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  • The "Informer-fe-dead" Culture!

    The concerns expressed below by the DPP are similar to what I've been expressing elsewhere for over two decades!

    But then again, my consistent theme has been that there is much that is wrong about our attitude, way of life and culture in general. But do we see these things? On the contrary, in many cases when concern is expressed, the rather narrow and rather ultra-nationalistic response has been that we are anti-Jamaican, or some idea like that. Now, the **************** is hitting the roof and many still fail to realize that the problem resides inside of us!

    (Of course, the extremely corrupt, incompetent police force has contributed in immense ways to this silence, this refusal to "inform", that exists in many communities.)

    'Informer-fi-dead' culture must end - DPP

    Published: Wednesday | December 17, 2008


    Llewellyn


    The Director of Public Prosecutions Paula Llewellyn yesterday blasted Jamaica's culture of silence, saying it was holding back the justice system and threatened community safety.

    Llewellyn staunchly supported the efforts of the Jamaica Constabulary Force's (JCF) community policing strategies, lambasting community members for protecting criminals through their silence.

    Hold communities accountable
    In her address to students who participated in the JCF national schools' poster competition last Friday at the Hilton hotel in St Andrew, Llewellyn appealed to children to hold their communities accountable and urged them to play a part in the justice system.

    "This informer-fi-dead culture that if you tell what you know or have seen, that somebody may do something bad to you, needs to change," she said. John McLean, assistant commissioner of police for community safety and security, said 38 community-policing areas had been established in the 19 police divisions across the country with much success.

  • #2
    The problem can only begin to be solved when informers feel sure that the police won't sell them out.

    This is a huge problem... even in my neighbourhood where a group of young punks have been breaking into cars my neighbours who have id'ed the boys won't go to the police ... fear of reprisal.
    Peter R

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    • #3
      Unuh all fi get hunting licenses.
      http://www.gov.tt/citizen/service.as...teGameLicence0
      Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else - Vince Lombardi

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      • #4
        I think this is the real problem , the judicary.

        Man gets 20 years for stealing cellphone, $400

        Wednesday, December 17, 2008


        A 21-year-old man with a history of petty robberies will have to spend the next 20 years behind bars despite pleading guilty to robbing two persons last year at gunpoint, a total of $400 and a cellular phone.
        Jermaine Barns, a resident of Kingston, was sentenced to a total of 30 years by Justice Bryan Sykes in the High Court Division of the Gun Court, but was ordered to spend 20 years as two of the three 10-year sentences are to run concurrently.
        Barns was arrested and charged with illegal possession of firearm and two counts of robbery, which occurred some time in January last year along Half-Way-Tree Roa in St Andrew.
        In handing down the sentence two weeks ago, Sykes told the young father that the offences to which he pleaded guilty were serious and that he "treats robbery differently".
        Sykes' sentence is in stark contrast to that of the controversial slap-on-the-wrist million-dollar fine given to Ricardo 'Bully' Thomas last week for pleading guilty to firearms possession in the High Court Division of the Gun Court.
        Thomas, 37, was held on Charlemont Avenue in Barbican, St Andrew on October 18, 2008 with two 9 mm pistols and 49 rounds of 9mm ammunition.
        In addition to his fine, Thomas was placed on three years' probation.
        Police say Thomas is the leader of a gang in Cockburn Pen, a tough community in Kingston 11 where ongoing warfare with a rival area gang has resulted in the murders of approximately 60 persons.
        THERE IS ONLY ONE ONANDI LOWE!

        "Good things come out of the garrisons" after his daughter won the 100m Gold For Jamaica.


        "It therefore is useless and pointless, unless it is for share malice and victimisation to arrest and charge a 92-year-old man for such a simple offence. There is nothing morally wrong with this man smoking a spliff; the only thing wrong is that it is still on the law books," said Chevannes.

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        • #5
          X ... what is the problem with that sentence? Is it too harsh?
          "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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          • #6
            I hve posted about that culture so many times on this forum. It is good to see a public offical coming out and saying it loud.
            • Don't let negative things break you, instead let it be your strength, your reason for growth. Life is for living and I won't spend my life feeling cheated and downtrodden.

