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    It is time to become proactive and not just reactive

    Lloyd B Smith

    Tuesday, February 03, 2009

    "Is it not odd that while other countries are reducing interest rates, Jamaica is not? Is it not odd that while other countries are seeking economic expansion to grow their way out of the recession, Jamaica is contracting its economy? Something is wrong. The policy mix needs urgent review." So said former prime minister, Edward Seaga while giving the keynote address at the Jamaica Stock Exchange's Investment and Capital Market Conference at Rose Hall Resort and Country Club, Montego Bay, on January 27.

    Lloyd B Smith

    There is a Jamaican saying that "if fish come from river bottom and say there is shark down there, then believe 'im". Edward Phillip George Seaga, like it or not, has been one of Jamaica's great minds when it comes to matters financial.

    Yes, he may have forgotten about one of his loans, as some of his detractors are quick to quip, and during his tenure as prime minister or as minister of finance and planning, his policies might not always have worked, but as an institution builder and one who has had a full grasp of the Jamaican economic landscape, he stands head and shoulders above most of those who make their mark in that field.

    And what makes his recent utterances even more timely and instructive is that he was speaking in the presence of the current minister of finance Audley Shaw as well as his immediate predecessor, Dr Omar Davies. I was at that function and I observed with some amount of interest and amusement the body language of both men as Mr Seaga delved into his presentation entitled, "The paralysis of high interest rates." Both men appeared to be far from being at ease. Dr Davies often looked up into the ceiling of the ballroom as if saying to himself, "Here we go again," while Mr Shaw, for the most part, bowed his head as if in prayer (for deliverance, perhaps?)

    Those sitting near to me revelled in the fact that here was a former leader of the Jamaica Labour Party taking pot shots at a JLP administration. But what is wrong with that, I asked.

    Patriot first, partisan second. In this vein, Mr Seaga must be commended for his candour, insight and no-holes-barred intervention.

    Said he inter alia: "This strategy to compress the economy by driving up interest rates has several negative consequences:


    SEAGA... has been one of Jamaica's great minds

    . The cost of debt will increase

    . So will consumer and other prices

    . Higher interest rates will attract investment away from the stock market reducing investment on the exchange

    . Economic growth, which is already marginal, will falter and slide.
    As simple as ABC?

    Is Mr Seaga revealing something that the rest of us do not know? Most certainly not. Just about everyone who is into some kind of business and who has to borrow from a bank knows and appreciates what the erudite former politician is expatiating about. So why does the Bank of Jamaica with the apparent blessing of the Bruce Golding administration continue to cause interest rates to go up in order, it insists, to mop up liquidity which, if not done, will see the Jamaican dollar being seriously marginalised by its United States counterpart? Who or what really benefits from this seemingly ludicrous and impractical policy?

    Help, Ralston Hyman, John Jackson, et al. You are the gurus out there. Explain to us lesser mortals what the hell is happening to us, please!
    And what about our indefatigable and ever so vocal minister of finance? What is his response to this statement from Mr Seaga. "It is easy to blame the banks but government persists in issuing debt instruments at extraordinarily high rates which set the bar for the banking industry.
    "It is time to come to grips with this dilemma by thorough study and effective action. I believe lower interest rates will attract more customer response and could compensate for the reduced margins of the banks. An empirical study is needed to determine what steps could be taken."

    So Maas Eddie has thrown down the gauntlet, but will he and the rest of us who are already pilloried by this high interest rate regime and a falling dollar get any meaningful, positive responses from officialdom or the captains of industry? Will his observations be dismissed as just the rantings and ravings of an old man who has been there, done that? Or will his recommendations be taken on with a sense of urgency?

    What is most disconcerting to me is that this JLP administration, with all its criticisms of the previous PNP regime, seems hell-bent on sticking to the same old, tired, non-productive policies of the 70s, 80s and 90s. One would have thought that given the current world recession, the full effects of which have not yet come to our shores, the Shaw-Wehby-Nelson team (popularly known as "One Third") would be seeking to sing a different tune.

