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    Obama, Geithner Get Low Grades From Economists


    By PHIL IZZO

    U.S. President Barack Obama and Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner received failing grades for their efforts to revive the economy from participants in the latest Wall Street Journal forecasting survey.


    Economists Give Obama an "F"

    3:13In striking contrast to President Obama's popularity with the public, a new Wall Street Journal survey of economists gives the president and his treasury secretary failing grades. WSJ's Phil Izzo and Kelly Evans discuss.





    The economists' assessment stands in stark contrast with Mr. Obama's popularity with the public, with a recent Wall Street Journal/NBC poll giving him a 60% approval rating. A majority of the 49 economists polled said they were dissatisfied with the administration's economic policies.
    On average, they gave the president a grade of 59 out of 100, and although there was a broad range of marks, 42% of respondents rated Mr. Obama below 60. Mr. Geithner received an average grade of 51. Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke scored better, with an average 71.



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    The economists, many of whom have been continually surprised by the depth of the downturn, also pushed back yet again their forecasts for when a recovery would begin. On average, they expect the downturn to end in October. Last month, they said the bottom would arrive in August. They estimate that U.S. gross domestic product will continue to contract in the first half of this year, with slow growth returning in the third quarter.
    Economists were divided over whether the $787 billion economic-stimulus package passed last month is enough. Some 43% said the U.S. will need another stimulus package on the order of nearly $500 billion. Others were skeptical of the need for stimulus at all.
    However, economists' main criticism of the Obama team centered on delays in enacting key parts of plans to rescue banks. "They overpromised and underdelivered," said Stephen Stanley of RBS Greenwich Capital. "Secretary Geithner scheduled a big speech and came out with just a vague blueprint. The uncertainty is hanging over everyone's head."
    Mr. Geithner unveiled the Obama administration's plans Feb. 10, but he offered few details, and stocks sank on the news. The Dow Jones Industrial Average is down almost 20% since the announcement, as multiple issues have weighed on investors' confidence. The Treasury secretary has since appeared before Congress and offered more specifics but has said action on key parts of the plan still is weeks away.
    About the Survey

    The Wall Street Journal surveys a group of 54 economists throughout the year. Broad surveys on more than 10 major economic indicators are conducted every month. Once a year, economists are ranked on how well their forecasts have fared. For prior installments of the surveys, see: WSJ.com/Economist.


    "We have taken an unprecedented level of action toward economic recovery, accomplishing in weeks what took other countries years to do," Treasury spokesman Isaac Baker said. "While Wall Street and investors were disappointed when they didn't get a sweeping bank bailout, we've laid out a plan to stabilize the financial system while protecting the taxpayer and ensuring government funds are spent wisely. This crisis was years in the making, and it will take time to solve."
    Treasury has started implementing a housing-recovery plan, moved forward on a joint program with the Fed to boost consumer lending, and has begun stress-testing banks in an effort to determine which institutions will need additional capital from the government. The results of the stress tests won't be known for a few weeks. Meanwhile, a key part of the plan -- a public-private partnership to take toxic assets off bank balance sheets -- remains in the planning stages.
    The economists' negative ratings mark a turnaround in opinion. In December, before Mr. Obama took office, three-quarters of respondents said the incoming administration's economic team was better than the departing Bush team. However, Mr. Geithner's latest marks are lower than the average grade of 57 that former Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson received in January.
    Mr. Geithner, who is relying on a skeleton crew of advisers in the Treasury Department as the administration struggles to make key appointments to his staff, is encountering the same problems as his predecessor in dealing with the complexities of a bailout plan. Richard DeKaser of Woodley Park Research, who gave high marks to Messrs. Obama and Geithner, admitted disappointment in the delay in action but said he appreciated the magnitude of the task. "I don't know what's holding it up," he said. "But I'm assuming it's not just because they're hitting the golf course."
    There was widespread initial support for the appointment of Mr. Geithner, who as president of the New York Federal Reserve had been on the front lines of the crisis since it erupted. However, in the ensuing weeks Mr. Geithner has had to deal with tax troubles and criticism from those opposed to any bailouts as well as those who think the government needs to be doing more.
    Meanwhile, the economists surveyed this month predict that the economy will shed another 2.8 million jobs over the next 12 months as the unemployment rate climbs to 9.3% by December, up from the 8.1% rate recorded in February. Economists also see nearly a one-in-six chance that the U.S. will fall into a depression, defined as a decline in per-person GDP or consumption by 10% or more.
    "We just keep moving the date [when the recession will end] out, hoping at some point in time we will be able to move the date back in," said Diane Swonk of Mesirow Financial.
    The economists didn't just single out the U.S. for criticism; 70% of participants said the response of governments around the world to the global recession has been inadequate. "The Europeans or Japanese don't seem to be doing near enough to kickstart their economies," said Nariman Behravesh of IHS Global Insight. "It could be we've done all the right things, but the rest of the world goes down the tubes."
    Despite the growing criticism elsewhere, the respondents were broadly supportive of the Fed. More than 85% of the economists agreed that the central bank's proliferating lending programs are well-designed, well-executed and helping the economy. And while grades for Mr. Bernanke remain off of their 2007 highs, the average has stabilized after falling as low as 69 in the November survey.
    Amid all the gloom, there is a bright spot: Four-fifths of the economists said now is a good time to buy equities, especially if the investor has a long-term view.
    Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else - Vince Lombardi

