Ban carnival too, says Ras Kassa

[Bricktop]

All the soca party and carnival I've attended mi never see such crap. Mi nuh know what tek Bricktop! But a the norm, once dancehall is criticized, people bitch and complain bout soca.

What other relevant form of musical expression takes place in Jamaica other than Soca and Dancehall? Who is complaining about Soca? Where have I said anything negative against Soca? I simply pointed out the hypocrisy. Lionpaw posted a video of Jouvert with women writhing and gyrating in mud and paint but yet you seh yuh neva see dat when you go Soca party

[Lazie]

No matter how much good arguments yuh bring it falls on deaf ears. Dancehall has a stigma attached. It is a leggo beast ting and deserves scorn

Dancehall has a stigma? The problem isn't with dancehall its with the daggering crap. How many times yuh need fi see the same quote?

"A statement from the commission, published in The Sunday Gleaner, said radio, television and cable companies should not air songs or videos containing daggerin' lyrics or scenes."

They said nothing about dancehall stop twist what the people said.

[Bricktop]

Dancehall has a stigma? The problem isn't with dancehall its with the daggering crap. How many times yuh need fi see the same quote?

"A statement from the commission, published in The Sunday Gleaner, said radio, television and cable companies should not air songs or videos containing daggerin' lyrics or scenes."

They said nothing about dancehall stop twist what the people said.

And before "daggering" there were no issues with Dancehall?

[Lazie]

What other relevant form of musical expression takes place in Jamaica other than Soca and Dancehall? Who is complaining about Soca? Where have I said anything negative against Soca? I simply pointed out the hypocrisy. Lionpaw posted a video of Jouvert with women writhing and gyrating in mud and paint but yet you seh yuh neva see dat when you go Soca party

You're the one making an issue of it BT. I love dancehall music too, but if you're being honest you'd have to admit that this daggerin foolishness is a new low. Why not address that than point out what happen at a soca event? Thats the problem I've always had everything dancehall is questioned the quickest response is to point at soca.

"women writhing and gyrating in mud and paint" is the same thing as the daggerin foolishness? Check the videos posted by Triniman.

[Lazie]

And before "daggering" there were no issues with Dancehall?

hehehehe ... who tap dancing now?

[Bricktop]

How am I tap dancing? My point is that Dnacehall has a stigma. Your response is to post up the article with the Broadcast Commission's statement. So what of Soca? No ban on "daggering" in Soca? This brings the argument full circle to my point that Dancehall has a stigma and is therefore not treated equally as Soca. No tap dancing round her

[Jangle]

Lazie the commission is going down a very dangerous path by banning "daggering" videos and songs. "Daggering" can be substituted by "wine", "dollar wine" and other words which have been accepted over the years. I remember growing up I could not sing "If you think I am sexy" by Rod Stewart around and adults without getting cuffed. I am arguing simply on the principles of the ban, even though I hate "daggering". Now they have to look about banning 90-odd percent of today's hip-hop and R & B songs. King of Slackness - Little Wayne. RayJ had a big hit last year about "sliding down the pole with no panties on". That song really disgusted me as it left nothing to the imagination - I have a teenaged daughter. There is absolutely nothing that I, as a parent, can do to stop my daughter from listening to this song. Now RayJ has his own "pimpin" show on VH1.

[Bricktop]

You're the one making an issue of it BT. I love dancehall music too, but if you're being honest you'd have to admit that this daggerin foolishness is a new low. Why not address that than point out what happen at a soca event? Thats the problem I've always had everything dancehall is questioned the quickest response is to point at soca.

"women writhing and gyrating in mud and paint" is the same thing as the daggerin foolishness? Check the videos posted by Triniman.

New low? Every new style dat come out dem seh it's a new low. It's just the evolution of the art form and the widening generation gap. This is nuttin new. Elvis Presley wiggling his hips was once a new low in Rock N Roll music people just need something to lick out gainst. Nuttin wrong wit daggering. I don't like all daggering songs i just don't listen the ones I don't like.. Simple.

[Lazie]

How am I tap dancing? My point is that Dnacehall has a stigma. Your response is to post up the article with the Broadcast Commission's statement. So what of Soca? No ban on "daggering" in Soca? This brings the argument full circle to my point that Dancehall has a stigma and is therefore not treated equally as Soca. No tap dancing round her

That was your point? Or is it an attempt to spin? The Commission's statement is in the original article that started the thread or yuh going to admit you didn't read it?

Women dancing in mud / paint is nothing compared to what I saw on the ladder! What kind a equality yuh looking for with soca? Dancehall is bigger than soca, suh why yuh complaining? We must can deal with the daggerin foolishness without pointing fingers elsewhere.

[Lazie]

Lazie the commission is going down a very dangerous path by banning "daggering" videos and songs. "Daggering" can be substituted by "wine", "dollar wine" and other words which have been accepted over the years. I remember growing up I could not sing "If you think I am sexy" by Rod Stewart around and adults without getting cuffed. I am arguing simply on the principles of the ban, even though I hate "daggering". Now they have to look about banning 90-odd percent of today's hip-hop and R & B songs. King of Slackness - Little Wayne. RayJ had a big hit last year about "sliding down the pole with no panties on". That song really disgusted me as it left nothing to the imagination - I have a teenaged daughter. There is absolutely nothing that I, as a parent, can do to stop my daughter from listening to this song. Now RayJ has his own "pimpin" show on VH1.

Lets see if they have the balls to follow thru! Daggerin is nothing close to wine or dollar wine. Again, I refer you to the videos posted by Triniman. Regarding tunes from Rayj and others, the commission is proposing a ban on any songs that require beeping.

[Lazie]

New low? Every new style dat come out dem seh it's a new low. It's just the evolution of the art form and the widening generation gap. This is nuttin new. Elvis Presley wiggling his hips was once a new low in Rock N Roll music people just need something to lick out gainst. Nuttin wrong wit daggering. I don't like all daggering songs i just don't listen the ones I don't like.. Simple.

New art form? WTF???? Anyway, the BC get my support pon this one.

[Bricktop]

We must can deal with the daggerin foolishness without pointing fingers elsewhere.

That's the point. How can you outlaw one "foolishness" while letting another "foolishness" flourish?

[OJ]

what came first the chicken or the egg? When you allow kiddie daggering dances what do you expect. The issue is not with romping shop.. but the fact that it was allowed to be palyed on the air... You cant ban vivid ( a suh it go) but you can make rate it appropriately and not put it on basic cable... We need leadership and not just reaction when the horse or ass leaves the barn..or karel romping shoppe..

[Lazie]

That's the point. How can you outlaw one "foolishness" while letting another "foolishness" flourish?

Wait, at no point did I say soca music/dancing is foolishness, so at this point, you're the one in a pickle. I rather see Allison Hinds turn round and say "Roll it Gal!" while showing how fi roll it, than that foolishness unuh call art form!"

[Naminirt]

wel thsi soca song has daggering in it so they would have to ban it i guess

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ciMhJ1mVsE