    To begin with, government needs to do everything in its power to grow the economy, not contract it. And those of us who form part of the productive sector are most disappointed that to date all we are getting a lot of is talk, talk, talk; promises, promises, promises. It is time to become proactive and not just reactive - a classic case of trying to catch the horse after it has bolted through the gate and sped away!

    If Mr Seaga is right, then let the debate begin and let us go back to the drawing table as a nation and come up with a mix of policies that will take us on the road to economic independence. We as a people are tired of seeing our prime ministers and ministers of finance being international mendicants; we are tired of watching successive governments pursuing policies that lead to stagnation rather than growth.

    If Mr Seaga is wrong, then let those who have the right answers come forth and be heard loud and clear in the corridors. In these adverse times, many opportunities abound but government must inspire, provide the necessary incentives and create the appropriate environment in which dreams will not just come to die, but to flourish. An icon of the Jamaican socio-political landscape has spoken. Will he be yet one more John the Baptist crying out in the wilderness of despair and hopelessness?
    Last edited by Karl; February 3, 2009, 02:43 PM.
    • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

  • #2
    Strange, all of a sudden we're ready to give a listening ear to a man who was able to grow our economy to the highest level since 1971. Mr. Seaga have been saying this for weeks now .... but then ... Dominique Strauss-Kahn has a different take on the move (see article below). Its such a pity there cannot be some serious discussion about this high interest rate move. Some financial experts claim that this is temporary, I certainly hope so, but then after hanging up they are mocked by Ralston Hyman and his sidekick Thwaites.

    BOJ did the right thing, says IMF boss

    Published: Friday | December 19, 2008

    Dominique Strauss-Kahn has backed the decision of the central bank to raise interest rates even as some of the country's business leaders warn there was danger in going too far.

    "The successive interest rate increases observed this year, seeking to stabilise foreign exchange markets and to reduce inflation expectations, have been timely and appropriate," said Strauss-Kahn, managing director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), during a pass through visit to Jamaica en route to Costa Rica.

    Jamaica's debt to GDP ratio is now estimated at 111 per cent, and while this is down from last year's 132 per cent, the IMF chief said Jamaica was left with limited options for economic stimulus because of the high ratio.
    Government subsequently announced a stimulus package that is at least $28 billion in value, with some items left to be costed.

    The BOJ this year has hiked signal rates five times, but it was the drastic nature of the last adjustment two weeks ago that had private sector bosses concerned.

    The central bank signals the direction for interest rates through open market instruments that it sells to financial houses.
    On December 1, the rates on BOJ certificates of deposit were increased by as much as 7.3 points on the longest tenor, pushing the one-year instrument to 24 per cent. The three-month sold for 17 per cent, up by more than two percentage points.

    But the Private Sector Organisation of Jamaica (PSOJ), which represents a wide cross section of businesses in Jamaica, including the most powerful, has warned that holding rates high would increase the cost of capital and in turn be bad for business in a situation where several were already struggling to keep afloat.

    But imbedded within corporate Jamaica's position was a realisation that the authorities had to act to bring stability to the system, where companies are dependent on a stable currency to properly predict their cost of doing business.

    "We are of the view that this move will inevitably raise interest rates across the financial system, putting more pressure on an already weak real economy at a time when a global crisis is taking severe pressure on us," said PSOJ president Christopher Zacca at the business grouping's annual Christmas luncheon.

    Keynote speaker
    Strauss-Kahn was keynote speaker at that event.
    There has been no public statement on whether the central bank is willing to compromise on the timeline, but four years ago when it took similar action, the downward adjustment of signal rates began shortly after.
    However, loan rates did not adjust at the same pace.

    Edward Chin-Mook, president of the Small Business Association of Jamaica - an affiliate of the PSOJ, last week described the interest rate hike as "scandalous, retrograde and consistent with poor fiscal leadership".
    However, Strauss-Kahn said decisions at this time could not be based solely on the interest of businesses, but on what the country could afford in order to protect its current and fiscal accounts.

