Jamaica vs. Trini Cultural Expression

[Naminirt]

Lazie daggering is foolishness come on now thats a hot tune

[Gamma]

"gimme money"

[Gamma]

are you all saying that claypso is soca and soca is calypso?

[Lazie]

Lazie daggering is foolishness come on now thats a hot tune

True, to say it is foolishness is doing the word an injustice.

[Lazie]

are you all saying that claypso is soca and soca is calypso?

Well, I do! If there is a difference, mek mi know.

[Exile]

No! Two different thing! e beats of soca 120/min plus.

[Lazie]

No! Two different thing! e beats of soca 120/min plus.

Suh its just the beat? Allison Hind's "Kim" is what? Soca? Ask mi a ask. I've always lumped everything as one, apparently I was wrong all along.

[OJ]

Funny....I read this with many moods. I disagree somewhat with historian as I dont belive Reggae sumfest or Sunplash are truly passive exhibition of culture. Not sure 5 nights of dancing to reggae from dusk till dwan is passive. It may not be carnival but in its own way its is an expression of culture. On the other hand this new Desaca (whatever them name) 1 million bars per minute crap is already calyspo..

[Lionpaw]

Lazie, nuh matter what u say, Daggering is the hottes thing in JA right now, whether u like it or not. It might be nothing compared to Soca, IN YOUR OPINION but u cant go round it. JA people nuh want nuttin wid Soca a jus daggerin a dweet. We nuh believe in man a whine by demself like Soca. Daggerin inolves MAN and WOMAN. Nuh man cant go pon no stage a ghetto a whine up whine up by himself like machel. str8 bullet him wi get.

[MdmeX]

I was introduced to C'val as a teenager at UWI who was mystified by the passionate embrace of the students from the EC of steelpan music, last lap (ring road), mas, fetes, a huge show and even j'ouvert. .

That's how I remember carnival - was not at UWI, but was at neighboring CAST then.

[Lionpaw]

Funny....I read this with many moods. I disagree somewhat with historian as I dont belive Reggae sumfest or Sunplash are truly passive exhibition of culture. Not sure 5 nights of dancing to reggae from dusk till dwan is passive. It may not be carnival but in its own way its is an expression of culture. On the other hand this new Desaca (whatever them name) 1 million bars per minute crap is already calyspo..

this speedin up thing translating to calypso is a silly argument fi tell the truth. look how much other genres of music have fast beats. all a dem a calypso to? so latin music a calypso. and techno a calypso to? wha bout rock and roll a calypso dat to? silliness dat.

[Me]

Lazie, nuh matter what u say, Daggering is the hottes thing in JA right now, whether u like it or not. It might be nothing compared to Soca, IN YOUR OPINION but u cant go round it. JA people nuh want nuttin wid Soca a jus daggerin a dweet. We nuh believe in man a whine by demself like Soca. Daggerin inolves MAN and WOMAN. Nuh man cant go pon no stage a ghetto a whine up whine up by himself like machel. str8 bullet him wi get.

Soca have more man and woman dancing together than dancehall right now.

Right now Dancehall have the most funny man involved in its history. Half of the dancer bleach out face and funny. And half of them always pushing out woman out of the video light to dance with each other. Man a stookie and do funny man version of nuh linga with each other. rumpist them a run dancehall now.

[Lionpaw]

yes, but no way in hell can a man stand up and do no belly dance or nuh rhatid whine up and dem ********************man dance deh by himself inna di dance. and the bleaching thing is of the past now. unnuh 2 years behind. bleachers done get bun outta the dance floor. catch up mon.

[Mosiah]

tank yuh very much. i don't agree one bit dat any kind of daggerin' music is an offshoot of soca. nonsense!

[Mosiah]

Poor Lazie.

Lazie, quick question - yuh can tell di difference between dancehall and reggae?