RBSC

Collapse

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Seaga - Excellent Music Commentary!

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Seaga - Excellent Music Commentary!

    The overview of reggae and dancehall below is actually an excellent piece by Edward Seaga. It is worth reading!

    Also, take note of this powerful statement taken from the article below, and one with which
    I’m 100-percent in agreement: “The dancehall style is a sub-cultural phenomenon on which I have written and spoken many times. Personally, I wish it would fade away, returning music to the composition of tunes that can be whistled and freely able to be played everywhere. But this is not likely to happen. The end is not in sight because dancehall music is a product of a dynamic counter-culture.” - Edward Seaga

    Reggae and dancehall A culture clash
    Published: Sunday | February 22, 2009



    Edward Seaga

    It is felt, generally, that all Jamaican popular music can be described by one brand name - reggae. This assumption has been widely accepted because of the dominant position of reggae music, which has so captured international popularity that it is a phenomenon. But musical styles remain popular for only so many years. Then comes the period when the composing of new tunes ceases and, the music thereafter lives on in memories and reputation.

    Reggae reached that stage 25 years ago. Since Bob Marley's death in 1981, there have been little new popular reggae compositions. While this follows the pattern, it is amazing that a small country striving with some success for world recognition would virtually abandon its world-wide achievement in music mid-stream. But that is what has happened. It appears that the outside world is more interested in keeping reggae alive than is Jamaica.

    signature tune
    The musical successor to reggae arrived in two stages: first, a short-lived period of a different 'riddim' (rhythm) called rub-a-dub. This was introduced by two young Kingston College graduates who called themselves Michigan and Smiley. Their signature tune of this period was Rub-A-Dub Style.

    Although this new style had enough of each of the elements for successful popular music to keep it going (lyrics, rhythm, melody), it faded when the second stage occurred: deejay music (disc jockey), introducing its own star who himself was an attraction as a novelty. This was Yellow Man (Winston Foster), who was affected by a lack of melanin, which adds colour to the skin. Hence his 'yellow' pigmentation, because of inadequate melanin. Given the often insensitive treatment by members of the public who ridicule persons with this deficiency, Yellow Man did not retreat into the background. With consummate self-confidence he promoted himself on stage where in his signature tune, Mad Over Me, he proclaimed his attractiveness to women. He blew away rub-a dub.

    But Yellow Man was more than just a new singer, or a curiosity. He reintroduced the deejay style of music made popular in 1969/70 by King Stit (Winston Cooper) and U-Roy (Ewart Beckford) who created the first successful deejay tunes to capture the popular market. At one time, there were three records by U-Roy ranked 1, 2 and 3 on the hit chart.

    moved in a different direction
    Using this style, Yellow Man moved in a different direction, he not only promoted the deejay style but he pushed the envelop further. He openly introduced sexual references in the lyrics. This was wildly accepted by the crowds, especially women. When asked why he had ventured in this direction, he replied frankly, "Is slackness de people want and is slackness I ah give dem."

    The popularity of 'slackness' music grew, propelling the popularity of deejay music so that by the end of the 1980s it was completely dominant.
    Then another development occurred. The music became associated with an explosion of new and outrageously sexy fashions portraying a careless and daring lifestyle, for example, revealing underwear for men and, for women, extra-tight shorts. This became prominent in the early 1990s. As crime figures started to climb again, the lyrics added gun violence to sex and drugs. This new lifestyle of anti-social music and revealing fashion emerged, producing dancehall as a cultural way of life.

    The new star in this era of crassness was Shabba Ranks (Rexton Gordon) with a coarse voice that commanded attention. From that point, dancehall progressed, pushing the envelop to extremes in portraying more and more explicit sex, homophobia and gun violence. The music thrived on these three popular themes wildly supported by the younger segments of the underclasses.

    In its extreme form, dancehall has now been confronted by social interest groups leading to the banning of broadcasting of explicitly lewd, not just sexually-suggestive, lyrics. The social interest groups include those who want to extend the ban beyond the type of music in the Vybz Kartel and Spice hit, Rampin' Shop, which spelled out the sex act with relish and bravado. Some want to ban the revealing dress that goes with dancehall as well as the soca-based carnival.

    The Broadcasting Commission, which imposed the ban, is very likely to find itself in the middle of many protests if it cannot spell out in unambiguous terms what is lewd music in order to deal with borderline cases. There will be charges of favouritism and class discrimination if the first step in banning offensive music is not followed up with appropriate legislation and a well-thought-out credible policy.

    bootlegging
    Banning production could open the door to the bootlegging practices of selling records without labels as in the early days of the industry. There would be no problem in producing such clandestine recordings as it is said more recording units per square mile exist in Jamaica than anywhere in the world.