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            • #7
              yow... long time mi a talk bout dis pon de forum... it amaze mi how far behind de jamaican leadership deh...

              dis shudda been done acknowledged and a viable solution be presented...

              i've written on this forum with suggestion on how to end this - tougher laws in conjunction with re-education of the populace through mass information saturation...

              there is no doubt that the negative culture has to end...
              'to get what we've never had, we MUST do what we've never done'

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              • #8
                But this was at gun point, X! Dat's di least him shoulda get!

                However, the other gunman dem and gang leaders deserve punishments that fit their crimes. That has not been happening!


                BLACK LIVES MATTER

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                • #9
                  Any gun crime should be 15 years , minimum.
                  "‎It is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men" - Frederick Douglass

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                  • #10
                    So me see it tuh! And that means even just being caught with an illegal gun. Straight prison for a decade and a half!


                    BLACK LIVES MATTER

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mosiah View Post
                      So me see it tuh! And that means even just being caught with an illegal gun. Straight prison for a decade and a half!
                      As much as I think the sentense was a joke, I think people should read this article. If it is true that his information helped investigators, then, we should be glad for the info he gave. Then again, the article claimed he was protected by members of the JCF, so the question is, are they telling the truth about the info he gave.

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                      Taken from the Sunday Herald.

                      Indications are that Ricardo ‘Bully’ Thomas, who was fined $1 million and given a three-year suspended sentence in the Gun Court last week, was the recipient of an unofficial plea bargaining deal in which he co-operated with investigators in smashing a number of major arms smuggling and other criminal activities.

                      The light sentence handed down by Justice Martin Gayle after the accused was found with two 9mm pistols and 49 rounds of ammunition last October, triggered several caustic comments. But police investigators told the Sunday Herald yesterday, that the gang leader provided useful information, which yielded significant results in crime fighting.

                      Thomas, deported twice from Britain, was said to be linked to with the infamous British Link-up Crew and the murderous Bully gang based in Cockburn Pen, a tough, inner-city community in South West St. Andrew.

                      According to investigators, Thomas, who is a strong supporter of the opposition People’s National Party (PNP), is said to be protected by some members of the police force. Due to delays in getting results of tests from the forensic laboratory, two months after the guns which were seized from Thomas were sent for examination, investigators could neither deny nor confirm Sunday Herald reports that one of the guns was linked to several murders.

                      When asked by the Sunday Herald if he was a character witness in the case against Thomas, Assistant Commissioner of Police (ACP) Les Green, said this was not so. ACP Green, however, stated that he gave evidence in court, along with another senior officer, whose name he declined to reveal. It is understood that the evidence from ACP Green had a bearing on the sentence which was handed down to Thomas.

                      In response to a question about his knowledge of Thomas, ACP Green said according to his understanding, Thomas was one of the so-called area leaders of Cockburn Pen, who had considerable influence in the community. He added that Thomas was believed to be involved in an ongoing dispute with certain elements within the area.

                      In terms of his direct dealings with Thomas, ACP Green said he was involved in Thomas’ arrangements to surrender himself to the police after he was placed on the nation’s top 10 most wanted list earlier this year.
                      "Jamaica's future reflects its past, having attained only one per cent annual growth over 30 years whilst neighbours have grown at five per cent." (Article)

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                      • #12
                        the bottom line is being caught with illegal guns and ammunition MUST be punished with a lengthy prison sentence... the information provided in any plea COULD play a role in the sentencing but it should NEVER be factored in WAIVING time served...
                        'to get what we've never had, we MUST do what we've never done'

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                        • #13
                          Exactly!


                          BLACK LIVES MATTER

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Lazie View Post
                            According to investigators, Thomas, who is a strong supporter of the opposition People’s National Party (PNP), is said to be protected by some members of the police force.
                            Makes me wonder what's really going on. Was there really a plea bargain?


                            BLACK LIVES MATTER

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                            • #15
                              If the man start talk, former commissioners and ministers might feel some heat. And if them feel the heat, some big business man going to feel the heat.

                              so the man is well covered.

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