    Tassistance
    The IMF is already providing technical assistance to Jamaica in the reform of its accounting and fiscal monitoring systems.
    Strauss-Kahn promised that his agency would continue to provide assistance and work closely with Jamaica on its policy responses to the crisis.

    While in Jamaica, he met with Prime Minister Bruce Golding, BOJ governor Derick Latibeaudiere, minister without portfolio in the Finance Ministry Don Wehby and Finance Minister Audley Shaw, with whom he also shared a joint press conference.
    "We fully support the authorities' timetable for achieving a balanced fiscal budget over the medium term, which is one of the key ingredients towards that goal," said the IMF head. "The authorities' intention to rationalise public entities while moving forward with reforms to include these in the budget is a key initiative that will add credibility to budget and public debt reduction targets."
    john.myers@gleanerjm.com

    http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/glean...usiness12.html
    "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Lazie View Post
      Strange, all of a sudden we're ready to give a listening ear to a man who was able to grow our economy to the highest level since 1971. Mr. Seaga have been saying this for weeks now .... but then ... Dominique Strauss-Kahn has a different take on the move (see article below). Its such a pity there cannot be some serious discussion about this high interest rate move. Some financial experts claim that this is temporary, I certainly hope so, but then after hanging up they are mocked by Ralston Hyman and his sidekick Thwaites.

      BOJ did the right thing, says IMF boss

      Published: Friday | December 19, 2008

      Dominique Strauss-Kahn has backed the decision of the central bank to raise interest rates even as some of the country's business leaders warn there was danger in going too far.

      "The successive interest rate increases observed this year, seeking to stabilise foreign exchange markets and to reduce inflation expectations, have been timely and appropriate," said Strauss-Kahn, managing director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), during a pass through visit to Jamaica en route to Costa Rica.

      Jamaica's debt to GDP ratio is now estimated at 111 per cent, and while this is down from last year's 132 per cent, the IMF chief said Jamaica was left with limited options for economic stimulus because of the high ratio.
      Government subsequently announced a stimulus package that is at least $28 billion in value, with some items left to be costed.

      The BOJ this year has hiked signal rates five times, but it was the drastic nature of the last adjustment two weeks ago that had private sector bosses concerned.

      The central bank signals the direction for interest rates through open market instruments that it sells to financial houses.
      On December 1, the rates on BOJ certificates of deposit were increased by as much as 7.3 points on the longest tenor, pushing the one-year instrument to 24 per cent. The three-month sold for 17 per cent, up by more than two percentage points.

      But the Private Sector Organisation of Jamaica (PSOJ), which represents a wide cross section of businesses in Jamaica, including the most powerful, has warned that holding rates high would increase the cost of capital and in turn be bad for business in a situation where several were already struggling to keep afloat.

      But imbedded within corporate Jamaica's position was a realisation that the authorities had to act to bring stability to the system, where companies are dependent on a stable currency to properly predict their cost of doing business.

      "We are of the view that this move will inevitably raise interest rates across the financial system, putting more pressure on an already weak real economy at a time when a global crisis is taking severe pressure on us," said PSOJ president Christopher Zacca at the business grouping's annual Christmas luncheon.

      Keynote speaker
      Strauss-Kahn was keynote speaker at that event.
      There has been no public statement on whether the central bank is willing to compromise on the timeline, but four years ago when it took similar action, the downward adjustment of signal rates began shortly after.
      However, loan rates did not adjust at the same pace.

      Edward Chin-Mook, president of the Small Business Association of Jamaica - an affiliate of the PSOJ, last week described the interest rate hike as "scandalous, retrograde and consistent with poor fiscal leadership".
      However, Strauss-Kahn said decisions at this time could not be based solely on the interest of businesses, but on what the country could afford in order to protect its current and fiscal accounts.

      Tassistance
      The IMF is already providing technical assistance to Jamaica in the reform of its accounting and fiscal monitoring systems.
      Strauss-Kahn promised that his agency would continue to provide assistance and work closely with Jamaica on its policy responses to the crisis.