    The dancehall style is a sub-cultural phenomenon on which I have written and spoken many times. Personally, I wish it would fade away, returning music to the composition of tunes that can be whistled and freely able to be played everywhere. But this is not likely to happen. The end is not in sight because dancehall music is a product of a dynamic counter-culture.

    As I noted in my May 2005 inaugural address at the UWI:
    "This dynamic segment is to be found among young people who have shallow religious roots, detached from civil society, distanced from the tradition of the family, impatient with frustrating economic barriers and deprived of social space, creating their own order rooted in their own values and imperatives. They translate this into a way of life honouring the need for respect, power, money, sex and, where necessary, the retribution of violence.


    Michigan (left) and Smiley Contributed

    'The Broadcasting Commission which imposed the ban is very likely to find itself in the middle of many protests if it cannot spell out in unambiguous terms what is lewd music in order to deal with border line cases.'

    "They exist in a counter-culture which has broad support without theology, ideology, or even social commitment. It is individualistic and impulsive, deeply grounded in an expressive and creative self. As such, it carries a powerful base of cultural release which has solidly captivated a generation of youth as a renegade route to respect. The indicators of success emphasise material wealth.

    indicators of material success
    "This culture allows those with few resources to access the 'bling-bling' indicators of material success, ensuring that they can never be ignored. Dancehall is the musical expression of these realities".

    This powerful sub-culture, dancehall, has its own brand in association with rap and hip-hop music which are popular in the same societal background in the USA as in Jamaica. A choice can be made as to which brand direction Jamaica should promote - the revitalisation of reggae as a global brand with positive world-wide acceptance, or dancehall, with its supporting markets of positive and negative vibes.

    the issue has deep cultural roots. Brnds have a powerful influence on people, which is deeper than a ban on lewd music and offensive lyrids.
    Edward Seaga is a former Prime Minister. He is now a Distinguished Fellow at the UWI and Pro-vice chancellor at UTech.
    Feedback may be sent to adf@uwimona.edu.jm

  • #2
    I cannot see why people want a form of music to "go away" simply because they don't like it. Their energies would be better utilized pushing for better lyrical content. Dancehall music shall never die!!!!
    "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

    Comment


    • #3
      timeline excellent but just a few basic comment. King Yellow get too much credit as Slackness was well established before him in Welton Irie, General Echo and others. Yellow just took it to another level.

      As I said before the Broadcast Commisson has fallen down on the job and is acting impulsively(not good). They need to set basic standards without seeming so impulsive.
      • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

      Comment


      • #4
        Good Points!

        Originally posted by Assasin View Post
        timeline excellent but just a few basic comment. King Yellow get too much credit as Slackness was well established before him in Welton Irie, General Echo and others. Yellow just took it to another level.

        As I said before the Broadcast Commisson has fallen down on the job and is acting impulsively(not good). They need to set basic standards without seeming so impulsive.
        I fully agree with everything you’ve stated here, Assasin. The timeline as set out by Edward Seaga (whose knowledge of Jamaican popular music is immense) is indeed well and accurate stated. Also, like you correctly stated, King Yellowman did not originate the slackness trend, but rather, “took it to another level.”

        Guys like Prince Buster and Clancy Eccles and were recording lewd material long before Yellowman held a microphone!

        The biggest disappointment in this current situation, and you have highlighted this in your response above, is the Broadcasting Commission! Their hasty, impulsive response makes me feel that this body is really irrelevant (like all reactionary bodies are). Where was this entity during the many years of decline in Jamaican music!

        But isn’t this typical of how things are done in Jamaica? Just to cite one example, the Jamaican governments were aware all along that we did not have a functional drug policy for sports, but it was only after immense international pressure accompanied by not-so-subtle statements of suspicion that our government eventually made a move! If they had acted with alacrity the suspicions cast on Jamaica’s excellent athletes at Beijing would not have been so forceful or had such an impact in some circles!

        We are a laid-back nation, and this will have to change soon if we are to survive in this increasingly harsh and competitive global environment!!

        Comment


        • #5
          This generation of musicians is already lost. You can't get rid of it by just banning. What is needed is to systematically train the musicians, and curb the demand for the wildness by promoting better shows. A very good example is Shaggy and friends.

