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  • historian...harry j allstars vs staple singers

    i was told that liquidatir was first in time and that it was harry j who initiated suit against the staple singers...

    i will try to find out what i can. i was also told that the song was recording after a day of.... "inspiration"

    Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_J

    sho 'nuff

    Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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    • #3
      yup...1969 vs 1972

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I'll_Take_You_There

      Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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      • #4
        Thanks, Gamma

        Originally posted by Gamma View Post
        i was told that liquidatir was first in time and that it was harry j who initiated suit against the staple singers...

        i will try to find out what i can. i was also told that the song was recording after a day of.... "inspiration"
        Thanks for this post, Gamma. Yep, “Liquidator” was recorded first, and the Staple Singers’ recording of “I’ll Take You There” obviously lifted the bass line from the Harry J studio musicians recording.

        Nevertheless, I have always had a problem with Harry J over that song, and it is directly related to hw some of our highly regarded (overrated?) producers were/are more egotists than anything else! Look, for example, at the name of the group, “The Harry J Allstars”!! The fact is that “Liquidator” belonged to the much-recorded keyboard player Winston Wright, and Harry J had NOTHING whatsoever to do with the creation of that song! Nevertheless, just look at the name of the group credited with recording “I’ll Take You There”!!

        By the way, my question several weeks ago had to do with the outcome of the court case regarding the Staple Singers’ alleged copyright infringement in using the Kingston session men’s rhythm.

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        • #5
          re: harry j...that accords EXACTLY with what my source told me.

          Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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          • #6
            and you are right, that is exactly the point that you had made. i will follow up to see if i can get any info on the outcome of the court case. btw i presume it was brought in the states? do you know?

            Infidelity does not consist in believing, or in disbelieving; it consists in professing to believe what he does not believe. Thomas Paine

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            • #7
              Re: Harry J

              Originally posted by Gamma View Post
              re: harry j...that accords EXACTLY with what my source told me.
              and you are right, that is exactly the point that you had made. i will follow up to see if i can get any info on the outcome of the court case. btw i presume it was brought in the states? do you know?
              Your source was certainly correct, Gamma. In fact, it has always been my view that record producers like Clement “Coxone” Dodd and Harry J, among others, get more ratings than they truly deserve!

              I’m not sure if the court case was in Jamaica or in the USA; it’s been such a long time.

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