  • #2
    Many conservative economists opposed the stimulus package and believe gov't should not spend money to stimulate the economy. If productive gov't spending will create jobs, then that is a good thing.
    Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else - Vince Lombardi

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    • #3
      ...and now some banks are returning the funds!

      Could that have anything to do with public perception that the Obama government actions show the banking system will not be allowed to collapse?

      If so...was 'the help'/the actions too little, too late...or considering Obama is in office a mere few days...actions 'on the money' i.e. appropriate and swift...etc?
      "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Hortical View Post
        Many conservative economists opposed the stimulus package and believe gov't should not spend money to stimulate the economy. If productive gov't spending will create jobs, then that is a good thing.
        If it only brings belief to the various markets...i.e. increases confidence and have institutions and the people act accordingly...then it was great action by the Obama government!

        Some a dem damn 'econo-sheets' as Tosh would say...a gawn lacka '1 + 1 nuh = 2!
        "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."

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        • #5
          That a bit one-sided. Very few serious economists of any stripe are opposed to any kind of stimulus package. The differences are generally in the content of of the package.

          For example, some argue that there should be more spending on infrastructure that will have a more immediate benefit and less on some Obama pet projects like alternative energy research.

          Others think there should be more tax cuts for business investment and less on educational programs like Head Start. Not that those programs are not important and should not be funded, but it is not the kind of thing that will generate jobs and circulate money in the economy anytime in the near or medium term, and so has no place in a STIMULUS bill.
          "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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          • #6
            I would add though that if you listen to a lot of the Japanese whose economy has had more of this kind of thing in the last 30 years than any other major economy, some of them say that ANY kind of govt spending is better than no spending, even if it is mostly non-productive like a Bridge to Nowhere or equipping the military .

            So although clearly productive spending is what you would want ideally, it it may get to a point where if the economy does not respond that the govt will have to do some more non-productive spending anyway.
            "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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            • #7
              no dem just don't like the terms, so i guess dem alright

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              • #8
                Thats definately what it is.

                Some of them didn't want it in the first place, but were "strongly encouraged" by the govt to take it so as to lessen the stigma attached to it.
                "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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                • #9
                  That is not correct. There are serious economists who believe it is necessary to inject funds into the economy via infrastructure projects. Fixing roads & bridges keeps contractors working, they in turn hire workers, they order supplies from sub-contractors and there is a ripple effect in the economy.
                  Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else - Vince Lombardi

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                  • #10
                    What exactly did I say that is not correct?

                    I suspect you misread my post. What I said was that just about every economist I have read on both sides of the political landscape agree with a stimulus package, they differ on the content of the package.
                    "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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