          Hopefully the environment that breed some a this gun culture will change(not very hopeful).
          • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

          Comment


          • #6
            Two things here that I th nk are relevant. In Eddie's analysis he gives no reason as to why the music changed from the 70's to the 80's. The fact is slackness was tacitly encouraged by the powers that be in the 80's I wonder why ? and who was in charge of the country then. I am sure it was just a coincidence. Secondly, Romping shop lyricaly is not filth. The unedited version shouldn't be played non the radio but I agree with Carolyn Cooper that all it describes is hetersexual jousting between a man and his woman. In the 60's there was Prince buster's Wreck-a-Pum-Pum, the heptones Fattie-Fattie, Clancy Eccles' Pu##y Price gone up this not preclude Bob, Peter, Dennis, Ken Booth etc from dominating. What happened in the 80's.

            Comment


            • #7
              "The fact is slackness was tacitly encouraged by the powers that be in the 80's I wonder why ?"

              How can you single out the 80s?
              • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by Assasin View Post
                "The fact is slackness was tacitly encouraged by the powers that be in the 80's I wonder why ?"

                How can you single out the 80s?
                Not only dat ... mi curious how him come to that conclusion. I wonder if he can explain it.
                "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

                Comment


                • #9
                  The point assassin is we always had slack tunes for every generation and class. There was concerted effort to tone down the consciousness in the 80's for many reasons dont act like you don't know and that you don't know why. You mentioned General Echo nuff said. Nothing Kartel did in Romping shop comes close. There is a lot of hypocracy going around here both fromthe dancehall defenders and the Soca-loveing authorities. However, I think the dancehall guys have apoint here and the authorities better be careful where this debate leads. I agree with most if not all that Seaga said but this is not the first time that his memory has been shall we say a bit selective in his writings.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Assasin
                    "The fact is slackness was tacitly encouraged by the powers that be in the 80's I wonder why ?" How can you single out the 80s?
                    Originally posted by Lazie
                    Not only dat ... mi curious how him come to that conclusion. I wonder if he can explain it.
                    I too am curious, very curious as to why he singled out the 1980s!

                    Originally posted by Rudi View Post
                    I agree with Carolyn Cooper that all it describes is hetersexual jousting between a man and his woman.
                    With respect to Carolyn Cooper, why do people even bother to continue to pay attention to her? A great part of Jamaica’s problem, I feel, stems from sections of the so-called intelligentsia!! In the same way that an institution like the UWI has largely made itself irrelevant through a single-minded focus on black history and other historical theoretical issues over science and technology, in the same way people like Cooper seek popularity by pandering to the lowest common denominator of our society!

                    I will never forget Ninja Man’s greater show of an intellectual grasp of Jamaica’s social problems at that UWI-sponsored presentation (I posted that news article here several months ago). Ninja Man showed Jamaica who has a greater grasp of issues and in the process put Carolyn Cooper in her place that night!

                    To hell with what she thinks!

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      It is not so much his "selective" but his history. While Echo and Welton Irie them did there thing this was mainly in the dancehall where people like Seaga never really venture. Yellow really the first one to take it to another level.
                      • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Normally, I would agree with you with regard to her opinions. But sometimes those with whom we disagree with are correct. The lyrics in Romping shop describe male female sexual jousting period. Ban the unedited version on the radio by all means. But this banning thing going reach Soca and carnival now. Do you really think the authorities intended that. You have placed me in the awkward position of defending Kartel geez.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Rudi View Post
                          But this banning thing going reach Soca and carnival now. Do you really think the authorities intended that. You have placed me in the awkward position of defending Kartel geez.
                          And why wouldn't they have intended that?

                          There will be charges class discrimination if the first step in banning offensive music is not followed up with appropriate legislation and a well-thought-out credible policy.
                          I seem to have found the answer to my own question

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Rudi View Post
                            Normally, I would agree with you with regard to her opinions. But sometimes those with whom we disagree with are correct. The lyrics in Romping shop describe male female sexual jousting period. Ban the unedited version on the radio by all means. But this banning thing going reach Soca and carnival now. Do you really think the authorities intended that. You have placed me in the awkward position of defending Kartel geez.
                            I've asked time and again, how many soca songs you know of need editing or has gone as far as our dancehall artistes? By the way, what was wrong with Fattie Fattie?
                            "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              Romping shop is been singled out and maybe not fair but back in the days you had 3 djs who you could blacklist but now you have hundreds all recording nothing but slackness. Slackness can be distasteful but for me the violent lyrics is what I am totally against.
                              • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X