retail sales of marijuana and sales taxes. By adopting the law, California could become a model for other states. As Ammiano put it: "How California goes, the country goes."
    Despite the projected and much-needed revenue, opponents say legalizing pot will only add to social woes. "The last thing we need is yet another mind-altering substance to be legalized," says John Lovell, lobbyist for the California Peace Officers' Association. "We have enough problems with alcohol and abuse of pharmaceutical products: do we really need to add yet another mind-altering substance to the array?" Lovell says the easy availability of the drug will lead to a surge in its use, much like what happened when alcohol was allowed to be sold in venues other than liquor stores in some states.
    Joel W. Hay, professor of Pharmaceutical Economics at USC, also foresees harm if the bill passes. "Marijuana is a drug that clouds people's judgment. It affects their ability to concentrate and react and it certainly has impacts on third parties," says Hay, who has written on the societal costs of drug abuse. "It's one more drug that will add to the toll on society. All we have to do is look at the two legalized drugs, tobacco and alcohol, and look at the carnage that they've caused. [Marijuana] is a dangerous drug and it causes bad outcomes for both the people who use it and for the people who are in their way at work or other activities." He adds: "There are probably some responsible people who can handle marijuana but there are lots of people who can't, and it has an enormous negative impact on them, their family and loved ones."
    In response, retired Orange County Superior Court Judge James Gray, a longtime proponent of legalization, estimates that legalizing pot and thus ceasing to arrest, prosecute and imprison non-violent offenders could save the state an additional $1 billion a year. "We couldn't make this drug any more available if we tried," he says. "Not only do we have those problems, along with glamorizing it by making it illegal, but we also have the crime and corruption that go along with it." He adds, "Unfortunately, every society in the history of mankind has had some form of mind-altering, sometimes addictive substances to use, to misuse, abuse or get addicted to. Get used to it. They're here to stay. So, let's try to reduce those harms and right now we couldn't do it worse if we tried."

  • #2
    i want to know how come it has not helped more economies especially when so many people get rich off it? can one of our resident economists explain that for me? btw despite how it may sound, this is a serious question i have.

    Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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    • #3
      When you say it has not helped economies, what you mean exactly?

      What I mean is that if people getting rich off it it must be helping the economy to some extent? And since it is a locally produced product it must be generating employment, etc?

      You mean making the countries that export it obviously richer as a result of it? I don't know if we produce it in enough volume for that to happen.
      "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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      • #4
        Oregon considers growing marijuana

        http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/play...hp?cl=12453418

        Legalization won't necessarily help Jamaica, we could never grow as much as the u.s

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        • #5
          True, but we could market it as a "premium" brand like Blue Mountain coffee!

          If people around the world were asked to do a word association with Jamaica, marijuana would be right up there with Bob, reggae, and these days probably Bolt.
          "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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          • #6
            Legalise it !
            THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

            "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


            "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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            • #7
              Well, Well, Well

              Originally posted by Islandman
              True, but we could market it as a "premium" brand like Blue Mountain coffee! If people around the world were asked to do a word association with Jamaica, marijuana would be right up there with Bob, reggae, and these days probably Bolt.
              Oh, of course! And, whether you believe it or not, Jamaica (as well as Usain Bolt) would suffer, and suffer immensely! But as one poster said recently, Jamaicans are not afraid of anyone, and so, what else can I say….?!

              But like I’ve always stated here and elsewhere, it all adds up, and in the same way that our under-20 soccer team and their adult decision-makers were not afraid of that little upstart Central American nation called Honduras (and the name sounds a bit ordinary, doesn’t it?), why should we all be afraid of anyone or anything else on this planet?? So, legalization marijuana should definitely not be a problem for long-suffering Jamaicans!

              But looking closely at this legalize marijuana argument, it all adds up, piece by piece by piece.



              Originally posted by X View Post
              Legalise it !
              I agree, and I certainly agree with the same enthusiasm as those Mexican gangs that have been able to fund themselves in today’s ongoing war to a large extent because of their income from marijuana activities!


              But who am I to infringe on the expert arguments being promulgated here on this message board?

              And uh oh!! I suspect that I might owe a public apology here later…. I just recalled that this is a forum where some Jamaicans, from the confines of their comfortable, relatively crime-free offices outside of “messed-up” Jamaica, preach freely on possible solutions to our problems (even as our elected officials fight hard to obtain some relief/solution).

              Stupid me!!!

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              • #8
                historian...i find it EXTREMELY difficult to come to grips with the fact that a plant that god has made is illegal as it exists in its natural state without the any genetic alterations. that is just WRONG!

                if they say that it was the forbidden fruit in the garden of eden then there is some authority for it, if not then surely it must have been around then and was not forbidden so...

                as i said before, falling coconuts can seriously injure or kill, a byproduct of sugar cane is rum which can cause some SERIOUS diseases that can result in death. not to mention impairing people's judgment...i have seen some ugly girls get play purely through alcohol and that is reason enough for it to be criminalised. what next, cerasee? thyme? MINT?!

                the criminalisation of cannabis sativa is wrong.
                Last edited by Gamma; March 13, 2009, 06:01 PM.

                Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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                • #9
                  Oh No!

                  Originally posted by Gamma View Post
                  historian...i find it EXTREMELY difficult to come to grips with the fact that a plant that god has made is illegal as it exists in its natural state without the any genetic alterations. that is just WRONG!

                  as i said before, falling coconuts can seriously injure or kill, a byproduct of sugar cane is rum which can cause some SERIOUS diseases that can result in death. not to mention impairing people's judgment...i have seen some ugly girls get play purely through alcohol and that is reason enough for it to be criminalised. what next, cerasee? thyme? MINT?! the criminalisation of cannabis sativa is wrong.
                  Gamma, for some reason I’ve found that I rarely ever have cause to disagree with you on any topic, as you always seem, in my opinion, to make a lot of sense.

                  This time, however, I have to disagree. In fact, I will make you this promise: Any day I start supporting the opium producers and exporters of Afghanistan (the Taliban and their predecessors and successors are among the greatest controllers of this “product”), then I will immediately start supporting the marijuana producers and exporters of Jamaica!

                  As long as I live I will always be fascinated by the seeming fact that Jamaicans, more than any other people in this part of the world (aside from Haitians, Colombians and Mexicans) have made a conscious decision to eliminate our society from the face of the earth! I am Jamaican, and growing up in Jamaica I have seen the negative, sometimes violent effects of marijuana on boys and men (and not only at soccer games).

                  In my opinion, an opinion that I suspect some here don’t share, Jamaica has way, way too much homicide, rapes and other violent crimes. Is this a society that should even be contemplating any mind-altering “drug”?! (And yes, I know about the effects of alcohol, but as the Americans learned from the failed Prohibition experiment, it’s too late to save our people from alcohol.)

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                  • #10
                    well then it will always be a hypocritical stance. i wonder of it is illegl to grow poppies?

                    they sell poppyseed bagels and bread....

                    unlike you i do not tie the use of marijuana to crime...in fact the only crime i associate marijuana with has to do with the fact that it in itself is illega

                    i suspect that those persons who exhibi violent behavious when using marijauna were violent to begin with, already had criminal tendencies or were drinking to boot....of course i don't know and cannot prove this...but i do not believe that i have ever heard of marijuan causing violent behaviour unless, again because it is illegal, from a business point of view.

                    no doubt jamaica has some social maladies, to which the criminalisation of marijuana adds (creates convicts and criminals because it is illegal) unnecessarily i might add.

                    Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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