      While in Jamaica, he met with Prime Minister Bruce Golding, BOJ governor Derick Latibeaudiere, minister without portfolio in the Finance Ministry Don Wehby and Finance Minister Audley Shaw, with whom he also shared a joint press conference.
      "We fully support the authorities' timetable for achieving a balanced fiscal budget over the medium term, which is one of the key ingredients towards that goal," said the IMF head. "The authorities' intention to rationalise public entities while moving forward with reforms to include these in the budget is a key initiative that will add credibility to budget and public debt reduction targets."
      john.myers@gleanerjm.com

      http://www.jamaica-gleaner.com/glean...usiness12.html
      The problem is Seaga is a good finance man but a horrible Politician, he choose to be the later during his public life so his intelect never came through.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Scaly View Post
        The problem is Seaga is a good finance man but a horrible Politician, he choose to be the later during his public life so his intelect never came through.
        ummmm .... I wonder what things would be like if we had made the correct decisions as a people Scaly? A good politician or a good finance man? Decisions ... decisions. Oh well, now we saw where we went wrong.
        "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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        • #5
          Scaly not that it didn't come through but we sometimes mix up both.

          I have someone close to my family who has worked with them all and she one told that he is excellent at public policies and strategy. I think He is however very bad at public relationship and think he is alway the go to guy and as you say politician.

          The difference with Seaga is he has never been afraid to say what is on his mind, something we need a little bit more from our modern day politicans, too much "party come first". When Seaga was in opposition we though he was just been bitter but he hasn't held his tongue one bit.
          • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Scaly View Post
            The problem is Seaga is a good finance man but a horrible Politician, he choose to be the later during his public life so his intelect never came through.
            Seaga's big problem is that he actively participated (with Manley) in dividing Jamaicans and fostering a sick culture of violence, dissension and lack of cooperative action.

            That completely devalues his being a good financial technocrat.
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            Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

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            • #7
              He was also a pi$$ poor leader in general.

              If you are in charge of an organization (JLP) for 30 years and spend half of it fighting leadership battles, and in the end still can't find anyone you think is worthy to succeed you, then you have failed as a leader.
              "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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              • #8
                "Patriot first, partisan second"

                Is this guy for real? Where was that patriotism when he was turning the country on its head in the late 70s?
                "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Assasin View Post
                  Said he inter alia: "This strategy to compress the economy by driving up interest rates has several negative consequences:
                  What does "inter alia" mean?


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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                    What does "inter alia" mean?
                    Isn't that a team in Serie A?
                    TIVOLI: THE DESTRUCTION OF JAMAICA'S EVIL EMPIRE

                    Recognizing the victims of Jamaica's horrendous criminality and exposing the Dummies like Dippy supporting criminals by their deeds.. or their silence.

                    D1 - Xposing Dummies since 2007

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                    • #11
                      Lazie, are you satisfied that One Third are doing the right thing?


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                      • #12
                        "The successive interest rate increases observed this year, seeking to stabilise foreign exchange markets and to reduce inflation expectations, have been timely and appropriate," said Strauss-Kahn, managing director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), during a pass through visit to Jamaica en route to Costa Rica.
                        Raising interest rates is a terrible mistake. We always do what is best for others to the detriment of Jamaicans.
                        Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else - Vince Lombardi

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                          Lazie, are you satisfied that One Third are doing the right thing?
                          Satisfied is not the word anyone should be using now. I'd have to see the economy growing for that to happen and seeing the climate we're in, thats not gonna happen.
                          1. As one that has been calling for our gov't to go back to the multilaterals, I'm in agreement with the moves they've made there.
                          2. The feedback from the players in the various sectors regarding the stimulus seems satisfactory.
                          3. Not certain what to say about the high interest rates. 2 respected financial minds have given different views on that move. They do need to take steps to get the J$ under control, but then increasing interest rates at a time like this seems very harsh.
                          "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Hortical View Post
                            Raising interest rates is a terrible mistake. We always do what is best for others to the detriment of Jamaicans.
                            Others? Define others?
                            "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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                            • #15
                              I appreciate the response sans insults and barbs.


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